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2010 Polaris Site is up !!
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March 2nd 2009 at 9:10 AM
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mmiller491
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i wanna figure out if anything has changed to the engines! thats the biggest concern of mine. from the looks on the website, not a single thing has changed.
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March 2nd 2009 at 9:32 AM
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Disapointing line up.
Looks like I'm keeping my 07 Dragon a couple more years.
It's like ACG posted above, I don't want to pay 10K plus be a retail tester.
I need to save the money for the house I'm trying to buy any way.
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March 2nd 2009 at 9:38 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
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Quote originally posted by mmiller491
i wanna figure out if anything has changed to the engines! thats the biggest concern of mine. from the looks on the website, not a single thing has changed.
Go to a snow show and try talking to a rep. Not that they always know stuff.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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March 2nd 2009 at 9:43 AM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
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Member Since: February 6th 2009
Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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oh i will be. there usually the only one you can get a straight answer from... asking a retailer, they'll just scratch there head and say "uhhh i dont know". even reps have their own agenda, i just want an honest opinion from someone at polaris as to what the hell are they doing to fix this problem.
i also seen that snowmobile fanatics is on the polaris page.
http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/s...orums.aspx
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March 2nd 2009 at 10:05 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
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12582 Posts
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answer will be......what problem.....
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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March 2nd 2009 at 11:03 AM
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JD
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600 CFI-4 engine is no longer used??
The FST's still get the 750, not the new 850 Weber, apparently.
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March 2nd 2009 at 11:36 AM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
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Member Since: February 6th 2009
Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
answer will be......what problem.....
then ill just say... oh my God polaris cant be that ignorant about the problem. read the forums all over the internet, engines are blowing up after 1000 miles simply because its to much for a small engine to handle. and if you honestly do not see this problem, then your obviously not trying to reach out to the consumers.
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March 2nd 2009 at 11:41 AM
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rsims16
Live By The Edge Of Your Seat
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776 Posts
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Location: Canton, Mass, USA
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It is pretty cool that the rush lineup is totally different then all the other sleds on the market. I as well will wait a year or two so that I am not paying for something that they dont know the flaws of yet. I still am still on the look out for one that is a 07 or 08 for next winter.
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March 2nd 2009 at 6:46 PM
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beyer600fusion
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you ppl that think the rush is way to expensive need to relize that its only a thousand more then the base 600. Its only one hundred dollars more than skidoos top 600. Less than yamaha's nytros and only about 600 more than an f6 sno pro. For what you get with this snowmobile i would say thats a good price when comparing.
1st of all the real weight of the xp is 439.
2nd it is how the engine makes the hp through out the rpm range.
3rd the Dragon 800sp has the Ripsaw track 1.25.
4th ,you have no idea of what you are talking about.
5th get the F-CK out and stop bashing.
6th your Mach z 1000 is a chit box.
I may be a retard, but I'm the smartest one I know.
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March 2nd 2009 at 7:31 PM
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1drsdragon
Junior Member
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397 Posts
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Member Since: September 12th 2005
Location: North East, PA, USA
Current Sled: 2008 Polaris 700 Dragon
2008-2009 Miles: 1445
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Yeah the CFI-4 is no more. That is where they had the problems.
For those who wanted to buy a 600 Dragon and disappointed its gone. Consider that as Polaris doing a favor as if you rode the Rush and the 600 Dragon, you wouldn't want the IQ Chassis...not bashing it since I have a 700 Dragon, but the Pro-Ride is a big step up.
Considering what the others are charging for the 600's, I would think the Rush is in the ball park after doing some searching I noticed that. So I have to retract my earlier post of saying it is somewhat high.
Personally I want something a little bigger than a 600, but for trail riding here in the East, it should have a good market.
I think we will read next winter a few good posts on those who do buy the Rush.
Quote originally posted by JD
600 CFI-4 engine is no longer used??
The FST's still get the 750, not the new 850 Weber, apparently.
Work is for people who don't have hobbies !
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March 2nd 2009 at 9:50 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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Quote originally posted by beyer600fusion
you ppl that think the rush is way to expensive need to relize that its only a thousand more then the base 600. Its only one hundred dollars more than skidoos top 600. Less than yamaha's nytros and only about 600 more than an f6 sno pro. For what you get with this snowmobile i would say thats a good price when comparing.
Quote originally posted by 1drsdragon
Considering what the others are charging for the 600's, I would think the Rush is in the ball park after doing some searching I noticed that. So I have to retract my earlier post of saying it is somewhat high.
Any manufacturer charging 8-10k for a 600 class sled is ridiculous. I reiterate my previous statement, for that kind of money I will build myself a 250+hp rider forward sled the will kick the **** out of anything any manufacturer has to offer. I will never buy a new sled for one reason price, why pay that kind of money for something that the manufacturers are pushing on me that I dont want when I can build the sled I want for the same price?
1200 WC coming soon
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March 2nd 2009 at 10:11 PM
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beyer600fusion
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Quote originally posted by the_hog
Quote originally posted by beyer600fusion
you ppl that think the rush is way to expensive need to relize that its only a thousand more then the base 600. Its only one hundred dollars more than skidoos top 600. Less than yamaha's nytros and only about 600 more than an f6 sno pro. For what you get with this snowmobile i would say thats a good price when comparing.
Quote originally posted by 1drsdragon
Considering what the others are charging for the 600's, I would think the Rush is in the ball park after doing some searching I noticed that. So I have to retract my earlier post of saying it is somewhat high.
Any manufacturer charging 8-10k for a 600 class sled is ridiculous. I reiterate my previous statement, for that kind of money I will build myself a 250+hp rider forward sled the will kick the **** out of anything any manufacturer has to offer. I will never buy a new sled for one reason price, why pay that kind of money for something that the manufacturers are pushing on me that I dont want when I can build the sled I want for the same price?
im not disagreeing that the price is high but im saying that its not high for today's standards. I would much rather buy an older shift model and do the upgrading that i would like to do and like you said would still be cheeper. Thats why most ppl now days dont snowcheck because they know they can get the same sled about one or thousand cheeper in febuary.
1st of all the real weight of the xp is 439.
2nd it is how the engine makes the hp through out the rpm range.
3rd the Dragon 800sp has the Ripsaw track 1.25.
4th ,you have no idea of what you are talking about.
5th get the F-CK out and stop bashing.
6th your Mach z 1000 is a chit box.
I may be a retard, but I'm the smartest one I know.
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March 3rd 2009 at 3:21 AM
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Hutch_XLT
Weekend Warrior
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Location: Lake County, Illinois, USA
Current Sled: 1995 Polaris XLT
2008-2009 Miles: 200
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Some of the new graphics look nice,I do like the this years white dragon better though. On to the more important stuff, no 600 Dragon? and the biggest disappointment for me is them dropping the 600 shift, i felt it was the best value on snow, and it didn't have there buggy CFI. I sure hope they fixed there 800 CFI.
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March 3rd 2009 at 7:18 AM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
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Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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Quote originally posted by Hutch_XLT
Some of the new graphics look nice,I do like the this years white dragon better though. On to the more important stuff, no 600 Dragon? and the biggest disappointment for me is them dropping the 600 shift, i felt it was the best value on snow, and it didn't have there buggy CFI. I sure hope they fixed there 800 CFI.
i HIGHLY doubt they did anything to the 800 CFI. if they had it woulda been all over forums and their website. they need some serious overhauling. youll see the other forum on here about the 700 dragon that blew up, worst than anything anyone has ever seen im pretty sure. the motors in the larger bore just arent reliable and anyone who actually pays attention to the snowmobiles knows this.
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March 3rd 2009 at 11:57 AM
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points
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Member Since: November 30th 2003
Location: Roseville, MN, USA
Current Sled: 2001 Pro-X 440
2008-2009 Miles: 250
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I think many on this forum, and any forum for the matter forget that snowmobile manufacturers are in the business to make money. Where does that money come from? Not from budget rides but from big iron mountain sleds, and high end option sleds. I guarantee that the profit margin is significantly higher on an Assault than it was on a 600 shift, and as such when a company comes upon difficult economic times and needs to cut back, low margin products are the first to go. While most of us are not happy to see that, I think we'll see even more of it in the future as the market dries up for bargain basement new sleds given the economy. And this economy will effect every brand, we may see slightly different responses, but I think days of wide ranging models is over, at least for the forseeable future. I mean we've seen it just in this thread, people saying they are going to take their $6k and buy a year old model and mod it instead of buying a slower shift. So for those that don't think Polaris reads these forums, I would argue that the forums are in some ways responsible for the death of the cheap new sleds.
I like the lineup and I'm excited for the direction the Rush takes polaris. My personal opinion is that an emphasis on suspensions that can be applicable across the entire model line is a much better use of valuable resources than developing a monster motor that few will buy and is only suitable for two models, especially when they have a solid, reliable 600 (which a majority of new sleds of any brand are sold with anyhow). So while the lineup doesn't appeal to everyone, I think its a good direction.
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March 3rd 2009 at 12:09 PM
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i HIGHLY doubt they did anything to the 800 CFI. if they had it woulda been all over forums and their website. they need some serious overhauling. youll see the other forum on here about the 700 dragon that blew up, worst than anything anyone has ever seen im pretty sure. the motors in the larger bore just arent reliable and anyone who actually pays attention to the snowmobiles knows this.
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They might have, but I doubt it as well. All the motor needs is a better piston, two rings forsure. And a better map. With a PC3 you can fix the map, and the motors run a LOT better, a lot longer, but it still doesn't fix the problem created by the single ring piston.
As for the 700. There are problem 700's out there, this one being the worst I have ever seen, that almost ANYONE has ever seen. But the 700 motor is for most part bullet proof. I would not be scared of the 700 CFI.
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March 3rd 2009 at 12:33 PM
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polaris21
Have fun while you can, cuz lifes real!!
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The 600 rmk 144 is the cheapest 600 they sell? Whats up with that? You would think it would be the most expensive 600.
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March 3rd 2009 at 12:39 PM
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beyer600fusion
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328 Posts
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Member Since: November 20th 2007
Location: Morris, MN, USA
Current Sled: 600h.o. fusion
2008-2009 Miles: 1500 miles
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there will be a 600 shift according to dealers on hcs, but i also read it wont be released to after snowcheck
1st of all the real weight of the xp is 439.
2nd it is how the engine makes the hp through out the rpm range.
3rd the Dragon 800sp has the Ripsaw track 1.25.
4th ,you have no idea of what you are talking about.
5th get the F-CK out and stop bashing.
6th your Mach z 1000 is a chit box.
I may be a retard, but I'm the smartest one I know.
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March 3rd 2009 at 7:40 PM
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1drsdragon
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397 Posts
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Member Since: September 12th 2005
Location: North East, PA, USA
Current Sled: 2008 Polaris 700 Dragon
2008-2009 Miles: 1445
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Many will continue to do that...not to jump off topic here, but did you only get in 14 miles this season.. 
If you wait a few years you will find yourself on a Rush
Quote originally posted by the_hog
Quote originally posted by beyer600fusion
you ppl that think the rush is way to expensive need to relize that its only a thousand more then the base 600. Its only one hundred dollars more than skidoos top 600. Less than yamaha's nytros and only about 600 more than an f6 sno pro. For what you get with this snowmobile i would say thats a good price when comparing.
Quote originally posted by 1drsdragon
Considering what the others are charging for the 600's, I would think the Rush is in the ball park after doing some searching I noticed that. So I have to retract my earlier post of saying it is somewhat high.
Any manufacturer charging 8-10k for a 600 class sled is ridiculous. I reiterate my previous statement, for that kind of money I will build myself a 250+hp rider forward sled the will kick the **** out of anything any manufacturer has to offer. I will never buy a new sled for one reason price, why pay that kind of money for something that the manufacturers are pushing on me that I dont want when I can build the sled I want for the same price?
Work is for people who don't have hobbies !
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March 3rd 2009 at 7:55 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
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Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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Yes between no time to ride because of my new job and crappy snow conditions I only got roughly 14 miles on this season.
Sorry to say but you wont find me on a new sled bought or built anytime soon, until this economy turns around, I am saving not spending.
Sorry but you wont find me on a Rush ever, unless someone finds a way to stuff a 250hp triple into one.
1200 WC coming soon
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March 3rd 2009 at 8:42 PM
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firecatF5
SEARCHER and DESTROYER of feilds of white!
firecatF5 finally got a car.
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I can't believe they still have some edges around! I also agree that they may get a few more rush customers if they lower the price. The graphics and color of the Assault look a lot better this year, IMO.
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March 3rd 2009 at 8:54 PM
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1drsdragon
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397 Posts
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Member Since: September 12th 2005
Location: North East, PA, USA
Current Sled: 2008 Polaris 700 Dragon
2008-2009 Miles: 1445
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That sucks, seemed like alot of areas had good snowfall this year, to bad you missed out.
Quote originally posted by the_hog
Yes between no time to ride because of my new job and crappy snow conditions I only got roughly 14 miles on this season.
Sorry to say but you wont find me on a new sled bought or built anytime soon, until this economy turns around, I am saving not spending.
Sorry but you wont find me on a Rush ever, unless someone finds a way to stuff a 250hp triple into one.
If I lived out West, the Assault would be my sled of choice for sure...but the track may not be long enough for deep powder.
Quote originally posted by firecatF5
I can't believe they still have some edges around! I also agree that they may get a few more rush customers if they lower the price. The graphics and color of the Assault look a lot better this year, IMO.
Work is for people who don't have hobbies !
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March 3rd 2009 at 11:09 PM
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Hutch_XLT
Weekend Warrior
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133 Posts
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Member Since: December 15th 2004
Location: Lake County, Illinois, USA
Current Sled: 1995 Polaris XLT
2008-2009 Miles: 200
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Quote originally posted by points
I think many on this forum, and any forum for the matter forget that snowmobile manufacturers are in the business to make money. Where does that money come from? Not from budget rides but from big iron mountain sleds, and high end option sleds. I guarantee that the profit margin is significantly higher on an Assault than it was on a 600 shift, and as such when a company comes upon difficult economic times and needs to cut back, low margin products are the first to go. While most of us are not happy to see that, I think we'll see even more of it in the future as the market dries up for bargain basement new sleds given the economy. And this economy will effect every brand, we may see slightly different responses, but I think days of wide ranging models is over, at least for the forseeable future. I mean we've seen it just in this thread, people saying they are going to take their $6k and buy a year old model and mod it instead of buying a slower shift. So for those that don't think Polaris reads these forums, I would argue that the forums are in some ways responsible for the death of the cheap new sleds.
I like the lineup and I'm excited for the direction the Rush takes polaris. My personal opinion is that an emphasis on suspensions that can be applicable across the entire model line is a much better use of valuable resources than developing a monster motor that few will buy and is only suitable for two models, especially when they have a solid, reliable 600 (which a majority of new sleds of any brand are sold with anyhow). So while the lineup doesn't appeal to everyone, I think its a good direction.
I have not forgotten that the manufacturer is in it to make money but I have also not forgotten that the consumer is looking to save money.
I agree with you that they make more money on a higher end sled than they would make on the shift. I can also tell you that most consumer's are going through the same hard economic times and that is all the more reason to look for a value such as the shift and when Polaris does not offer it any longer that is all the more reason to go check out other brands for a value.
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March 3rd 2009 at 11:31 PM
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Hutch_XLT
Weekend Warrior
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133 Posts
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Quote originally posted by mmiller491 Quote originally posted by Hutch_XLT Some of the new graphics look nice,I do like the this years white dragon better though. On to the more important stuff, no 600 Dragon? and the biggest disappointment for me is them dropping the 600 shift, i felt it was the best value on snow, and it didn't have there buggy CFI. I sure hope they fixed there 800 CFI. i HIGHLY doubt they did anything to the 800 CFI. if they had it woulda been all over forums and their website. they need some serious overhauling. youll see the other forum on here about the 700 dragon that blew up, worst than anything anyone has ever seen im pretty sure. the motors in the larger bore just arent reliable and anyone who actually pays attention to the snowmobiles knows this. I wouldn't doubt that Polaris would fix this problem as the warranty bills and unhappy customers would greatly affect them. And if they don't it will be another 2 year and done motor. Believe me Polaris is aware of the 800 CFI problems, with all the blown up 800 CFI's at the Polaris dealer's for warranty work. I also think this motor needs updated better rings, get the CFI figured out with a new map and it would be a great sled. Lets see how Cat's new 160 hp 800 performs this year.
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March 4th 2009 at 2:46 PM
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Ramskye
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Umm...for 2010 600CFI4 is only available on the IQ touring 600 and the rest of the 600's are CFI2's. also I think the price on the Rush is decent considering I paid $12,949 on my 600RR before freight and taxes. and that new TX decal kit for the 550 shift is really kool.
1992 RXL 650 EFI
1994 Sport 440 fan
1994 XLT 580
1998 XCR 600
2002 XC 600 sp
2004 PRO-XR 440
2007 Trail 550 Deluxe
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