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How Many Miles On Your Small Block Liberty Twin?
- Any rebuilds?
started by JD
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March 3rd 2009 at 10:05 AM
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JD
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3115 Posts 
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Member Since: March 6th 2006
Location: North Dakota, USA
Current Sled: '02 XC 500 SP
2008-2009 Miles: 1625
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I'm wondering what kind of miles other people are getting on their Liberty small blocks, 500 and 600 engines before needing a rebuild or some engine work.
Recently, the mag side main bearing went out on my Liberty 500 VES engine in my '02 XC 500 SP. It only had about 4000 miles on it.
Be sure to post the year and model of the snowmobile, as well as the engine size.
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March 3rd 2009 at 10:23 AM
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Luke68Polaris
Throttle Jockey
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2033 Posts
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Member Since: October 5th 2006
Location: Van Buren, Maine, USA
Current Sled: 05 XC 600
2008-2009 Miles: .3
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3800 on my 05 XC 600 when I sold it, Ran fine. Small block Liberty engines are one of the most reliable pull and go ever, Ive only seen a few with engine trouble other than the occasional ring/piston failure.
2000 Polaris 700 45th Anniversary Edition 11.5K Dads
2005 Polaris XC 600 50th Anniversary #89 of 1000. 3.1K Mine
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March 3rd 2009 at 10:38 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated Over 4 hours ago
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12581 Posts
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Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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I have 7000 miles on a 1997 xcr 440. It had a new jug, 1 piston and rings put in it around 3000 mile mark. But still on the original crank and bearing.
My buddy lost his crank on his 99' xc 500 last year but he is hard on stuff.
Can any of this be oil issues???
My brother has a bone stock 01' 600 x with like 7,200 miles. He uses polaris blue and now citgo S&S.
My mom has a 02' 600 x with 4,000 miles using blue.
I know you asked about small blocks but,
My dad just picked up a 02' xc 700(bigblock) with 3,000 miles. Guy before ran ves, dad switched over to blue.
I have a 03' pro x 700(bigblock) that has 6,500 miles. It got a new crank around the 2,000 mile mark. I have used all sorts of oils.
Does the mag side have an oiler on it??? I know the pto does.
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2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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March 3rd 2009 at 11:44 AM
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Polaris650rxl
Average Member
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641 Posts 
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Member Since: February 16th 2009
Location: Little Lake, MI, USA
Current Sled: 02 XCSP 600
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Can anyone tell me about a 02 xc600 im possibly picking one up this weekend it has 5400 miles on it what can i expect around that mileage?
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March 3rd 2009 at 11:48 AM
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07iq
Starting Member
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2 Posts
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Member Since: January 8th 2009
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my 01 600 has 11,000 miles on it my dealer says he has guys with 14,000 on and stil run strong
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March 3rd 2009 at 11:51 AM
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Polaris650rxl
Average Member
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641 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 16th 2009
Location: Little Lake, MI, USA
Current Sled: 02 XCSP 600
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Quote originally posted by 07iq
my 01 600 has 11,000 miles on it my dealer says he has guys with 14,000 on and stil run strong
Thats very good to hear:)
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March 3rd 2009 at 11:53 AM
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ridingthe600edge
sleds are all polished up and waiting for snow!!!
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566 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 12th 2008
Location: Lowell, In
Current Sled: 2001 600 edge/2009 600 IQ
2008-2009 Miles: 1200 done
2009-2010 Miles: 2=yard!
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i have 4004 miles on my 2001 600 edge x and knock on wood no engines problems yet!!!
2001 600 edge X almond spring on primary with 60gm wieghts, s&s rumble pack, gutted air box 6" woodys doolys carbides,196 woodys 1 1/4" studs
2009 600 IQ shift all stock still a virgin!! not for much longer
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March 3rd 2009 at 1:29 PM
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boody1981
Junior Member
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424 Posts 
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Member Since: February 6th 2006
Location: The Pas, MB, Canada
Current Sled: 00' XCR 800
2008-2009 Miles: 0 inKuwait
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2002 600 VES Classic, 14,000 miles and she blew last weekend. Not too bad.
1995 Indy lite
1996 Indy super sport
1997 Indy 500
1998 Indy 500
1999 Yamaha SRX 600
2000 Polaris XCR 800
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March 3rd 2009 at 2:13 PM
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OhioPolarisKid
Advanced Member
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1155 Posts 
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Member Since: January 22nd 2008
Location: Farmersville, Ohio, USA
Current Sled: 1999 Indy 500 XC SP
2008-2009 Miles: 1340
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1999 700 non ves has 9300 or so miles, never been touched. Still pulls like a freight train and sounds like a racer. Almost 7k on my 500, and weve never had to do any work on the motor. Two of the best sleds ever built i think.
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March 3rd 2009 at 2:24 PM
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shreddy
Junior Member
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155 Posts
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Member Since: November 21st 2004
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: 05 600 XCSP
2008-2009 Miles: 240
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05 600 ves edge, 4300 miles. Clutch side runns a lot leaner than the mag side, going to rebuild this summer.
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March 3rd 2009 at 2:55 PM
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JD
Senior Member
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3115 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 6th 2006
Location: North Dakota, USA
Current Sled: '02 XC 500 SP
2008-2009 Miles: 1625
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Good replies so far. I want to hear the bad along with the good.
Quote originally posted by xcr440
Does the mag side have an oiler on it??? I know the pto does.
I don't think so. I think it's just the gas/oil mixture that lubes that bearing. Can somebody else verify this?
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March 3rd 2009 at 2:57 PM
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polaris91
117 racing
polaris91 ugh.
Updated Tuesday at 8:30 PM
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3647 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 9th 2006
Location: bridgeport, new york, USA
Current Sled: 1991 indymod/2005 xcsp600
2008-2009 Miles: 2900
2009-2010 Miles: grass!?
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my 05 xc600 has 5700 miles on it and still runs strong
1990 indy trail bored.20over, ported and polished, cluched and geared, chaincase/brakes/jackshaft from 93 xlt, headlight cover, teather, some custom painting, black skid plate, blue running board trim, fox shocks, blue/gray powermadd handguards, 2 in powermadd riser, fly bars/barpad,blue leds(underglow),1 in lug track, teather mount from a 96xcr440,blue guage bulbs, blue c&as, xtra 10 rear, and edge seat and tank.
2005 xcsp 600,chrome windy,stripped decals,3.5 inch rox riser,white powermadd handguards,white c&a ultra 3 skis 6in shapers,camoplast cobra,slp can,fly bars/barpad,xeon headlight bulbs,rsi barhooks,odi grips,light blue clutch spring,slp vents,black headlight cover,billet wheels,rydefx clicker,
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March 3rd 2009 at 5:05 PM
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Xx08BRAAAPPP22xX
Loving the pro-x!!!
Xx08BRAAAPPP22xX nights are getting nice and cold but now it's got to stay like that through out the whole day on into December!
Updated Tuesday at 4:59 PM
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6669 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 20th 2005
Location: Taberg, New York, USA
Current Sled: 04 Pro-X 600
2008-2009 Miles: 1,960
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4,800 miles and still running strong!
Polaris Pro-X=Sledgehammer, and every bit as tough as one!
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"There might be a foot of ice but there is 400ft of water, let me take my helmet off so I can swim." -ACM
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March 3rd 2009 at 10:11 PM
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tt350chevelle
Starting Member
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38 Posts
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Member Since: March 16th 2004
Current Sled: 2006 Fusion HO
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Just sold my 04 XC 600 SP, 7600 miles, only item replaced was the reeds. (replaced with Boysen) Shell Ulta synthetic oil for the past 5500 miles, excellent power, just as fast or faster that my 06 Fusion HO.
Brad
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March 4th 2009 at 1:04 PM
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Frosty
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Location: Michigan, USA
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I just turned 12,200 miles on a 03 pro-x 600. Never had engine apart still pumping 130 psi on both cylinders. Still starts on first pull down to 0 degrees.
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March 4th 2009 at 3:15 PM
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myvertxcape
Bring It, Don't Sing It!
myvertxcape flu sucks azz.
Updated Thursday at 8:00 PM
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2640 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: July 10th 2005
Location: Kotlik, AK, USA
Current Sled: '07/8 600RMK 144's
2008-2009 Miles: 6200
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Well over 12k on my mom's '01 600xcsp and just changed the crank and pistons this season as well as '04 cylinders that I had on hand.
Put on over 5k miles on my '08 600RMK 144" and blew a piston, almost the other one, scratched a cylinder and ruined the head. Crank is good however, waiting for my parts in the mail, should be up and running by this weekend and ready for the rest of the season. Still have 2 more years of warranty if anything happens to it it will be covered.
My used '07 600RMK 144" is running good and strong yet at 1400+. Hope it keeps it up all season and into next, I'll be happy.
Run good oil and clean gas and it will run good for a long time. Change your primary and secondary springs every 4k miles at a minimum. At least new bushings on the clutch weights if you know how to change them without damaging them. A good balanced clutch helps in the longevity of any engine, bigger bores are more crucial to this.
'08 600RMK 144" 6565 miles
SLP single pipe/can, intake kit, footwell vents, Clutching
my own shockwell intake vent, VMI rack, backrest
'07 600RMK 144" 2725 miles
SLP can, VMI rack! Footwell vents
RAW chassis tunnel bag for sale, fits RMK's and Switchbacks. $80 new, $60 shipped within US(looks like new) http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/forum/...splay.aspx
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March 4th 2009 at 10:16 PM
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Mr.Dummie
Junior Member
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328 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 1st 2007
Location: Pinehouse Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Current Sled: 2007 600 HO Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 548.4
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07 600 Switchback(Carb) 5091km Running Good, I even sunk it in some water at around 2000km and it's still going strong.
3" Bar Riser
Sno Stuff Traction Strips
PowerMadd * Series Handgaurds w/Extensions
SLP 2 1/2" Flo Rites x4
SLP Air Horn Kit
SLP Single Pipe
Sno Stuff Rumble Pack
EPI Clutch Kit
VForce 3 Reeds
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March 5th 2009 at 12:29 AM
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MN_iq_600
drift bustin' ditch banger
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151 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: August 20th 2007
Location: McIntosh, minnesota, USA
Current Sled: 06 iqr 600
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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06 600 h.o. 1300 miles lean burned clutch side. cam with 420 mains and went down to 370 mains i think and she didnt last long. also noted some cattails pluged the jet that faces into the airbox, not sure what jet that is. but thats the side that went.
MN_iq_600
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March 5th 2009 at 6:18 AM
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KRSS144
Average Member
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782 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: July 31st 2007
Location: SPARTA, MI
Current Sled: 2000 XC 600 SP -its stock
2008-2009 Miles: 850
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2000 600 VES just shy of 7000miles no problems and still running strong.
QUOTE(JeremyZ3 @ Jan 27 2009, 04:38 PM)
F*** YOU ATLEAST I AINT A JEWISH XC JUNK OWNING ASS F***ER
Goodwin Performance clutch kit,Boysen Reeds,1" Track,192 Stud Boys studs,Extra idler wheels,Thunder Products-extra air vents,SLP boost bottle,SLP Airhorn,Walker Evan rear Piggy Back shock,2 SLP Flow Right Intake,Rumble Pack can,PowerMadd 3" pivot riser w/6" riser block,custom made straight bar,PowerMadd handguards,PowerMadd SS extended throttle cable,RSI hand grips and SS brake line,hood vents yellow,Custom seat
04 SXVenom (Little ladies)
99 Banshee
Red Frame,.40 over Vitos Super Stock Piston Kit,Vitos Needles,
T5 pipes/silencers,Tusk nerf bars,K&N Air Filter,22" ITP Mud Lites
14/41 Gearing
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March 5th 2009 at 10:23 AM
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500fasEnuf
Moderator
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2758 Posts 
Group: Moderators
Member Since: May 13th 2002
Location: Regina, SK, Canada
Current Sled: 2008 Dragon S.B. 600
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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I have 6500 on my '99 500 XC.
2008 Polaris 600 Dragon SB, 1.5" Camoplast Intense track, EPI Clutch Kit.
1999 Polaris 500 XC, 1.25" track, EPI Clutch Kit.
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March 5th 2009 at 2:09 PM
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cboo62
Starting Member
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23 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: October 22nd 2003
Location: charlotte, michigan, USA
Current Sled: xc500sp/01prox600
2008-2009 Miles: 875
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7500 on my 99 500xcsp i just reringed it still going at 8763
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March 5th 2009 at 4:02 PM
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JDS
New Member
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83 Posts 
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Member Since: January 13th 2007
Location: Bismarck, ND, USA
2008-2009 Miles: 944
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Son's 500 xcsp has around 6000, no problems with engine. Had to change out primary once.
JD
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2001 ZR500
2003 Polaris RMK
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March 5th 2009 at 7:14 PM
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2001xcsp500
Shake'n'Bake
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299 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: September 15th 2008
Location: Elora, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 2001 polaris 500xcsp
2008-2009 Miles: 1456
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i believe now i have 6200 miles on my 01 xcsp500 and no rebuilds.And she still pulls hard from my experience i think these motors are great.
2001 xcsp500
3" powermadd riser
Powermadd hand gaurds
RSR Skid plate
Yellow light sheild
Aftermarket clutch kit
V-force reeds
You can't have two number 1's that makes 11!
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March 7th 2009 at 8:10 AM
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Bensen
Starting Member
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4 Posts
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Current Sled: 09 switchback
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4500 miles 04 700 5200 miles 01 600 never touched
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March 7th 2009 at 8:26 AM
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gordonchaine
Lost never to be found.
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1803 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 5th 2008
Location: Wilmington, Vermont, USA
Current Sled: 2007 polaris edge xc
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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2002 Polaris "X" edge 600, 5400 miles had nos no rebuilds but was bored to 660 at about 3500 miles but the bottom was never touched.
 Nice pic of 2002 edge.  Bars on 2002 bars.
What's your problem? RUFWM?
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