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Need Help with 92 formula
started by 670eddie
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April 6th 2009 at 1:11 AM
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670eddie
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Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: Sioux lookout, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: Mach 1 670
2008-2009 Miles: 160
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well im not sure whats going on with it. the sled is a 92 formula 583 and its very hard to start we have to pull the crap out of it well holding the throttle and it doesn't idle. he said he cleaned the carbs. when we do pull it over we keep changing the plugs around. its Got spark and its getting gas. when we pull the plugs out they are wet but not soaking wet. they are semi black but Not oil soaked. when we pull it over with the plugs out its not shooting out gas like its flooded to hell but we do see smoke from the cylinders. it fouls plugs and sometimes runs on 1 side. its got a new top end and new coils. it has lots of spark as well. also it seems to bog when warmed up or when running in warm temps. Im thinking its a fuel problem. what should i Look for?
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April 6th 2009 at 1:21 AM
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Polaris650rxl
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Check compression. Also check to make sure you got the wires running to the right cylinder. Sounds like a timing issue and you said it has a new coil so thats why im thinking you poss got the wires switched around.
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April 6th 2009 at 6:16 PM
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670eddie
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1233 Posts
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Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: Sioux lookout, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: Mach 1 670
2008-2009 Miles: 160
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we dont have a compression tester but it feels like its got alot. we tryed switching the plug wires And still Got no where
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April 6th 2009 at 9:27 PM
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tdgbigfoot
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SAme problem with my 91. Possibly the fuel filter or pump, or it could be kinks in the hose lines. Also, if pistons or cylinders are scared, could explain it.
Mine, when i lift the track up, it runs perfect.
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April 7th 2009 at 9:07 AM
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snoeproe
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Just cause your guy said he cleaned the carbs don't mean much. When was that? did he ensure the pilot jets were clear? Are the carbs air screws set correctly. If it won't idle, I suspect the carbs were not set up properly after they were cleaned or disassembled. The idle was definitely not set on them and I also suspect they were not synced with each other.
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April 7th 2009 at 3:15 PM
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670eddie
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Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: Sioux lookout, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: Mach 1 670
2008-2009 Miles: 160
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they where cleaned last month and it wasent ridden much. i just went out to see it and it got a steady drip of fuel leaking Out from under the carbs/motor area. could it be the fuel pumps? I dont think the lines are Cracks. and Also the 2 fuel shutoff's Are note even hooked up. the line Is going from the tank to the 2 pumps to the carbs.
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April 8th 2009 at 5:15 PM
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670eddie
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1233 Posts
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Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: Sioux lookout, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: Mach 1 670
2008-2009 Miles: 160
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try d starting it today and gas is pouring out of the 2 into 1 pipe
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April 9th 2009 at 3:05 PM
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slednut55
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April 16th 2009 at 7:33 PM
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670eddie
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1233 Posts
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Location: Sioux lookout, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: Mach 1 670
2008-2009 Miles: 160
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Quote originally posted by 670eddie
try d starting it today and gas is pouring out of the 2 into 1 pipe
i think its a dirt MAG side carb. i cant get the pin out to remove the needle and seat
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April 18th 2009 at 7:33 AM
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snoeproe
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Yup, your inlet needle/seat is not closing properly and flooding the motor with fuel.
2006 Skidoo GTX 500ss
1983 Skidoo Blizzard 9700
1982 Skidoo Blizzard 9500
1981 Skidoo Blizzard 9500
1980 Motoski Supersonic
1978 Polaris TXL 340 (2)
(2) 1977 Yamaha SRX 440's
1977 Arctic Kitty Cat
1975 Yamaha GPX 433
1971 Arctic Panther 399
1969 Skidoo Alpine
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April 18th 2009 at 2:57 PM
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670eddie
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1233 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: Sioux lookout, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: Mach 1 670
2008-2009 Miles: 160
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got the pin out and and cleand all the gummy dirt from the carb. still it floods out
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April 22nd 2009 at 4:54 PM
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670eddie
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1233 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: Sioux lookout, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: Mach 1 670
2008-2009 Miles: 160
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April 22nd 2009 at 9:13 PM
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slednut55
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685 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 6th 2007
Location: Emerald, WI, USA
Current Sled: 96' mxz, 91' mach 1 xtc
2008-2009 Miles: 2300
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April 23rd 2009 at 10:37 AM
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4OURMULA-Z
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Quote originally posted by Polaris650rxl
Check compression. Also check to make sure you got the wires running to the right cylinder. Sounds like a timing issue and you said it has a new coil so thats why im thinking you poss got the wires switched around.
the sled has a dual lead coil (waste spark) ignition system that fires both cylinders simultaneously twice per revolution
If you shoot the messenger there will be one to deal with when the charge comes.
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April 25th 2009 at 2:22 AM
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670eddie
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1233 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: Sioux lookout, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: Mach 1 670
2008-2009 Miles: 160
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i snyc'd the carbs and cleaned them up good and set the air Screw to stock
I think the values in the pumps are prob no good. gonna get rebuild kits
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