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help big time
- my car
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April 7th 2009 at 9:38 PM
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hardmikke6996
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170 Posts 
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Member Since: January 29th 2009
Location: sherburn, mn
Current Sled: 94 polaris 580 xlt sp
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ok i got a 94 grand prix gtp and the motor took a ****, well i ant got the 1,500 to buy a new motor so i am rebuilding it.
question is i need to find a rebuildes guide for the motor.
i cant find one anywheres plz help
thanks mike
get up boy cause u catching one in the FACE
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April 7th 2009 at 10:43 PM
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jmeyer1988
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jmeyer1988 saw nothing again.
Updated Tuesday at 7:53 PM
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Current Sled: 1994 Polaris 440 Indy
2008-2009 Miles: 1050
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okay, first off what blew on it. the head gasket or a main bearing or wat? also trying going to a autozone or advanced auto and they should have a book in there for you.
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April 7th 2009 at 10:52 PM
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killerbee52j
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The first step is to get a shop manuel. Then once the engine is pulled and you take te heads off, check the valves and stuff and see if there to specs.Then once thats done ill give more info.
"ride it like you stole it"
"the 6 pack is under the keg"
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April 8th 2009 at 7:53 AM
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arcticcatmatt
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arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home!
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2008-2009 Miles: 450
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Depending what blew on it, your best bet for your wallet is going to the junkyard for a used motor.
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April 8th 2009 at 8:20 AM
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hardmikke6996
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170 Posts
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Location: sherburn, mn
Current Sled: 94 polaris 580 xlt sp
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good luck with the junkyard nobody has a 3.4 for a grand prix it all 3.1s and i think its a main the heads are coming of today.
I have looked allover to find a gtp motor the closest one is non ebay and its 750 just for the motor but its brand new and the price dont include shipping.
get up boy cause u catching one in the FACE
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April 8th 2009 at 8:23 AM
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snopro879
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I agree with arcticcatmatt, rebuilding an engine is unheard of these days. Any idea what happened? I know head gaskets are a common problem on the GM v6's, have you been mixing coolant with oil for a while? That's what happened to my friends monte carlo and ended up taking out a main bearing. If it's just something like a head gasket then yea, go for a rebuild. But, if you threw any kind of bearing it would be alot easier and probably cheaper to just put a new (used junkyard or something) engine in the car. Good luck, sorry for your loss.
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April 8th 2009 at 8:39 AM
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i thought the gtp had a 3.8 liter or the 3800 motors in them?
oops i looked it up the later models were the 3800's
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April 8th 2009 at 8:41 AM
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hardmikke6996
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ya i know its not the head gasket.
i am willing to rebuild cause nobody is rebuilding there cars anymore there ether scraping them or taking them to a shop, oil runs though my blood so i am going to fix it myself dont get me wrong i know shops are good well most of them but i dont really trust them ether when i first got the car i had to replace the oil O ring and some power steering lines and it cost me just a little under 800 for three parts that cost under 40 buck.
get up boy cause u catching one in the FACE
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April 8th 2009 at 8:44 AM
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dtmmil
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Hey, I have had to replace those power steering parts before, not worth that much at a shop, but they are a real pain!!! What about finding a different motor to swap in? May be the cheapest way, may not though.
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April 8th 2009 at 8:48 AM
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hardmikke6996
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Quote originally posted by dtmmil
Hey, I have had to replace those power steering parts before, not worth that much at a shop, but they are a real pain!!! What about finding a different motor to swap in? May be the cheapest way, may not though.
ya i thought about the supercharged 3.8 but those thing a mad $$$$
get up boy cause u catching one in the FACE
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April 8th 2009 at 8:56 AM
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bushwacker
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I have a good 3.4 Engine, but its out of a 2002 Olds Alero. I don't think it will fit. I would go with s used engine, check ebay.
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April 8th 2009 at 8:58 AM
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Jenkins
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Before you go too far, check to see if the head is cracked - these motors were famous for it.
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April 8th 2009 at 8:59 AM
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hardmikke6996
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Quote originally posted by bushwacker
I have a good 3.4 Engine, but its out of a 2002 Olds Alero. I don't think it will fit. I would go with s used engine, check ebay.
ya i have and the prices arnt to bad but its the shipping that hurts
get up boy cause u catching one in the FACE
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April 8th 2009 at 12:52 PM
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XLT96rider
Other sports play once a week, but this sport is with us every day.
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Quote originally posted by hardmikke6996
good luck with the junkyard nobody has a 3.4 for a grand prix it all 3.1s and i think its a main the heads are coming of today.
I have looked allover to find a gtp motor the closest one is non ebay and its 750 just for the motor but its brand new and the price dont include shipping.
Where is the motor located? Maybe we could help ya out with transporting. I'm sure most of us have trucks.
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April 10th 2009 at 12:14 AM
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SnowMan110
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www.car-parts.comI found quite a few engines on there in mn
Epic.
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April 11th 2009 at 9:47 PM
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hardmikke6996
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Quote originally posted by Jenkins
Before you go too far, check to see if the head is cracked - these motors were famous for it.
its not the heads think its the mains
get up boy cause u catching one in the FACE
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April 12th 2009 at 8:28 PM
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xcindy500
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Those engine were famous for the mains failing too. I had the 3.4 in my lumina z34. Went like crazy though. Their is a guy around here who has a couple, i could find out but you live fairly far away.
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April 12th 2009 at 10:11 PM
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gordonchaine
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Take every thing to a machine shop and have in machined and balanced. If you just take it apart and through some new parts in it, it'll just blow again. Talk to a machine shop first deff.
What's your problem? RUFWM?
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April 12th 2009 at 11:33 PM
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Parasitic_Whim
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$5 says you broke the timing belt and put a valve through a piston. Those engines were so prone to problems it's pathetic. IMO, it's not even worth trying to replace it, because it will probably do it again. When I bought my Grand Prix, I made sure I had the 3.1 just so I didn't have to worry about that.
"you kept trying to make scrambled eggs with 3 hardboiled ones."
"Just wondering why in an apartment full of stoners there is half a waffle in the TRASH CAN. get ur s**t together man"
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April 13th 2009 at 12:04 AM
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gordonchaine
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Quote originally posted by Parasitic_Whim
$5 says you broke the timing belt and put a valve through a piston. Those engines were so prone to problems it's pathetic. IMO, it's not even worth trying to replace it, because it will probably do it again. When I bought my Grand Prix, I made sure I had the 3.1 just so I didn't have to worry about that.
More likely belt a valve. If that's the case, Send the heads to a shop or get a different set. Not to big a deal. (time in right though  )
What's your problem? RUFWM?
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April 14th 2009 at 6:51 PM
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Parasitic_Whim
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Quote originally posted by gordonchaine More likely belt a valve. If that's the case, Send the heads to a shop or get a different set. Not to big a deal. (time in right though )
Either way, not a fun or cheap repair.
There is a reason you don't find any 3.4s in junk yards, they're all broken. You find so many 3.1s because they were all very reliable engines.
"you kept trying to make scrambled eggs with 3 hardboiled ones."
"Just wondering why in an apartment full of stoners there is half a waffle in the TRASH CAN. get ur s**t together man"
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April 14th 2009 at 7:17 PM
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Quinlan
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Quote originally posted by Parasitic_Whim
You find so many 3.1s because they were all very reliable engines.
Aside from intake/head gaskets going out...
2006 Arctic Cat SnoPro 440/700 EFI
1998 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI Custom
1996 Ski-Doo FormulaIII 600
A mountain lion roaming the prairie found a bull, killed it and ate the entire bull. With a heavy belly, unable to walk, the lion laid in the tall grass moaning and roaring. Soon a hunter, attracted by the roaring, shot and killed the lion.
Moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut!
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April 14th 2009 at 9:13 PM
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hardmikke6996
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Quote originally posted by Parasitic_Whim
$5 says you broke the timing belt and put a valve through a piston. Those engines were so prone to problems it's pathetic. IMO, it's not even worth trying to replace it, because it will probably do it again. When I bought my Grand Prix, I made sure I had the 3.1 just so I didn't have to worry about that.
well noth the case so u owe me five bucks lol
im almost 100% sure its the mains and i would never put a 3.1 in her you know how many 3.2 i have stomped a mud hole in .
get up boy cause u catching one in the FACE
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