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they are taking our guns!?
started by arcticcatmatt
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May 11th 2009 at 5:58 PM
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bushwacker
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Yeh, I've been planning on joining for months now. The free year membership was enough for me to join. I believe this type of legislation is going to stir the sleeping majority in this country. This may be just what we need to get everyone united to fight for our rights. I wouldn't be surprised if NRA's membership Quadruples this year.
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May 11th 2009 at 10:09 PM
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Polaristhewayout
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Quote originally posted by v-maxsledder
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson-
Their not taking my guns.
lol the first time i read that i thought it said, a tranny in the street. But seriously why would they take our guns when thats all we do on weekends here is hunt.
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May 12th 2009 at 9:55 PM
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Something is in the air, I went to fleet farm today to get some .22 ammo for my gf's daughter, and with the exception of some .22 cal short, the shelves were bare, someone in this country is buying a sh*tpile of ammo and stockpiling it!!
General in the Anti-Catsdouche06 army, saving the world from stupidity and inbreeding!
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May 12th 2009 at 10:09 PM
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Quinlan
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Quinlan is a little disappointed that he received HMK Highmark 4 boots instead of the Highmark Pros as he had anticipated...
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^ That's everywhere that sells ammo here. Fleet Farm, Scheels, Gander Mountain, etc....all out of ammo. Not cool.
2006 Arctic Cat SnoPro 440/700 EFI
1998 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI Custom
1996 Ski-Doo FormulaIII 600
A mountain lion roaming the prairie found a bull, killed it and ate the entire bull. With a heavy belly, unable to walk, the lion laid in the tall grass moaning and roaring. Soon a hunter, attracted by the roaring, shot and killed the lion.
Moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut!
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May 12th 2009 at 10:32 PM
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bobp53916
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Been that way for quite a while...
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May 13th 2009 at 8:36 AM
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duece
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If you voted for obonehead shame on you he has been an antigunner all along, democracts are the wrong choice if gun ownership is important to you .
gerald j sullivan
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May 13th 2009 at 8:51 AM
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Quote originally posted by ultrastud
someone in this country is buying a sh*tpile of ammo and stockpiling it!!
It's me.
I'm actually down to a few thousand rounds and down to about 8 or 9 pounds of powder.
Getting low....
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May 13th 2009 at 9:45 AM
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^^^ a few thousand rounds would only hold off a goberment attack for a couple hours LOL ^^^
General in the Anti-Catsdouche06 army, saving the world from stupidity and inbreeding!
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May 13th 2009 at 10:32 AM
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duece
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buy the surplus crates from the old soviet bloc countrys its dirt cheap and is sealed in big sardine cans and can be buried underground "Iam not paranoid i just do what the voices in my head tell me to" 
gerald j sullivan
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May 13th 2009 at 12:11 PM
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picman
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Quote originally posted by duece
buy the surplus crates from the old soviet bloc countrys its dirt cheap and is sealed in big sardine cans and can be buried underground "Iam not paranoid i just do what the voices in my head tell me to"
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean that they are NOT out to get you!! 
Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it
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May 14th 2009 at 7:12 AM
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mmiller491
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Quote originally posted by Student Driver
Quote originally posted by ultrastud
someone in this country is buying a sh*tpile of ammo and stockpiling it!!
It's me.
I'm actually down to a few thousand rounds and down to about 8 or 9 pounds of powder.
Getting low....
careful saying that.... might be put on the suspected terrorist list by homeland security saying stuff like that. nowadays, its just better to keep our mouths shut as americans.
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May 14th 2009 at 9:16 AM
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tomjac
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I stopped in Dunhams and Gander Mountain in town last night and they both had a good stock of ammo. I had always believed in hollow points for the handguns but after seeing and discussing personal protection ammo I am going to buy a couple of boxes this weekend.
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
Coldwater, MI
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May 14th 2009 at 9:27 AM
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tdgbigfoot
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I don't even use guns all that much at all, but i too will not let them take my right to protect myself away, in any circumstances.
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May 14th 2009 at 9:34 AM
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ZLZEBUB
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Quote originally posted by mmiller491
Quote originally posted by Student Driver
Quote originally posted by ultrastud
someone in this country is buying a sh*tpile of ammo and stockpiling it!!
It's me.
I'm actually down to a few thousand rounds and down to about 8 or 9 pounds of powder.
Getting low....
careful saying that.... might be put on the suspected terrorist list by homeland security saying stuff like that. nowadays, its just better to keep our mouths shut as americans.
thats no ****.....i been warning the dudes on FS and HCS about this very thing and noone listens......look at what they do when ya install a harmless program LIKE WEATHER BUG.....unbeknowingst to everyone....its accesses NORAD....so the gov wants to see who and why everytime you look at the radar patterns....one of ya's outta go try to warn em also on those sites as they think i don't know what i'm talking about....AHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA....but they clueless......looky heah
http://www.onlinepot.org/security/weathe...bugspy.htm
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May 14th 2009 at 9:49 AM
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bobp53916
Looking for Sno Pro motor mounts
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Quote originally posted by ZLZEBUB
Quote originally posted by mmiller491
Quote originally posted by Student Driver
Quote originally posted by ultrastud
someone in this country is buying a sh*tpile of ammo and stockpiling it!!
It's me.
I'm actually down to a few thousand rounds and down to about 8 or 9 pounds of powder.
Getting low....
careful saying that.... might be put on the suspected terrorist list by homeland security saying stuff like that. nowadays, its just better to keep our mouths shut as americans.
thats no ****.....i been warning the dudes on FS and HCS about this very thing and noone listens......look at what they do when ya install a harmless program LIKE WEATHER BUG.....unbeknowingst to everyone....its accesses NORAD....so the gov wants to see who and why everytime you look at the radar patterns....one of ya's outta go try to warn em also on those sites as they think i don't know what i'm talking about....AHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA....but they clueless......looky heah
http://www.onlinepot.org/security/weathe...bugspy.htm
That pisses me off, I uninstalled Weatherbug as soon as I read that article.
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May 14th 2009 at 12:07 PM
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ZLZEBUB
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you would not believe the amount of people who thinks thats a good program just because WGN 9 and others say so....plus....i was responding to this statement as well....they tell me i'm crazy and its not so....SHORTSTOP20 you out there? go earn a feather at FS and post it up...at least there will be 2 of us saying the same thing
I'm actually down to a few thousand rounds and down to about 8 or 9 pounds of powder.
Getting low....
careful saying that.... might be put on the suspected terrorist list by homeland security saying stuff like that.
few thousand rounds .....8 or 9 pounds of powder....
too late....done deal
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May 14th 2009 at 12:17 PM
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picman
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picman is off to bag his buck. I hope. Skunked so far.
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Quote originally posted by tomjac
I stopped in Dunhams and Gander Mountain in town last night and they both had a good stock of ammo. I had always believed in hollow points for the handguns but after seeing and discussing personal protection ammo I am going to buy a couple of boxes this weekend.
I would not use hollow points for anything other than plinking. The were designed to not go thru your (human) target. Personally, if I have to shot someone, I want my round to go completely thru. That way if the sum b**ch has the snot to get up and run, there will be a good blood trail to find him!!
Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it
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May 14th 2009 at 12:45 PM
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tomjac
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Quote originally posted by picman
Quote originally posted by tomjac
I stopped in Dunhams and Gander Mountain in town last night and they both had a good stock of ammo. I had always believed in hollow points for the handguns but after seeing and discussing personal protection ammo I am going to buy a couple of boxes this weekend.
I would not use hollow points for anything other than plinking. The were designed to not go thru your (human) target. Personally, if I have to shot someone, I want my round to go completely thru. That way if the sum b**ch has the snot to get up and run, there will be a good blood trail to find him!!
A FMJ round may not be the best idea from a liability perspective, you don't want the round to go through the perp as it could pass through a wall and/or ricochet into an uninvolved party. I always thought the hollow point was a good idea as it did not pass through. Again, from a liability perspective it could be considered overkill. I will likely go with gold dots as that is what my local police department uses. An attorney would have a hard time arguing overkill if you shot the same round that the police would have, had they been there.
Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
Coldwater, MI
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May 14th 2009 at 1:24 PM
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MACHZRider
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I will put nothing other than a hollow point in my gun for self defense. If I need to use it, I would rather do more damage with the HP rather than something just "passing" through and giving them the chance of running. I guarantee that you will find a nice blood trail behind a hollow-point, that's if you are terrible shot. If I need to shoot, that bastard will be found where I shot him because he ain't running nowhere!
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May 14th 2009 at 1:39 PM
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arcticcatmatt
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In regards to ammo shortage -
The only thing I have read online was that a company that makes the primers had some malfunction or something and was down for awhile so certain ammo didn't have its orders filled.
Most ammo is in full stock out here.
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May 14th 2009 at 1:57 PM
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the federal cartridge plant out here just hired 100 more workers. their must be a serious demand for ammunition.
right
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May 14th 2009 at 2:32 PM
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Quote originally posted by ZLZEBUB
few thousand rounds .....8 or 9 pounds of powder....
too late....done deal
It's OK,
we re-load our own for competition shooting.
My stuff is legal and registered etc.
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May 14th 2009 at 3:57 PM
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ZLZEBUB
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Quote originally posted by Student Driver
Quote originally posted by ZLZEBUB
few thousand rounds .....8 or 9 pounds of powder....
too late....done deal
It's OK,
we re-load our own for competition shooting.
My stuff is legal and registered etc.
sweet....but now you know of THE KEY WORD LIST AT HOMELAND if you were not aware of it.....typeing it a 1000 times is not good either.....just sayin'
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May 15th 2009 at 12:37 PM
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picman
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Quote originally posted by tomjac
Quote originally posted by picman
Quote originally posted by tomjac
I stopped in Dunhams and Gander Mountain in town last night and they both had a good stock of ammo. I had always believed in hollow points for the handguns but after seeing and discussing personal protection ammo I am going to buy a couple of boxes this weekend.
I would not use hollow points for anything other than plinking. The were designed to not go thru your (human) target. Personally, if I have to shot someone, I want my round to go completely thru. That way if the sum b**ch has the snot to get up and run, there will be a good blood trail to find him!!
A FMJ round may not be the best idea from a liability perspective, you don't want the round to go through the perp as it could pass through a wall and/or ricochet into an uninvolved party. I always thought the hollow point was a good idea as it did not pass through. Again, from a liability perspective it could be considered overkill. I will likely go with gold dots as that is what my local police department uses. An attorney would have a hard time arguing overkill if you shot the same round that the police would have, had they been there.
Liability?? You shoot someone, perp or innocent, you are going to get sued by SOMEONE. Whether that amounts to anything in court-depends on the judge. That was my point about taking a shooting course. Especially one that has a shoot-don't shoot simulator.
Any hunter knows that the best blood trail is created by two holes in the target. There are too many variables to consider when shooting true hollow points. If you shoot a hot load out a big bore gun (40 cal) with hollow points at close range (10-15 ft) and hit something as insignificant as a metal zipper, your penetration drops significantly. If hollow points were so great, every police force in the world would use them. I guarantee you that they use ball, wadcutter or semi wadcutter or possibly something like the Hornady XTP round.
Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it
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