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02 sno pro - i have a 02 sno pro 440 it has the new firecat body style, what are some good mods or things you can do to make it that much better started by xINeEdSnOwIx
June 21st 2009 at 7:02 PM  [ Modified June 21st 2009 at 7:09 PM ]
 
xINeEdSnOwIx
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mods or easy things to do... cheaply



2002 1/2 zr 440 sno pro
-D&D clutching
-Fox shocks
-6 inch bar risers
-C&A skis
-1.5 track
-RSI handguards w/ billet mounts
-RSI mountain bar

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June 21st 2009 at 7:23 PM
 
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I guess it depends on what you consider cheap. I would change the windshield and maybe throw some new handlebars on there.




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June 21st 2009 at 10:22 PM
 
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Leave it, save up and drop an 800 in it.



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June 22nd 2009 at 9:29 PM
 
xINeEdSnOwIx
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the wind shield is the right height and is clearish green and the bars i think are stock but they still have the handlebar hook...it also has a 6 inch bar riser..i would consider cheap $100.. and where would you recomend to buy cans.. because i can not find any sites that even have my sled in the search thing.



2002 1/2 zr 440 sno pro
-D&D clutching
-Fox shocks
-6 inch bar risers
-C&A skis
-1.5 track
-RSI handguards w/ billet mounts
-RSI mountain bar

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June 22nd 2009 at 10:01 PM  [ Modified June 22nd 2009 at 10:21 PM ]
 
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If you can't find any compnay that makes them than you can have JAWS Preformance build you a can.

Just to list a few can possibilities: Speed Werx, MBRP, Sno Stuff, amd SLP




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June 22nd 2009 at 10:10 PM
 
xINeEdSnOwIx
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how would they make it custom? and i think my sled is very closely alike the 03 zr 440... i was originally looking for a sno-stuff can but cant find any place that sells them...



2002 1/2 zr 440 sno pro
-D&D clutching
-Fox shocks
-6 inch bar risers
-C&A skis
-1.5 track
-RSI handguards w/ billet mounts
-RSI mountain bar

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June 26th 2009 at 4:15 PM
 
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Hey, I know that sled! Did you ever get the A-arm/bulkhead fixed?




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June 26th 2009 at 8:12 PM
 
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what are you aiming to do? It's a hot sled as it is already...




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June 29th 2009 at 12:45 AM
 
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get a jaws can




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June 29th 2009 at 1:06 AM
 
xINeEdSnOwIx
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tigerjets wrote
Friday at 4:15 PM
Hey, I know that sled! Did you ever get the A-arm/bulkhead fixed?


Huh? i bought this sled 2 weeks agoish. what do u mean you know this sled?
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what are you aiming to do? It's a hot sled as it is already...


I am aiming to get handguards on it, some kind of aftermarket can preferably jaws, and maybe black headlight covers if i can find some cheap.



2002 1/2 zr 440 sno pro
-D&D clutching
-Fox shocks
-6 inch bar risers
-C&A skis
-1.5 track
-RSI handguards w/ billet mounts
-RSI mountain bar

.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.

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June 29th 2009 at 2:51 PM
 
Bckmstr
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Quote originally posted by xINeEdSnOwIx

the wind shield is the right height and is clearish green and the bars i think are stock but they still have the handlebar hook...it also has a 6 inch bar riser..i would consider cheap $100.. and where would you recomend to buy cans.. because i can not find any sites that even have my sled in the search thing.


good luck finding a can for $100, keep searching the snowmobile parts forums, also try e-bay might get lucky




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July 2nd 2009 at 9:24 PM
 
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Does it have a clutch kit?



Eat my snow from my 380 :P

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July 2nd 2009 at 10:15 PM
 
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i have this sled exactly with lots of extras, there is nobody that makes a can that i know of, ther is a do it yourself kit from jaws that goes together pretty easy and saves you lots of money if you can weld. im parting mine out so let me know if anybody is interested in parts




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July 5th 2009 at 6:12 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by skidoo4you

Does it have a clutch kit?


D&D clutching



2002 1/2 zr 440 sno pro
-D&D clutching
-Fox shocks
-6 inch bar risers
-C&A skis
-1.5 track
-RSI handguards w/ billet mounts
-RSI mountain bar

.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.

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July 5th 2009 at 9:54 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by xINeEdSnOwIx
Quote originally posted by skidoo4you

Does it have a clutch kit?


D&D clutching


ya im sorry didnt c that



Eat my snow from my 380 :P

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July 6th 2009 at 9:49 PM
 
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hey u need to talk to my buddy he has the same sled by far hands down the nastest 440 anywhere talk to him his name is 02zr440sp good luck u can make it faster than stock f7's i have one thats stock but not this winter lol




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July 6th 2009 at 10:26 PM
 
xINeEdSnOwIx
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Quote originally posted by sledfreakxxx

hey u need to talk to my buddy he has the same sled by far hands down the nastest 440 anywhere talk to him his name is 02zr440sp good luck u can make it faster than stock f7's i have one thats stock but not this winter lol


Haha ya ill take a look and talk to him sometime. Ya my brother said hes getting an f7 and said he could waste me but im not gonna let him just go out and buy a stock sled and whoop me..

When you start doing things to your sled post a thread about it.. i would like to read more about it



2002 1/2 zr 440 sno pro
-D&D clutching
-Fox shocks
-6 inch bar risers
-C&A skis
-1.5 track
-RSI handguards w/ billet mounts
-RSI mountain bar

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July 25th 2009 at 12:14 PM
 
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the stock 7 will not beat you off the line but after about 75 mph the f7 will pull ahead. the f7 has way more top end then the 440.




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July 26th 2009 at 8:57 AM
 
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Quote originally posted by xINeEdSnOwIx

mods or easy things to do... cheaply


speed werx makes a clutch kit that works real good on that sled




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September 11th 2009 at 7:03 PM
 
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Arctic Cat Sno Pro 440 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006
2002 and 2004– 2006 Arctic Cat Sno Pro 440 set up Information and specifications.
Set up for the 2003 440 Sno Pro included.
2002 Arctic Cat Sno Pro’s came in two types.
LOW COMPRESSION / HIGH COMPRESSION
If you want to run pump gas for trail use here are a few setups that work.
The Low compression engine. You have a couple options…..
My setup in my 2005 Sno Pro 440
1. Using the stock 2002 Low compression heads with the code 95B1 cast in the top of the head.

I have the timing set to -3 Degrees using the adjusting knob.

I run 300 - 310 main jets with the stock pilot jets needle clip in the middle position.(item #24)

I have a Holtzmen TempaFlow installed.
This compensator automatically adjusts carb jetting for all temperatures and is set to work with -20F (-29C) carb jetting for snowmobiles. It can easily be adjusted, however, to work with jetting for any temperature. There is an external screw which easily provides manual altitude adjustment effective for up to a 6000 foot (1800 meter) elevation change. We recommend this compensator for the user who wants "set and forget" temperature adjustment with normally less than 2000 feet of elevation change or occasional mountain riding.

Tempa Flow Installation Instructions
Vacuum Source Instructions

This has helped my gas mileage and I don’t have to rejet all the time!
I have run this set up down to -17F @ 960ft and have not melted an engine down.
I run this set up without sending my CDI to Arctic Cat for reprogramming on my 2005 440 Sno Pro.
You must use Gas with a minimum octane rating of 90 - 93 Octane using the R+M 2 Method this is found on all gas pumps in Minnesota. I try to use gas that is not Oxygenated (alcohol added) FOR ADDED SAFETY AGAINST MELTDOWN.
You do not need to run this (clear gas) if you can not get it out on the trail. I just try to run the best fuel I can buy at the time. This is cheaper than a melt down!!
The E1 or E2 cast into the top of the head does not matter nor do the circles with the separator bar and two digits on top and bottom. Those are the casting foundry identification numbers and the dates that the parts were cast.
Some heads have etched in information such as Proto 1 and Proto 2
These heads were early preproduction heads marked by the R&D department for testing and tracking purposes.
2. Arctic Cat set up for pump gas in a 2002 Sno Pro 440
Arctic Cat says that to run the 2002 sno pro 440 on pump gas.
a. you need to reprogram the CDI by sending it to them.
b. Run the Low compression heads with the code 95B1
c. set the jetting according to the 2002 jetting chart.
3. The aftermarket set up.
Speedwerx, Inc. 20195 Greystone Ave. N. Forest Lake, MN 55025
Phone: (651) 982- 6020. Fax: (651) 982-0630.
Email: tech@speedwerx.com
http://www.hotseatperformance.com
They sell a set of milled out heads with two different screw in inserts (High compression and Low compression) They claim that you do not have to reprogram your CDI if you use there heads.
Race Sled - Pump Gas CDI Re-Mapping
Send your mod sled ignition box to us to get re-mapped. When combined with our low compression head kits, you can run pump gas and make your mod sled a trail sled!
TECH NOTE 1:
Also available for 2003 SnoPro 440 race sleds! The 2003 440 can run on pump gas with just a simple ignition re-mapping. No head change is needed on the 2003 440 SnoPro!
TECH NOTE 2:
On the 2004-2007 440 SnoPro Models, a Speedwerx head kit is required but no re-mapping is necessary! Speedwerx Head Part # AC440BH-12.8.


ID #: RPI
Price: $100.00 for the remapping only!!


Model Year Part # Description Price Dome Only Part # Price
Arctic Cat
Speedwerx head kit 4Head 40cc
Sno Pro 03-07 AC440BH-12.8
Pump Gas Conversion 0-5000 ft. Premium Fuel $395.00
Replacement Dome AC440BH-12.8D $69.00
4. The home made Low Compression set up
For 2002 and 2004 – 2006 sno pro 440’s
a. Take your stock high compression heads 95B3 to a machine shop and have them re-chambered to low compression heads.
b. Rejet to 310 mains
c. stock pilots
d. middle needle clip position on the stock needle
e. Add a Holtzmen TEMPA FLOWgood from +40 F to -20 F
http://www.holtzmaneng.com
f. with the timing set at -3 Deg
If you do not know of a good machine shop to use or where to find one. I have been going to this shop in Anoka MN since 1979 and can not say enough good things about Bill and his shop. Thanks for all the good work and help Bill.
Bill Bune Enterprises-Anoka Minnesota-motorcycle, snowmobile, atv ...
rodwork, milling,cylinder boring, sleeving, honing, crankshaft rebuilding, head work,
www.billbune.com
The High Compression Engine
The High compression engine uses the heads that are marked 95B3 again the other markings for our purposes are irrelevant.
You must run 110 octane race gas with these heads!!!!
The stock jetting is between 260-280 main jets.
The timing can be set any where from +1 to +3 depending on jetting/ altitude and weather conditions /temp /baro etc….
Gains to the mid through top end can be made with the addition of after market intake systems exhaust manifolds and pipes.These may not be legal in your class of racing so check the rules before you send the money on them if you are a racer.
The odd one 2003 Sno Pro 440
This year only!!!!!It still has the high comp heads but different porting in the jugs.
To run on pump gas all you have to do is send your CDI to Arctic Cat and have it reprogrammed.
Then rejet to 310 mains.
You are now done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cooling the Sno Pro down for the trails.
The stock system is only good for Ideal snow conditions!
Think 6-12” of fresh powder not compacted down from the last one hundred riders.
There are three common types of ad on cooling systems for the sno pro’s.
1. Adding a set of running board heat exchangers from the F5 F6 F7 and a interconnect pipe at the rear.
2. Adding a short extruded cooler at the rear (2002 style)with the F cat chasis type of cooler running down the boards.
3. Adding a custom U Cooler under the seat in the tunnel.
The minimum thing to add is an extended snow flap for very good snow conditions.
Torque specs.
The torque specs for the heads are 250 in lbs or 21-25 ft lbs for the 8mm Head bolts and 6-8 ft lbs 72 - 96 in lbs for the 6mm water crossover manifold bolts and Allen head screws.

There is an Allen screw in the top of the head at the 12 o’clock position.
It is under the cooling bar when you remove the manifold ends.
It is common not to see it so there is your heads up.
The heads have two O-rings on each head. (Total of four) and two gaskets on the Thermostat water manifold across the heads. Here are some of the part numbers and the prices from A/C.
O-RING, CYL HD BLT (10 per pack)
3003-227 12 $14.15
O RING,HEAD-INNER (2 per pack)
3003-224 2 $24.55
O RING,HEAD-OUTER (2 per pack)
3003-226 2 $17.07
CYLINDER COMP,04' 440 L/C SNO PRO
3006-738 2 $644.00
GASKET,CYLINDER
3006-423 1 $13.61
SPARK PLUG, BR9EYA (BR9EYA) (10 per pack)
0217-709 2 $27.50
HEAD COMP,CYL-2003 L/C SNO PRO (inc. 2)
3006-622 2 $182.98
GASKET, THERMOSTAT MANIFOLD
3004-260 2 $5.87

Replace them when ever you do a head replacement.
Why risk a blown head and over heating or warping your heads and jug’s over a few bucks???

FAQ’s

How much HP loss is there with the low comp heads around 15hp?
Much Less than that.
My dealer said that you will loose 5-9 tops.
The stock High Compression Heads have around 170 PSI of compression on my gauge.
The stock Low Compression Heads have around 150 PSI of compression on my gauge.
You can make that back with a few little modifications like adding….
Boysen RAD Valve and reeds.
Delta V-Force Reed Valves
High Flow Exhaust systems and canisters
A good porting and polishing job can add power too.
Use all of the old tried and true methods to make power/ gasket matching /tuning/timing /porting/carb mods/etc…
With these you probably won’t notice the difference if you do a good job of tuning for your conditions and elevation.




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September 11th 2009 at 7:10 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by crums440

the stock 7 will not beat you off the line but after about 75 mph the f7 will pull ahead. the f7 has way more top end then the 440.


After 75 mph? right.... That 440 will hit a wall at 60, and creep up to the mid seventies for top speed, the F7 is almost a 120mph sled... Comparing a 440 to an F7 is like comparing apples to Oranges...




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