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Please Oppose This Legislation
- "American Clean Energy and Security Act" endangers mining jobs
started by RMK-Queen
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June 23rd 2009 at 7:39 AM
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RMK-Queen
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This summer I'm working as a temp at a coal mine near my hometown, but my father worked at a coal mine my whole life, so I've always been around mining. I've always known about the controversy around mining, but I've never agreed with those who thought coal was the devil.
North Dakota coal mines (and the high paying jobs they provide) keep young people in ND. Coal mines and power plants are the jobs that will make us stay around. As a summer temp, I'm making almost twice as much as one of my classmates from high school is making at his full time job.
Making coal more expensive to make everything else seem cheaper is not the answer. Some of these plans seem to come from people who think electricity comes from a plug in. 
Here's the email I got. It has more specifics, rather than my rants...
The U.S. House of Representatives may vote as soon as June 24 on climate change legislation sponsored by Reps. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) and Ed Markey (D-Mass.) that threatens nearly 70,000 high-paying coal mining jobs and could saddle American consumers and businesses with drastically higher energy bills.
ACT Now and urge your elected members of Congress to oppose the "American Clean Energy and Security Act" (H.R. 2454). Tell Congress that climate change legislation must not jeopardize thousands of jobs or America's economic competiveness and energy security.
Help make the mining community's voice heard. Tell Washington to reject H.R. 2454 and work towards responsible climate legislation.
Write Congress today.
http://capwiz.com/nma/issues/alert/?aler...d=13261936
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June 23rd 2009 at 12:37 PM
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picman
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I have said it before and I'll say it again. Until we Americans have the balls to elect a 3rd party candidate, we the citizens of this great country will be subject to these kinds of bills/laws. The GOP (ripofflicans) will do nothing that might hurt a company-at the expense of the public. The Dummycrats will always try to "protect" the public by sticking it to as many companies as possible.
Do we need clean air and water laws? Of course we do. But they must be progressive in their time tables and reasonable in their cost. As anyone who has taken macro-economics has learned, there is a point of diminishing returns. No sense getting to that point BEFORE any visible and reasonable reductions have taken place!
Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it
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June 23rd 2009 at 10:03 PM
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arcticcatmatt
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seems semi related to this http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12073 that is being talked about on the coal forum I frequent
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June 23rd 2009 at 10:13 PM
[ Modified June 23rd 2009 at 10:14 PM
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RMK-KING
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I dont think it will pass,alot of dems have coal in their states and that would really give them a "anti-job" reputation. Im in the coal business as well so I most defiantly signed it. They will slowly try and faze out coal but it will not be an overnight deal,to much relies on it. A 3rd party president would be the best solution to this I think haha.
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June 23rd 2009 at 10:29 PM
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bigblock
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Quote originally posted by RMK-KING
I dont think it will pass,alot of dems have coal in their states and that would really give them a "anti-job" reputation. Im in the coal business as well so I most defiantly signed it. They will slowly try and faze out coal but it will not be an overnight deal,to much relies on it. A 3rd party president would be the best solution to this I think haha.
Sadly a lot of dems do have coal mines in their states. Even more sad is they will pass this bill because they are spineless and they do whatever Obama tells them to do.
I hope I die like my grandpa did - quietly in his sleep... not like the rest of the people in the car.
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June 24th 2009 at 12:22 PM
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picman
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picman says is it gun deer season yet?
Updated Tuesday at 12:59 PM
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I agree it will get passed...in the House. I don't think it will in the Senate at least not in the current form. It takes 60 votes to cut off debate and vote. There should be a few Dems that will be willing to extend debate and entertain amendments of which the Replublicans will have many.
Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it
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June 28th 2009 at 9:58 AM
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picman is right!! Not until this gountry has the balss and BRAINS to abolish this two party system we have will this country ever unscrew its head out of its ass!! But hey, at least this country is getting the "change" that was promised, sadly, by the time the idiots who voted this ass clown into office and then gave him the most liberal congress in history to work with, the damage will be done already!!
General in the Anti-Catsdouche06 army, saving the world from stupidity and inbreeding!
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June 28th 2009 at 7:22 PM
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Jerkyking
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Quote originally posted by RMK-KING
I dont think it will pass,alot of dems have coal in their states and that would really give them a "anti-job" reputation. Im in the coal business as well so I most defiantly signed it. They will slowly try and faze out coal but it will not be an overnight deal,to much relies on it. A 3rd party president would be the best solution to this I think haha.
This is a Democrat pushed bill!!! I can't understand how the Democrats are supposed reflect the "working class - Blue collar" American but they are always the ones sticking it too us that hold that title. Nothing but Hypocrite's who have lost touch.
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June 28th 2009 at 10:11 PM
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I think it'll be funny when he starts closing mines in Pennsylvania and West Virgina, after they gave him their electorial votes!! Shows the thinking in this country, some idiot basically tells you he's going to destroy your industry and your job and you still vote for him!!
General in the Anti-Catsdouche06 army, saving the world from stupidity and inbreeding!
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