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LCD vs. Plasma - What are the differences between them? started by firecatF5
June 30th 2009 at 5:50 PM
 
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Hi everybody,

We are going to be getting a new flat panel TV in the next few weeks.
I was just wondering what the main differences between them are. I have herd that plasmas are a "dead" trend because of the problem with burning images into the screen.
We are currently looking at the sharp Aquas, Sony Bravia and the LG and Samsung TV's. Any tips would be very appreciated.

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June 30th 2009 at 6:41 PM
 
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Image burn-in is non-existant on current plasma models. LCD works better in brightly lit rooms as the plastic screens don't glare, Plasma works better with video games and action sports as it doesn't have a shadow effect with fast motion (although this issue is more or less gone with LCDs now as well)

Unless you're dead set on wall mounting, keep projection TVs as an option as well. Samsung recently came out with a low profile DLP projection TV with a LED light source. Lamp doesn't burn out and consumes less energy than plasma, LCD, or halogen lamp projection TVs. IMO, DLP projection TVs still have the best picture, and work the best with video games and fast motion video. But you still limited at about a 135 degree viewing angle vs 175 with the flatpanels

Also, Samsung also just came out with a very slim LED flatpanel display. Very thin, very lightweight, very energy efficient, and doesn't have any of the issues with shadowing, burn-in, or off angle viewing that any of the other technologies suffer from, but, unfortunately, the price is still kinda high on them.



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July 1st 2009 at 1:06 AM  [ Modified July 1st 2009 at 1:13 AM ]
 
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OK! I'm going to chime in here since the reference to the old thread was started by me. Back in 2007 I ended up buying a 50" series 2 Samsung Plasma. Series 2 panels are capable of displaying 720P resolution and had no anti-glare film. Yes it had some problems with glare, but only during the day. At night the picture was perfect. It was also the envy of my friends that bought LCD's back then. Fast forward to today, I still have the Series 2 and have since added a new Samsung 50" Series 4 to the house. The series 2 is in the basement and still works perfect. The new one is still only capable of displaying 720P but I'll go into that later. It now hangs on the family room/great room wall that has a total of 10 south facing windows and two skylights. Glare? 98% of the time no problem. Pixilation never an issue. Screen burn in? The Series 2 has a Wii connected to it and gets played alot and no issues. The series 4 has a PS2 connected and no issues. Both sets have Pixel shift that stops burn in. Back to the 720p vs. 1080p argument. If you plan on watching mostly cable or sat. then 720P is all you need as 99% the stuff that the cable and sat companies broadcast is in 720P regardless of what you hear. The standard for HD in North America is 720P. The only country to go with 1080P for the standard in HD was Japan. Watching a 720P signal on a 1080P capable TV changes nothing - you still only see 720P. The bottom line here in my opinion is this. Unless you are going to invest heavily in a collection of Blue ray discs, then go out and buy a nice Plasma 720P for less then $900 and enjoy it for the next 5 years. I agree that LCD will eventually kill Plasma but not until the newly released 240HZ LED panels get down to prices regular folks are willing to pay. The deals on cheap LCD's are all on 60HZ panels and you will be sorry. One last thing to consider is if you plan on watching alot of Standard Def TV (regular cable) then you have to be very carefull what tv you buy as some are much better at displaying SD content then others. For the most part Sony still does the best job in rendering SD content on their LCD's. At best if you get 5-8 years from any TV then you are doing great. Yes the panels will last 20 years but the power supplies, video processors, etc. might last about 5-8 years. After that you are living on borrowed time. If one of these components goes then you are looking at $300 - $500 to fix a $900 set. Buy a cheaper Plasma and buy a nice HD PVR and you will get much more enjoyment then you will by spending all your money on the best TV your money can buy today - because they are both going to the dump around the same time. Also buy a Brand name TV because if you do need service you will know that parts are available. Some of the off Brands you may have to wait 6-8 weeks for a simple part as nobody stocks it. Either way good luck with your choice and report back here once you do decide.

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July 1st 2009 at 8:29 AM
 
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Quote originally posted by ludvic

OK! I'm going to chime in here since the reference to the old thread was started by me. Back in 2007 I ended up buying a 50" series 2 Samsung Plasma. Series 2 panels are capable of displaying 720P resolution and had no anti-glare film. Yes it had some problems with glare, but only during the day. At night the picture was perfect. It was also the envy of my friends that bought LCD's back then. Fast forward to today, I still have the Series 2 and have since added a new Samsung 50" Series 4 to the house. The series 2 is in the basement and still works perfect. The new one is still only capable of displaying 720P but I'll go into that later. It now hangs on the family room/great room wall that has a total of 10 south facing windows and two skylights. Glare? 98% of the time no problem. Pixilation never an issue. Screen burn in? The Series 2 has a Wii connected to it and gets played alot and no issues. The series 4 has a PS2 connected and no issues. Both sets have Pixel shift that stops burn in. Back to the 720p vs. 1080p argument. If you plan on watching mostly cable or sat. then 720P is all you need as 99% the stuff that the cable and sat companies broadcast is in 720P regardless of what you hear. The standard for HD in North America is 720P. The only country to go with 1080P for the standard in HD was Japan. Watching a 720P signal on a 1080P capable TV changes nothing - you still only see 720P. The bottom line here in my opinion is this. Unless you are going to invest heavily in a collection of Blue ray discs, then go out and buy a nice Plasma 720P for less then $900 and enjoy it for the next 5 years. I agree that LCD will eventually kill Plasma but not until the newly released 240HZ LED panels get down to prices regular folks are willing to pay. The deals on cheap LCD's are all on 60HZ panels and you will be sorry. One last thing to consider is if you plan on watching alot of Standard Def TV (regular cable) then you have to be very carefull what tv you buy as some are much better at displaying SD content then others. For the most part Sony still does the best job in rendering SD content on their LCD's. At best if you get 5-8 years from any TV then you are doing great. Yes the panels will last 20 years but the power supplies, video processors, etc. might last about 5-8 years. After that you are living on borrowed time. If one of these components goes then you are looking at $300 - $500 to fix a $900 set. Buy a cheaper Plasma and buy a nice HD PVR and you will get much more enjoyment then you will by spending all your money on the best TV your money can buy today - because they are both going to the dump around the same time. Also buy a Brand name TV because if you do need service you will know that parts are available. Some of the off Brands you may have to wait 6-8 weeks for a simple part as nobody stocks it. Either way good luck with your choice and report back here once you do decide.

Regards,

Wow thank you for all the great feedback and information. The 50" series 4 is a plasma right?




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July 1st 2009 at 10:17 AM
 
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Bottom line, any of the new Plasma's will be a much better than any of the "budget priced" LCD's. Like I said, if you want an LCD that will come close to a Plasma, then you are going to spend $2500 Plus. For about $800-$900 you can get a nice 50" Plasma, a nice HD PVR and a good HD cable/Sat programing package and enjoy it for the next 5 years or so when the whole playing field will be changed.

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I have a LG 50" plamsa 720 pixel and love it, and got a great deal on it last january. I went with plasma since it handles sports and videos games better than LCD does and you get alot bigger screen size for the money. Also like the guy at the store said that 720 pixel is fine since unless you are watching blue ray movies it is hard to see the difference between 720 or 1080.

Also with burn in it can happen but you have to leave it on one object for hours before it will be noticeable, so yeah i wouldn't listen to people that say plasma is a waste.



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July 7th 2009 at 12:03 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by 1greenmachine

I have a LG 50" plamsa 720 pixel and love it, and got a great deal on it last january. I went with plasma since it handles sports and videos games better than LCD does and you get alot bigger screen size for the money. Also like the guy at the store said that 720 pixel is fine since unless you are watching blue ray movies it is hard to see the difference between 720 or 1080.

Also with burn in it can happen but you have to leave it on one object for hours before it will be noticeable, so yeah i wouldn't listen to people that say plasma is a waste.


Yea thats what they told us too. That 720p would be fine because thats what HD television is broadcasted in. He said that 1080i or p wpould only be necessary for blu-ray or ps3/ 360.




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The only real important difference that I see is that if your at high elevation a plasma TV will hum and an LCD is quiet at any elevation. We installed a plasma in someones house up here and they spent the extra money, i mean alotta extra money, on getting the encapsulated plasma which doesnt hum but the price will make you sh*t a brick.



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