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My airplane obsession/hobby
- FS9 - Boeing 747
started by Polaris-Man
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July 6th 2009 at 10:09 PM
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Polaris-Man
Mike Otis
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11899 Posts 
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Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Letellier, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: '08 Dragon '07 Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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Some people around here know I'm completely obsessed with airplanes, mostly the Boeing 747 though. I've been constantly flying planes in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 (Otherwise known as FS9) for years, using the default panels with add on planes from various websites.
Last week I bought an add-on plane from a payware website that simulates a real 747-400, from real aircraft systems and flight management computers and whatnot, it makes me think all the time I spent with default stuff was a waste. It came with an approximately 500 page manual and it was put together by people with ties to Boeing and is certified by Boeing. It's sweet. No more press "CTRL-E" to start the engines and take off. Now I actually have to make flight plans, calculate fuel loads and all that fun stuff. (I realize it's probably boring for most but I find it very interesting.)
I took some screenshots the other day flying from Dubai to Toronto in an old Canadian Airlines 747-400.
Sitting at the gate in Dubai
Overhead panel of the Boeing 747-400
Panel of the Boeing 747-400
Sitting at the gate in Dubai, powering up the plane, you can see the NAV and Logo lights are now on.
Virtual cockpit.
Pushing back from the gate.
Taxiing out.
Lining up on the runway.
Lining up on the runway.
Turning shortly after takeoff.
Cruise.
Panel during cruise.
Turning near Toronto.
Lining up with the runway at Toronto.
Getting close.
Nose gear touchdown, reverse thrust and spoilers out.
Taxiing to the gate.
Parked at the gate.
I know the gates aren't up to the plane in the pictures but that's a limitation of FS9. I believe FSX, the newest flight simulator has gates that connect and stuff but I don't like FSX. It's hard on frame rates and really isn't much better than FS9, I have both simulators and I still just use 2004. More addons for it and I'm used to it.
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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July 6th 2009 at 10:37 PM
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So P-Man,
Does this meen that you are looking at putting away the tractors for a pilot's licence?
I knew that you were into planes, and the 747 in particular when you were comparing them to an Airbus some damn model about a year ago.
Pretty cool stuff. Probably the most HP one could operate as a civillian.
That in and of it's self would do it for me.
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July 6th 2009 at 11:24 PM
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XLT96rider
Other sports play once a week, but this sport is with us every day.
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Location: Wausau, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 1996 Polaris XLT Special
2008-2009 Miles: 1000+
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Tried those simulators a while back, kept crashing when landing. 
Here's my favorive, too bad it's decommissioned except for NASA use.
Are you able to fly one of these in that???
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July 6th 2009 at 11:33 PM
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duck91
I like beer 'cos it is good, i drink beer because i should
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Member Since: January 27th 2005
Location: Port Huron, Mi, USA
Current Sled: 95 xlt special
2008-2009 Miles: 2
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i have fsx, but i need a better joystick because so far i have been used my rc sim controller lol. might lookin to it as i wanna start playing it more.
i really like the Cessna 182 skylane, right now im building a 65" nitro one, looks great and should be finding out how it flys soon. also gonna be starting a yak 54 soon, they fly like they are on rails. and thanks to my friends i have been getting the speed itch, so i might start a ducted fan f-16 lol. hobbies or obsession hard choise lol.
cessna should look like this.
95 indy xlt special- stock, 1.25" track, camoplast skis and a DG can.
93 eagle summit, 40 MPG yay
90 jeep Cherokee pioneer. the winter beater. dead and broken
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July 7th 2009 at 12:26 AM
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Polaris-Man
Mike Otis
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11899 Posts
Group: Administrators
Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Letellier, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: '08 Dragon '07 Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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There are probably some SR-71 blackbirds out there for FS9 or FSX, but their FDE's are probably lousy and very un-realistic.
However if the model is good and that's all you're looking for, I'm sure you could find one easily at http://www.avsim.com (Their library is currently down... Whole other story there, but it's the best site out there, when it gets working again...) or at http://www.flightsim.com
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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July 7th 2009 at 5:19 AM
[ Modified July 7th 2009 at 5:20 AM
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Ugly_old_Poo_kid
techno-bumpkin
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Location: Walworth, NY, USA
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2008-2009 Miles: 165
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I wonder if the flight simulators accurately portray the real life piloting of a SR-71 Blackbird, with it's "hours of sheer boredom interspersed with moments of sheer panic"? (quoted by an actual SR-71 pilot)
95 - Storm 800 - Modded - AKA: FrankenStorm - Totalled near 100mph at Tug Hill!
96 - XLT/SP with Storm 800 trip/trip and now EFI - FrankenStorm II lives...
95 - RXL -- Sale Pending --
05 - Edge 800 long track - Stayin' stock for now..
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It made me more compassionate, more empathetic, more nurturing...
I FEEL LIKE I'M TRAPPED IN MY OWN WORST NIGHTMARE!!!
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July 7th 2009 at 6:44 AM
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RMK-KING
The Fabricator Moderator
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9123 Posts 
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Member Since: October 3rd 2002
Location: Center and Roseglen, ND, USA
Current Sled: 09 RMK 700 & 06 IQr 600
2008-2009 Miles: 550
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So do you think you could fly a real one if you had to after playing the simulator?
Current Line Up
-09 RMK Assault
-06 IQ R 600HO
-01 ProX 600
-95 XCR 600
Days get shorter,snow gets deeper,life gets better.
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July 7th 2009 at 6:51 AM
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Polaris-Man
Mike Otis
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11899 Posts
Group: Administrators
Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Letellier, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: '08 Dragon '07 Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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^^
Not yet...
It'd be cool to try some day though. Preferrably for fun and not out of necessity...
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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July 7th 2009 at 7:33 AM
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JONESIE
SLED IS BOTTLE FED
JONESIE Too dam busy for my own good.
Updated Last Monday at 12:14 PM
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Member Since: March 8th 2004
Location: winnipeg, manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: 04 700 switchback mod
2008-2009 Miles: 643
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I too am hooked on flight simulators. I play fs9 and fsx a few hours a week on my system. I love them, though from what your now saying i may have to go more realistic and buy some add ons.
04 700 switchback clutched, aatacc, slp big air kit, sportech hand gaurds, boyseen reeds, c&a pro xt with 6" carbide, 8" big wheel kit, slp cheater head, full slp pipe setup, black belly pan, walker evans clicker shocks, 1.5 camoplast cross country track, ported cylinder, and boss noss 30-40hp kit.
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July 7th 2009 at 8:13 AM
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MNSLEDNECK56308
Senior Member
MNSLEDNECK56308 done working on trailer for the night!
Updated Thursday at 10:44 PM
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2710 Posts
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Location: ALEXANDRIA, MN, USA
2008-2009 Miles: 1043
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I have one questions for you jeff, so on your flight from Dubai to Toronto, does that mean you have sit by your computer for the acutal amount of hours the real flight takes??? Just curious...as if that is the case, i don't think it would be for me! Looks very interesting I must say!
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July 7th 2009 at 12:00 PM
[ Modified July 7th 2009 at 12:03 PM
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BV_Boondocker
Holy s***! Thats a tree...
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Location: Bear Valley, CA, USA
Current Sled: '99 Polaris RMK 700
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Ive had some fun with some cheesy flight sims and stuff, but what I used to do alot was Locomotive simulators. That was until my dell crapped out and i was left with a hand me down mac which no one makes a decent train simulator for. But, i have tried x-plane since then which is actually really good. You can fly an osprey which is the vertical takeoff cargo plane, and a bunch of other fun stuff. But, my favorite part about the train simulator that i had (Trainz 2006) was that there are so many high quality addons for it. You can control high tech diesel electrics all the way to (my favorite) geared steam locomotives like the shay, heisler, and climax. I was addicted, heres some screenshots from it:  ^^Shay  ^^Heisler  ^^Climax  ^^In Cab of a diesel electric
"As I walk through the valley of death I fear no one, for I am the meanest motherf**ker in the valley!"
-General George Patton
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July 7th 2009 at 12:52 PM
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Polaris-Man
Mike Otis
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11899 Posts
Group: Administrators
Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Letellier, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: '08 Dragon '07 Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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That train thing looks pretty good, Jonesie, the 747 I have is the PMDG 747-400, available at http://www.precisionmanuals.com.
Darin, you don't have to fly it real-time, once I get to cruise altitude I usually put it on 8X speed and then browse the web on my laptop or watch TV or something, if an alarm dings for whatever reason I quickly hit "alt" to open the menu and pause the simulator, put it back to "normal" time, fix whatever dinged, then put it back on 8X. The flight from Dubai to Toronto took about 3 hours of real-time.
That's a long one though, I usually do un-realistic short flights since prep, takeoff and landing is 99% of the fun. Cruise is boring. However the long flights are more realistic, means you can take off with way higher weights due to large fuel loads and more chance of "failures" to occur, meaning something to do. Depends what's going on in real life I guess.
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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July 7th 2009 at 1:20 PM
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OhioPolarisKid
Advanced Member
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1155 Posts
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Member Since: January 22nd 2008
Location: Farmersville, Ohio, USA
Current Sled: 1999 Indy 500 XC SP
2008-2009 Miles: 1340
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That looks pretty cool. I forgot that i bought FSX over the winter and found it the other day. It almost made me go buy an external harddrive or a new PC because it takes up 15GB and my PC only has 36 usable GBs. I deleted every game except Rigs of Rods, most of my pictures, and cleaned up my whole PC and got it on. Now i have 4gb open on my harddrive. Overall its a good game, but my PC is to old and outdated to run the game smoothly. Ive thought about buying FS9 and running it. Id like to get a couple payware planes but i doubt my PC would like it and im pretty sure my dad would tell me no. It sure beats Flight Sim 96 and 98 though, which i used to play until i got the Combat Flight Sims.
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July 7th 2009 at 4:17 PM
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JONESIE
SLED IS BOTTLE FED
JONESIE Too dam busy for my own good.
Updated Last Monday at 12:14 PM
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Group: Members
Member Since: March 8th 2004
Location: winnipeg, manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: 04 700 switchback mod
2008-2009 Miles: 643
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Thanks P-man i will have to check that link out. What type of controls do you use? I run stick/throttle set up from saitek and really need to get a set of pedals. I also run my game on a 2 screen setup, one i use to switch throught the screens and one set on just instruments most of the time.
cheers
04 700 switchback clutched, aatacc, slp big air kit, sportech hand gaurds, boyseen reeds, c&a pro xt with 6" carbide, 8" big wheel kit, slp cheater head, full slp pipe setup, black belly pan, walker evans clicker shocks, 1.5 camoplast cross country track, ported cylinder, and boss noss 30-40hp kit.
FOR SALE PM FOR DETAIL
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July 7th 2009 at 5:27 PM
[ Modified July 7th 2009 at 5:28 PM
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Polaris-Man
Mike Otis
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11899 Posts
Group: Administrators
Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Letellier, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: '08 Dragon '07 Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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Since I'm cheap I just use a Logitech joystick... So much for realism...
I am planning on adding another monitor now as this 747 has so many panels and whatnot, I'm already tired of toggling them on and off. I want to get a yoke, throttle quadrant and pedals eventually, but that stuff all costs $ I don't have. There's some cool stuff out there like actual radio stacks and whatnot as well, but lordy they are expensive.
I also purchased FSBuild along with the PMDG plane as flight planning with MSFS's flight planner and getting it imported into PMDG's FMC didn't work so hot. Using FSBuild you can make your route and save it as a FS9 flight plan and a PMDG FMC Flight plan, load them both then everything mingles well.
What do you usually fly? I hope not the default planes that come with FS because they are horrible... hahaha
Also if you look into payware airports, I have a few, the nicest ones I have would be KSFO (San Francisco), TNCM (Phillipsburg St. Maarten), KMIA (Miami) and OMDB (Dubai). These are all from flytampa and they look really good. I also have KBOS from Flytampa, which is freeware for some reason, it's awesome though and I'm not gonna complain. KMIA has issues with the ILSes for the runways, there is an AFCAD that fixes it on avsim, but avsim is still down.
Other than that, I have freeware sceneries for CYWG (Winnipeg) and CYYZ (Toronto) that are pretty good. I want to get the FSDreamteam sceneries sometime but they are very hard on frames, I don't like landing when everything is jerky. I don't have a weak computer either...
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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July 10th 2009 at 10:05 AM
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stormrider62033
wally
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I would like to find these
mid Il alway's waiting for snow,moving north(way north)2001 thundercat 99xcr 800 97SPX ULTRA 96 zrt 600&800,92 doo plusX 92 v max 4 750
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July 10th 2009 at 10:55 PM
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rayrevo
toy wrecker
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Location: ham lake/ grand forks nd, mn, USA
Current Sled: 2003 polaris pro x 600
2008-2009 Miles: ?no speedo
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i am spoiled here at school we have a free frasca sim which is sweet in it one respect because there is a full cockpit but i am a nut for flight sim i have yoke and rudder pedals and a projector to show it on 
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July 16th 2009 at 8:39 AM
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Polaris-Man
Mike Otis
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11899 Posts
Group: Administrators
Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Letellier, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: '08 Dragon '07 Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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I think my experience just got better:
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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July 16th 2009 at 9:25 AM
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MNSLEDNECK56308
Senior Member
MNSLEDNECK56308 done working on trailer for the night!
Updated Thursday at 10:44 PM
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Location: ALEXANDRIA, MN, USA
2008-2009 Miles: 1043
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Clean you computer room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Picture just wouldn't be complete without a mountain dew can, I think that is one on the top shelf!!!!
Happy Flying Jeff!
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July 16th 2009 at 10:00 AM
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Polaris-Man
Mike Otis
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11899 Posts
Group: Administrators
Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Letellier, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: '08 Dragon '07 Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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C'mon Darin, it's not that bad for dirty...
And yes, that is a Mountain Dew can... Some things don't change... 
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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July 16th 2009 at 10:45 AM
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BV_Boondocker
Holy s***! Thats a tree...
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196 Posts
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Member Since: March 8th 2009
Location: Bear Valley, CA, USA
Current Sled: '99 Polaris RMK 700
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^^Ya just gotta do the dew, i know i do.
"As I walk through the valley of death I fear no one, for I am the meanest motherf**ker in the valley!"
-General George Patton
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July 16th 2009 at 2:50 PM
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pigboy
banned
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Current Sled: 1997 XLTsp
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I like the speakers pointing at all different directions and angles.
I reject your reality and substitute my own. 
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July 16th 2009 at 5:22 PM
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Polaris-Man
Mike Otis
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11899 Posts
Group: Administrators
Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Letellier, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: '08 Dragon '07 Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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^^
The speakers were just placed there before I set up new monitor. No rhyme or reason, it was open space on my desk so that's where they went for the time being. Not sure where to put them now...
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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