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Cleaning V.E.S.
- Where to start
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July 22nd 2009 at 1:01 PM
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Polaristhewayout
Rider of sleds
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1008 Posts 
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Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Webster, South Dakota
Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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Well i decided it's come time to clean the v.e.s. and don't really have any clue of what I'm doing. Any tips would be great. Thanks in advance PTWO
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July 22nd 2009 at 1:36 PM
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paulharris600_99
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Location: kewaskum, WI, USA
Current Sled: '99 xc 600
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I have heard of guys using an oven cleaner to get all build up off your exhast valve other wise a some what fine wire brush and some sort of parts cleaner works with a little bit of elbow grease!
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July 22nd 2009 at 1:38 PM
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Polaristhewayout
Rider of sleds
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Location: Webster, South Dakota
Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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yeah, but what do i all need to take off i order to clean it, i have the black plastic covers off and thats it. Sorry for being vague
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July 22nd 2009 at 1:45 PM
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MNSLEDNECK56308
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MNSLEDNECK56308 done working on trailer for the night!
Updated Thursday at 10:44 PM
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Location: ALEXANDRIA, MN, USA
2008-2009 Miles: 1043
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remove bolts, pull out, might want new gaskets, if not make sure not to rip gasket or bellow. I ususlly let them soak in carb cleaner and scrub off with rag or if really dirty (use amsoil interceptor) and use a green scotch pad!
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July 22nd 2009 at 1:48 PM
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paulharris600_99
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Location: kewaskum, WI, USA
Current Sled: '99 xc 600
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TAKE THOSE BOLTS OUT AND UNDER THAT COVER IS A SPRING AND DIAPHRAM THEN YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SLIDE YOUR EXHAUST VALVE OUT. ALSO REPLACE YOUR GASKET.
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July 22nd 2009 at 2:24 PM
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Polaristhewayout
Rider of sleds
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1008 Posts
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Location: Webster, South Dakota
Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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I can't get the diaphragm out? it moves about a 1/4 in. Then it won't move anymore.
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July 22nd 2009 at 2:30 PM
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Sled_Dog
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Location: Sellersville, Pennsylvania, USA
Current Sled: 08 Polaris IQ Shift
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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www.hardcoresledder.com/ves.htm">http://web.archive.org/web/2004041921571...om/ves.htm
Might just be THAT gunked up if you are having trouble pulling them. But no need to disassmble the bellows from what I see. I have yet to do this actually. Gonna do it on my Dad's 02 XC tonight probably.
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July 22nd 2009 at 3:01 PM
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Polaristhewayout
Rider of sleds
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1008 Posts
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Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Webster, South Dakota
Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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Success!!!! anyways, that diapragm right under the cap was the bellows right? i just need to know what to get because i accidentally ripped that.
Thanks for all the help everyone, my thumb is itching more than ever. 
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July 22nd 2009 at 4:31 PM
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PolarisPuglia
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Location: Boston, MA
Current Sled: proxr 440/800 mod
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i gotta do this too
2004 PRO-Xr 440/800 mod, c&a's, vforce reeds, more coming soon...
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July 22nd 2009 at 5:15 PM
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powersledder
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2008-2009 Miles: No Speedo
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Quote originally posted by MNSLEDNECK56308
remove bolts, pull out, might want new gaskets, if not make sure not to rip gasket or bellow. I ususlly let them soak in carb cleaner and scrub off with rag or if really dirty (use amsoil interceptor) and use a green scotch pad!
Some would recommend NOT to use scour pads, scrubbing the valves with a rough surface will wear away any sort of coating that may have been on them from the factory which would make them build up faster next time. Best thing to do is just to soak the parts in cleaner for a long period of time or in several stages and then gently wipe away the residue.
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July 22nd 2009 at 6:43 PM
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Polaristhewayout
Rider of sleds
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Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Webster, South Dakota
Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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haha too late^^^ o well i plan on doing it every year anyways, it's not too hard actually.
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July 23rd 2009 at 10:06 AM
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Sled_Dog
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Current Sled: 08 Polaris IQ Shift
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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I did the ones in my Dad's 02 XC and my 08 Shift last night. The **** inside the bellows area was NASTY oil that is still all under my nails. I used a plastic bristle pad on a 90* die grinder to clean the slides. Coating is gone if there was one, ha.
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July 23rd 2009 at 10:09 AM
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MNSLEDNECK56308
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MNSLEDNECK56308 done working on trailer for the night!
Updated Thursday at 10:44 PM
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Member Since: January 12th 2004
Location: ALEXANDRIA, MN, USA
2008-2009 Miles: 1043
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Quote originally posted by powersledder
Quote originally posted by MNSLEDNECK56308
remove bolts, pull out, might want new gaskets, if not make sure not to rip gasket or bellow. I ususlly let them soak in carb cleaner and scrub off with rag or if really dirty (use amsoil interceptor) and use a green scotch pad!
Some would recommend NOT to use scour pads, scrubbing the valves with a rough surface will wear away any sort of coating that may have been on them from the factory which would make them build up faster next time. Best thing to do is just to soak the parts in cleaner for a long period of time or in several stages and then gently wipe away the residue.
Green pad is as soft an any shop rag, with a little texture to more build up. No damage can be done by using a green pad. Anything more course isn't recommended!
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July 23rd 2009 at 11:00 AM
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sledneck1978
HAIL CHASER
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2008-2009 Miles: 875
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Is there any recommended amount of miles that this should be done. I may be keeping my 800 and trading the 600 in for a rush. If I keep the 800 I may do this too.
Good Thread
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" (Wayne Gretzky)
"Not everyone gets off to a great start, but you have to start to be great" (Zig Zigler)
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July 23rd 2009 at 12:34 PM
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Polaristhewayout
Rider of sleds
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1008 Posts
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Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Webster, South Dakota
Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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I'm sure it depends on the type of gas and oil you use, you could always just take them out and check them. ^^^^
Quote originally posted by Sled_Dog
I did the ones in my Dad's 02 XC and my 08 Shift last night. The **** inside the bellows area was NASTY oil that is still all under my nails. I used a plastic bristle pad on a 90* die grinder to clean the slides. Coating is gone if there was one, ha.
Me too a bunch of burnt up oil and that stuff doesn't wash off too easily either. o well it makes me look tuff.
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July 23rd 2009 at 4:09 PM
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ridingthe600edge
sleds are all polished up and waiting for snow!!!
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Current Sled: 2001 600 edge/2009 600 IQ
2008-2009 Miles: 1200 done
2009-2010 Miles: 2=yard!
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i do mine every spring/summer never to much preventive maintenance and i change the gaskets always only about $10 for the set worth it in my eyes
2001 600 edge X almond spring on primary with 60gm wieghts, s&s rumble pack, gutted air box 6" woodys doolys carbides,196 woodys 1 1/4" studs
2009 600 IQ shift all stock still a virgin!! not for much longer
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July 23rd 2009 at 9:44 PM
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XEdge600
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Current Sled: 2002 Polars Edge X 700
2008-2009 Miles: 990
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where can i get a set of the VES gaskets?
2002 Polaris Edge X 700
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July 23rd 2009 at 10:00 PM
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Polaristhewayout
Rider of sleds
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1008 Posts
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Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Webster, South Dakota
Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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i'm wondering the same thing^^ I hope a dealer, i need two gallows too.
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July 24th 2009 at 11:00 PM
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polaris91
117 racing
polaris91 ugh.
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you can get em from the dealer these are for your prox right? if so the gasket part # is 5812087 you need two of thrm and the bellows are part #5412733
1990 indy trail bored.20over, ported and polished, cluched and geared, chaincase/brakes/jackshaft from 93 xlt, headlight cover, teather, some custom painting, black skid plate, blue running board trim, fox shocks, blue/gray powermadd handguards, 2 in powermadd riser, fly bars/barpad,blue leds(underglow),1 in lug track, teather mount from a 96xcr440,blue guage bulbs, blue c&as, xtra 10 rear, and edge seat and tank.
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July 24th 2009 at 11:26 PM
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BV_Boondocker
Holy s***! Thats a tree...
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You can usually get all the stock parts from babbits.
http://www.babbittsonline.com/
"As I walk through the valley of death I fear no one, for I am the meanest motherf**ker in the valley!"
-General George Patton
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July 25th 2009 at 12:31 AM
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Polaristhewayout
Rider of sleds
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1008 Posts
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Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Webster, South Dakota
Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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yeah, one of my parents goes to a town with a dealer in it every working day though so, looks like we'll be waiting til monday.
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July 25th 2009 at 10:03 AM
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shady800x
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shady800x -20 degree weather...land is getting ready for snow!
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haha i just use a knife and scrap it off and i don't scratch them either
2003 Edge-X 800
Vforce 3 reeds, Powermadd Boost bottle, updated c.d.i. slp powder pro's, 1.25 predator track, fox racing clicker rear, rydefx center and skis, 1 in handle bar riser, specialty x can. 11.5 in cobra yellow tint windshield, and a sportech yellow tint lightshield.
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July 31st 2009 at 1:54 AM
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FireCat59
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2008-2009 Miles: 800
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I did the same thing^^ They were a bitch to get cleaned. I used oven cleaner, engine parts cleaner and carb cleaner. It got a lot of the gunk off but I went to a steel wool brush and scraped the carbon off with a screw driver carefully. Worked good.
"Who cares about triples, I could hit myself in the face with a frying pan and feel just as good as riding 10 miles on xtra 10." hahaha
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July 31st 2009 at 11:33 AM
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Polaristhewayout
Rider of sleds
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1008 Posts
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Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Webster, South Dakota
Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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i was going to spray it then let it sit for awhile with oven cleaner but i read the can and it said "Warning: Corrosive" so i didn't know if that was the best idea.
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August 4th 2009 at 3:23 AM
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Pharotek
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Pharotek is getting tired of his green lawn! Let it snow already!
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2008-2009 Miles: 447
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I started working on my sled last week and saw this topic. I also decied to clean them since i never had before boy was it a good idea! In the process I found where my coolante has been going. Found small droplets in one of the valves. Removed the head to find blowen head gaskets. Here some pics of my dirty valves...
98 Indy 500-Wife's
01 XCsp 600 edgex-current
96 formula lll 600-sold after droping a cylinder for the second time
95 Indy 440 50yrs anniversary-sold(miss this sled)
74 Polaris Electra 340-sold
69 Massey Ferguson Ski Whiz 440-sold(got for bday when i was 14)
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