POLARIS vs. ARCTIC CAT - bogginess started by POLARISDOMINATOR
	August 25th 2009 at 8:34 PM Post #1
	POLARISDOMINATOR ride to live live to ride POLARISDOMINATOR relationship issues!!! it wont matter when thers snow on the gorund and im not home where she can find me! Updated Monday at 11:13 PM 137 Posts Group: Members Member Since: August 17th 2009 Location: marinette, wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 95' Polaris Indy XCR 600
	My buddy thinks his 97 arctic cat 580 twin with studs will beat my 95 polaris xcr 600 triple also studded. unfortunatly my sled bogs down when i start off the line. This is just because mines a triple right? 95 xcr 600 trip. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Edit Topic

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	August 25th 2009 at 8:43 PM Post #2
	Hughes_097 Average Member 581 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 10th 2008 Location: Poland, New York, USA Current Sled: 06 Rev Adrenaline 2008-2009 Miles: 648
	no its because of a stupid first thread... Rating: +1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 8:47 PM Post #3
	arcticcatf5 Junior 537 Posts Group: Members Member Since: April 13th 2007 Location: Boston, NY, USA Current Sled: 2003 F5 Sno-Pro 2008-2009 Miles: None
	if your sled bogs its not because its a triple its because you have a carb problem “Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.” Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 8:48 PM Post #4
	tcm01024 Starting Member 23 Posts Group: Members Member Since: September 22nd 2008 Current Sled: 2002 XC 700SP 2008-2009 Miles: 2,800
	It should not bog even if it's a triple. It may be slower off the line and take a little longer to hit the powerband but it should not actually bog. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 8:50 PM Post #5
	THE_Norwegian :) THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D. Updated Yesterday at 5:32 PM 444 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 29th 2008 Location: Norway Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440 2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
	its because you carbs/clutching is bad... * XCR 440 * "I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!" Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 8:52 PM Post #6
	Mad-Boondocker Only way to take on FEAR is to take it head on 751 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 19th 2009 Location: East Otto, NY, USA Current Sled: 98 Polaris Indy 500 Mod 2008-2009 Miles: 185
	It probably is your carbs or crank seals my 500 had the same problem when i first got it As for the race it would be a close one it all depends how long the field is and who can put the power to the ground better 1998 Polaris Indy 500 chassis with 98 Xc 600 motor SLP ceramic coated pipe with SLP can V-force reeds 4 inch pivot riser Gutted Air Box EPI clutch kit soon to be installed Maybe some pro tapers 1998 XC 700 water-cross sled SLP twin pipes Some light weight parts Water-cross mods include taking the parts u do not need This includes removing the seat replacing gas tank and IFS bars. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 9:12 PM Post #7
	POLARISDOMINATOR ride to live live to ride POLARISDOMINATOR relationship issues!!! it wont matter when thers snow on the gorund and im not home where she can find me! Updated Monday at 11:13 PM 137 Posts Group: Members Member Since: August 17th 2009 Location: marinette, wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 95' Polaris Indy XCR 600
	well i just dont get it because it runs fine once she gets goin. its not really anything to worry about is it?... i dont really feel like cleaning my carbs till later 95 xcr 600 trip. Rating: -1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 9:15 PM  [ Modified August 25th 2009 at 9:18 PM ] Post #8
	THE_Norwegian :) THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D. Updated Yesterday at 5:32 PM 444 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 29th 2008 Location: Norway Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440 2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
	nothing to worry about ;) but you should clean/adjust you carbs, and check the rollers on the clutch... * XCR 440 * "I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!" Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 9:19 PM Post #9
	POLARISDOMINATOR ride to live live to ride POLARISDOMINATOR relationship issues!!! it wont matter when thers snow on the gorund and im not home where she can find me! Updated Monday at 11:13 PM 137 Posts Group: Members Member Since: August 17th 2009 Location: marinette, wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 95' Polaris Indy XCR 600
	SWEET thought my fuel mixture was too rich i hate re jetting 95 xcr 600 trip. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 9:26 PM Post #10
	THE_Norwegian :) THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D. Updated Yesterday at 5:32 PM 444 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 29th 2008 Location: Norway Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440 2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
	Quote originally posted by POLARISDOMINATOR SWEET thought my fuel mixture was too rich i hate re jetting it might be rich. you could try try adjusting the air screw and needle. but check the clutches first.. * XCR 440 * "I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!" Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 9:29 PM Post #11
	ClassicCat76 Vintage Sledhead ClassicCat76 Sled day! Updated Over 4 hours ago 1391 Posts Group: Members Member Since: June 2nd 2008 Location: Jordan, Minnesota, USA Current Sled: '76 Arctic Cat Pantera 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	I don't know, I lined up my dad's 580 against a 600 like that and it was close. Some clutching and gearing changes and the 580 would have won. '76 Pantera 5000 F/C Conversion MODS to come! Newer sled first! Dad's Sled: '94 580 EXT dropped two teeth Old doesn't necessarily mean slow!! Do what you can with what you got. Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 9:31 PM Post #12
	POLARISDOMINATOR ride to live live to ride POLARISDOMINATOR relationship issues!!! it wont matter when thers snow on the gorund and im not home where she can find me! Updated Monday at 11:13 PM 137 Posts Group: Members Member Since: August 17th 2009 Location: marinette, wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 95' Polaris Indy XCR 600
	damn got my hopes up haha ya i'll check them when i clean the carbs cause i hate doing both than i need i new fuel line going from my fuel pump to my fuel shut off switch 95 xcr 600 trip. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 9:37 PM  [ Modified August 25th 2009 at 9:38 PM ] Post #13
	XLT96rider Other sports play once a week, but this sport is with us every day. 942 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 7th 2009 Location: Wausau, Wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 1996 Polaris XLT Special 2008-2009 Miles: 1000+
	After you clean your carbs and check out and clean up the clutch, try syncing the carbs. I just got done with this and what a difference!! I had kind of a bog off idle too and now it's pretty snappy. Oh, the person with the most money wins!!! Rating: +1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 11:09 PM Post #14
	EarnhardtNorth Junior Member 166 Posts Group: Members Member Since: June 13th 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Current Sled: 1995 STORM 2008-2009 Miles: at a time
	Provided it's not too cold where you ride you can drop your pilot jets down a size. If the machine is running rich on idle it will take a bit to lean itself out and get running where it should (the bog). Factory jets, in my opinion, are always too rich. The jets are only a couple of bucks and easy to change. If you are going to drive her, you might as well drive her well tuned. As stated before, look into the condition of the clutch(s) as well. Clutching is to snowmobiling as location is to real-estate. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 25th 2009 at 11:16 PM Post #15
	srx_600 www.snowmobilehotspots.com srx_600 if its gonna be this warm i would rather have it be summer... Updated Thursday at 8:28 PM 2295 Posts Group: Members Member Since: April 29th 2007 Location: South Dakota, USA Current Sled: 2003 RMK 700 151 2008-2009 Miles: 1200
	I would just pull the carbs off and clean them, and while doing that check the jets, needles, ect. Not too hard to do and something that should be done on a yearly basis IMO. Rating: +1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 26th 2009 at 12:18 AM Post #16
	BV_Boondocker Holy s***! Thats a tree... 196 Posts Group: Members Member Since: March 8th 2009 Location: Bear Valley, CA, USA Current Sled: '99 Polaris RMK 700
	Clean your carbs, makes a world of difference on a polaris. it also wouldnt hurt to take a look at your reeds while your at it. "As I walk through the valley of death I fear no one, for I am the meanest motherf**ker in the valley!" -General George Patton Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 26th 2009 at 8:11 AM  [ Modified August 26th 2009 at 8:14 AM ] Post #17
	dodger WEDGE RIDER 1399 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 24th 2003 Location: Central, Michigan, USA
	clean and sync the carbs...... No reeds on a 95....Its a piston port engine 96 was the 1st XCR6 (aggressive chassis) with the reeds I've never had a ten But I've had 5 two's GARAGE FULL OF WEDGIES 1998 XC 700 1998 XC 600 1998 XCF 440 1997 SKS 700 2003 Pro X oops thats an "edgie" 1976 tx 340 1972 colt 340 1974 John Deere 400 Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 26th 2009 at 8:19 AM Post #18
	Ugly_old_Poo_kid techno-bumpkin 1077 Posts Group: Members Member Since: March 18th 2007 Location: Walworth, NY, USA Current Sled: 05 Edge & Frankenstorm II 2008-2009 Miles: 165
	Quote originally posted by tcm01024 It should not bog even if it's a triple. It may be slower off the line and take a little longer to hit the powerband but it should not actually bog. That's backwards... The triple should have more torque off the line than a twin. 95 - Storm 800 - Modded - AKA: FrankenStorm - Totalled near 100mph at Tug Hill! 96 - XLT/SP with Storm 800 trip/trip and now EFI - FrankenStorm II lives... 95 - RXL -- Sale Pending -- 05 - Edge 800 long track - Stayin' stock for now.. --------------------------------------------- It made me more compassionate, more empathetic, more nurturing... I FEEL LIKE I'M TRAPPED IN MY OWN WORST NIGHTMARE!!! Rating: -1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 26th 2009 at 1:52 PM Post #19
	white lightning "The AFTERBURNER" 608 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 23rd 2003 Location: New York, USA Current Sled: '01 XCR800 2008-2009 Miles: 400miles
	Twins usually have more punch off the line and then triples will have a longer legs across the lakes. Normally thats how it ended up. But when it comes to wrenching and tuning, its anybody's game. WL My neighbor used to say, " The speed that thrills, the speed that kills " Rating: +1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 26th 2009 at 8:36 PM Post #20
	Riley P.J.H. Racing Speed Consultant 1608 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 16th 2001 Location: Coon Rapids, MN, USA
	I would say clean and rebuild your clutches then put a new belt on and your problem will be solved. Riley PJH Racing Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 27th 2009 at 7:41 AM Post #21
	polaris1man Average Member 738 Posts Group: Members Member Since: December 22nd 2007 Location: Nashwauk, Minnesota, USA Current Sled: Polaris SKS700 2008-2009 Miles: not many
	I agree on the clutches, both should be cleaned and new belt. As for the carbs, a thorough cleaning and sync is required for what you are demanding out of the sled. I believe there is a thread somewhere buried deep in the archives about syncing in a carb; like a 5/32" drill bit, and a keen eye!! Three-1999 Polaris SKS700's 2000 Polaris SKS700 2000 Polaris Ranger 6x6 2007 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI X2 2000 Yamaha YZ 250 1996 Yamaha WR250 Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 27th 2009 at 4:33 PM Post #22
	stormrider62033 wally 4729 Posts Group: Members Member Since: December 25th 2004 Location: Gillespie, IL, USA Current Sled: 99xcr 800 2008-2009 Miles: 500
	yep clean clutchs get a 4500 rpm engagement and hold on mid Il alway's waiting for snow,moving north(way north)2001 thundercat 99xcr 800 97SPX ULTRA 96 zrt 600&800,92 doo plusX 92 v max 4 750 Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 29th 2009 at 9:47 PM Post #23
	Ramskye Junior Member 255 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 3rd 2007 Location: Coral Harbour, nunavut, Canada Current Sled: '08 600RR 2008-2009 Miles: unknown
	I remember back in 97 when a couple friends of mine were racing the other had a '96 XCR 600 piston port and the other had a '97 mxz 583 and both sleds were stock and fairly new. on take off the doo had a ski length ahead but the XCR would run away before the mid range track and by the time they hit the 660' line the XCR had a about 2 sled lengths lead so I really don't know how the ZR would fair against the XCR. would be nice how it turns out though let us know how it goes. 1992 RXL 650 EFI 1994 Sport 440 fan 1994 XLT 580 1998 XCR 600 2002 XC 600 sp 2004 PRO-XR 440 2007 Trail 550 Deluxe 2008 IQ 600 RR Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	August 29th 2009 at 11:45 PM Post #24
	POLARISDOMINATOR ride to live live to ride POLARISDOMINATOR relationship issues!!! it wont matter when thers snow on the gorund and im not home where she can find me! Updated Monday at 11:13 PM 137 Posts Group: Members Member Since: August 17th 2009 Location: marinette, wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 95' Polaris Indy XCR 600
	ya i think the weather has alot to do with the bogging but im not going to re-jet it just for summer but anyways i'll let you know how it goes. 95 xcr 600 trip. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	September 1st 2009 at 10:55 AM Post #25
	stormrider62033 wally 4729 Posts Group: Members Member Since: December 25th 2004 Location: Gillespie, IL, USA Current Sled: 99xcr 800 2008-2009 Miles: 500
	some thing is a little haywire ,I can get my ultra spx out or my xcr 800 and there is no bog even on grass mid Il alway's waiting for snow,moving north(way north)2001 thundercat 99xcr 800 97SPX ULTRA 96 zrt 600&800,92 doo plusX 92 v max 4 750 Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit