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STUD INSTALL
- its all done guys check it out!
started by shnill
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September 11th 2009 at 11:33 PM
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shnill
zomg its fast...
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166 Posts 
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Member Since: September 28th 2008
Location: greely, on, Canada
Current Sled: 2009 polaris IQ 800
2008-2009 Miles: About 800
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September 12th 2009 at 2:04 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 has to go through the snowmobile trailer....sleds will be north next weekend.
Updated Thursday at 1:45 PM
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12572 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Looks good. I know it's late but you should have done the tall nuts also.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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September 12th 2009 at 2:11 AM
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rsims16
Live By The Edge Of Your Seat
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776 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: July 11th 2007
Location: Canton, Mass, USA
Current Sled: 1991 Indy 650
2008-2009 Miles: 405miles
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It should hook up really good now. How long did it take you?
Family Forever Forever Family
My reputation grows with every failure- George Bernard Shaw
As you climb the ladder of success make sure it is leaning against the right building- H. Jackson Brown Jr.
The only book that has a sad ending is a check book
My sleds
1989 Phazer
1990 Phazer
1991 Indy 650
1995 XLT special
1997 Skidoo Mach 1 700
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September 12th 2009 at 8:28 AM
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Luke
Snowmofile
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903 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 27th 2005
Location: Rotterdam, NY, USA
Current Sled: 1998 XC 700
2008-2009 Miles: 410
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
Looks good. I know it's late but you should have done the tall nuts also.
Yeah, nice job.
But about the tall nuts, if u use them without double backers and catch something strong enough to break or bend the stud, itll pull through the track instead of breaking or bending. Id rather have a broken stud then a pull through. At least thats how I think about it.
1998 XC 700
SLP pipe, boost bottle, power packs, VForce, clutched, Ripsaw 1.25, M-10 susp, 2 in riser, handlebar hooks, third testicle, and good brakes.
"I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." - Thomas Alva Edison
Amsoil dealer
http://www.galushascottages.com
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September 12th 2009 at 8:34 AM
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TRICKPaint
Paint that's good for your cranium
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2511 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: May 25th 2006
Location: Mount Vernon, OH, USA
Current Sled: '05 Renegade 600 HO-SDI
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Looks good!
A+
 Looks like you got your backers on there nice and square. Glad you stayed with us and followed our advise in the end. You can ride in confidence that you did the right thing and they will last!
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September 12th 2009 at 9:05 AM
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shnill
zomg its fast...
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166 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: September 28th 2008
Location: greely, on, Canada
Current Sled: 2009 polaris IQ 800
2008-2009 Miles: About 800
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thanks guys - yeah id say 99% of the backers are square. took me about 3 hours id say maybe less -- went good though. I used my Milwaukee mini impact to tighten the nuts , that saved soooooo much time
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September 12th 2009 at 9:14 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 has to go through the snowmobile trailer....sleds will be north next weekend.
Updated Thursday at 1:45 PM
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12572 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Quote originally posted by Luke
Quote originally posted by xcr440
Looks good. I know it's late but you should have done the tall nuts also.
Yeah, nice job.
But about the tall nuts, if u use them without double backers and catch something strong enough to break or bend the stud, itll pull through the track instead of breaking or bending. Id rather have a broken stud then a pull through. At least thats how I think about it.
nuts are aluminum, so they will strip before that much pressure is applied.
I ride in the ****tiest trails for trail debeis and have never bent one. I am not saying it won't happen but it hasn't yet.
I have had some pull throughs do to over tightening and cutting of the track.
I also use plastic backers which are only tightened to around 20 in. lbs.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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September 12th 2009 at 9:19 AM
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Mad-Boondocker
Only way to take on FEAR is to take it head on
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751 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 19th 2009
Location: East Otto, NY, USA
Current Sled: 98 Polaris Indy 500 Mod
2008-2009 Miles: 185
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Is that track a ripsaw
1998 Polaris Indy 500 chassis with 98 Xc 600 motor
SLP ceramic coated pipe with SLP can
V-force reeds
4 inch pivot riser
Gutted Air Box
EPI clutch kit soon to be installed
Maybe some pro tapers
1998 XC 700 water-cross sled
SLP twin pipes
Some light weight parts
Water-cross mods include taking the parts u do not need
This includes removing the seat replacing gas tank and IFS bars.
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September 12th 2009 at 10:51 AM
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shnill
zomg its fast...
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166 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: September 28th 2008
Location: greely, on, Canada
Current Sled: 2009 polaris IQ 800
2008-2009 Miles: About 800
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this is my track http://www.camoplast.com/tracks/tracks/h...cksaw.html
and as for the over tightening - these studs have a stopper at the bottom of the stud so you cant over tighten them -
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September 12th 2009 at 12:53 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 has to go through the snowmobile trailer....sleds will be north next weekend.
Updated Thursday at 1:45 PM
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12572 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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All studs have the stopper on the bottom, thing is that over time the backers will cut a perfect hole through the track.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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September 12th 2009 at 2:21 PM
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shnill
zomg its fast...
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166 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: September 28th 2008
Location: greely, on, Canada
Current Sled: 2009 polaris IQ 800
2008-2009 Miles: About 800
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ahh no no i tighten them till they were flush with the track
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September 13th 2009 at 12:16 PM
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Pharotek
Junior Member
Pharotek is getting tired of his green lawn! Let it snow already!
Updated Tuesday at 10:29 PM
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213 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: July 6th 2009
Location: corning, new york, USA
Current Sled: 01 600 xcsp edgex
2008-2009 Miles: 447
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I was looking into this track for my sled but it seems like in deep snow it would just spin a lot. Doesn't seem to have much paddle action going on like the carve or ripsaw
98 Indy 500-Wife's
01 XCsp 600 edgex-current
96 formula lll 600-sold after droping a cylinder for the second time
95 Indy 440 50yrs anniversary-sold(miss this sled)
74 Polaris Electra 340-sold
69 Massey Ferguson Ski Whiz 440-sold(got for bday when i was 14)
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September 13th 2009 at 12:47 PM
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shnill
zomg its fast...
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166 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: September 28th 2008
Location: greely, on, Canada
Current Sled: 2009 polaris IQ 800
2008-2009 Miles: About 800
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ive been in deeeeeep powder with it -- works great, it really surfs
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September 13th 2009 at 6:48 PM
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FUSION900PA
Average Member
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942 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: October 20th 2005
Location: Edinburg, PA, USA
Current Sled: SNOW CHECK 09 D8 SP
2008-2009 Miles: 1100
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HOw many scratch lines does that pattern have? If you used the woody's universal template i'm assuming 18.
"If you ain't first, you're last" Ricky Bobby
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September 13th 2009 at 10:33 PM
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shnill
zomg its fast...
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166 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: September 28th 2008
Location: greely, on, Canada
Current Sled: 2009 polaris IQ 800
2008-2009 Miles: About 800
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September 14th 2009 at 6:36 AM
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Luke
Snowmofile
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903 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 27th 2005
Location: Rotterdam, NY, USA
Current Sled: 1998 XC 700
2008-2009 Miles: 410
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
Quote originally posted by Luke
Quote originally posted by xcr440
Looks good. I know it's late but you should have done the tall nuts also.
Yeah, nice job.
But about the tall nuts, if u use them without double backers and catch something strong enough to break or bend the stud, itll pull through the track instead of breaking or bending. Id rather have a broken stud then a pull through. At least thats how I think about it.
nuts are aluminum, so they will strip before that much pressure is applied.
I ride in the ****tiest trails for trail debeis and have never bent one. I am not saying it won't happen but it hasn't yet.
I have had some pull throughs do to over tightening and cutting of the track.
I also use plastic backers which are only tightened to around 20 in. lbs.
I wasnt talking about when your tightening them. I was referring to while youre riding, if you catch a root or a rock with the stud, it has a greater chance of pulling through instead of breaking or bending. But with double backers you will minimize the chances of a pull through in this situation.
1998 XC 700
SLP pipe, boost bottle, power packs, VForce, clutched, Ripsaw 1.25, M-10 susp, 2 in riser, handlebar hooks, third testicle, and good brakes.
"I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." - Thomas Alva Edison
Amsoil dealer
http://www.galushascottages.com
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September 14th 2009 at 7:50 AM
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TRICKPaint
Paint that's good for your cranium
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2511 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: May 25th 2006
Location: Mount Vernon, OH, USA
Current Sled: '05 Renegade 600 HO-SDI
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Quote originally posted by shnill
ahh no no i tighten them till they were flush with the track
There should be an amount foot pounds it calls for them to be torqued to. I used a torque wrench to tighten all of mine. I think it was 14Lbs. for mine? I could be wrong on that #, but there should be a torque spec. they recomend, just the same.
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September 14th 2009 at 2:17 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 has to go through the snowmobile trailer....sleds will be north next weekend.
Updated Thursday at 1:45 PM
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12572 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Quote originally posted by Luke
Quote originally posted by xcr440
Quote originally posted by Luke
Quote originally posted by xcr440
Looks good. I know it's late but you should have done the tall nuts also.
Yeah, nice job.
But about the tall nuts, if u use them without double backers and catch something strong enough to break or bend the stud, itll pull through the track instead of breaking or bending. Id rather have a broken stud then a pull through. At least thats how I think about it.
nuts are aluminum, so they will strip before that much pressure is applied.
I ride in the ****tiest trails for trail debeis and have never bent one. I am not saying it won't happen but it hasn't yet.
I have had some pull throughs do to over tightening and cutting of the track.
I also use plastic backers which are only tightened to around 20 in. lbs.
I wasnt talking about when your tightening them. I was referring to while youre riding, if you catch a root or a rock with the stud, it has a greater chance of pulling through instead of breaking or bending. But with double backers you will minimize the chances of a pull through in this situation.
So was I. Good luck breaking any stud now a days, they will bend flat/stretch before breaking.
another reason to use plastic backers, they will break before wrecking a track.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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September 14th 2009 at 3:37 PM
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FUSION900PA
Average Member
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942 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: October 20th 2005
Location: Edinburg, PA, USA
Current Sled: SNOW CHECK 09 D8 SP
2008-2009 Miles: 1100
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That pattern with the template used will only give you 12 scratch lines. The woody's template i used is set up for 18 scratch lines.
"If you ain't first, you're last" Ricky Bobby
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September 14th 2009 at 4:07 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 has to go through the snowmobile trailer....sleds will be north next weekend.
Updated Thursday at 1:45 PM
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12572 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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anyone know what a stud boys template gives for lines?
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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September 15th 2009 at 6:58 AM
[ Modified September 15th 2009 at 7:01 AM
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FUSION900PA
Average Member
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942 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: October 20th 2005
Location: Edinburg, PA, USA
Current Sled: SNOW CHECK 09 D8 SP
2008-2009 Miles: 1100
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I just finished studding my sled with studboys studs but i bought a woody's universal because it has 18 scratch lines where as the studboy has only 12. There a few woody's timplates out there but look for the template that covers over 6 pitches instead of only 4.
This is with my 121" using 144 studs.
Quote originally posted by xcr440
anyone know what a stud boys template gives for lines?
"If you ain't first, you're last" Ricky Bobby
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