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Western Conversion
- Mods needed before going west.
started by kingofkings
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September 20th 2009 at 8:45 AM
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Mad-Boondocker
Only way to take on FEAR is to take it head on
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Member Since: February 19th 2009
Location: East Otto, NY, USA
Current Sled: 98 Polaris Indy 500 Mod
2008-2009 Miles: 185
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Yea you really do not need a newspaper of mods to go riding a few minor things here and there should really help
1998 Polaris Indy 500 chassis with 98 Xc 600 motor
SLP ceramic coated pipe with SLP can
V-force reeds
4 inch pivot riser
Gutted Air Box
EPI clutch kit soon to be installed
Maybe some pro tapers
1998 XC 700 water-cross sled
SLP twin pipes
Some light weight parts
Water-cross mods include taking the parts u do not need
This includes removing the seat replacing gas tank and IFS bars.
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September 20th 2009 at 8:54 AM
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xtralettucetomatoe580
Tan Berets lead the way
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2419 Posts 
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Member Since: October 4th 2005
Location: Hunter Army Airfield, GA, USA
Current Sled: C17, C130, UH, CH, Lil's
2008-2009 Miles: 950
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Quote originally posted by Mad-Boondocker
Yea you really do not need a newspaper of mods to go riding a few minor things here and there should really help
Have you ever been out West?
Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Rangers. Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move further, faster and fight harder than any other soldier. Never shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it may be, one-hundred-percent and then some. Gallantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well-trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow. Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country. I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country. Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor. Rangers Lead The Way!.."All the way!" <<<<<1st Bat, 75th>>>>>
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September 20th 2009 at 9:04 AM
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Mad-Boondocker
Only way to take on FEAR is to take it head on
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751 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 19th 2009
Location: East Otto, NY, USA
Current Sled: 98 Polaris Indy 500 Mod
2008-2009 Miles: 185
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No but i have been in the mountains of Canada before and I rented a stock 03 RMK and I think it did just fine compared to a Fusion 900 that my brother rented
1998 Polaris Indy 500 chassis with 98 Xc 600 motor
SLP ceramic coated pipe with SLP can
V-force reeds
4 inch pivot riser
Gutted Air Box
EPI clutch kit soon to be installed
Maybe some pro tapers
1998 XC 700 water-cross sled
SLP twin pipes
Some light weight parts
Water-cross mods include taking the parts u do not need
This includes removing the seat replacing gas tank and IFS bars.
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September 20th 2009 at 9:24 AM
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xtralettucetomatoe580
Tan Berets lead the way
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2419 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: October 4th 2005
Location: Hunter Army Airfield, GA, USA
Current Sled: C17, C130, UH, CH, Lil's
2008-2009 Miles: 950
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Quote originally posted by Mad-Boondocker
No but i have been in the mountains of Canada before and I rented a stock 03 RMK and I think it did just fine compared to a Fusion 900 that my brother rented
Doesn't count. Those are not mountains. Until you have been out West, all is hear say.
Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Rangers. Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move further, faster and fight harder than any other soldier. Never shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it may be, one-hundred-percent and then some. Gallantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well-trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow. Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country. I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country. Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor. Rangers Lead The Way!.."All the way!" <<<<<1st Bat, 75th>>>>>
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September 20th 2009 at 9:40 AM
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Mad-Boondocker
Only way to take on FEAR is to take it head on
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751 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 19th 2009
Location: East Otto, NY, USA
Current Sled: 98 Polaris Indy 500 Mod
2008-2009 Miles: 185
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I want to go out west because I love mountains and I hear once you been out there u never go back to mountains any where else
1998 Polaris Indy 500 chassis with 98 Xc 600 motor
SLP ceramic coated pipe with SLP can
V-force reeds
4 inch pivot riser
Gutted Air Box
EPI clutch kit soon to be installed
Maybe some pro tapers
1998 XC 700 water-cross sled
SLP twin pipes
Some light weight parts
Water-cross mods include taking the parts u do not need
This includes removing the seat replacing gas tank and IFS bars.
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September 20th 2009 at 8:30 PM
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roughrider99
Its not turbo lag, its foreplay
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1411 Posts 
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Member Since: March 11th 2006
Location: Consul, Saskatchewan, Canada
Current Sled: 06 Lite Apex MTX
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Quote originally posted by xtralettucetomatoe580
Doesn't count. Those are not mountains. Until you have been out West, all is hear say.
i am gonna assume that was sarcasm. correct?
i ride where its steep n' deep :P
06 apex mtn
excell mtn lite exhaust, fox floats on the front, Timbersled lightweight drop brackets
mtn mod seat, timbersled barkbuster front and mtn tamer rear suspensions,simmons gen 2 skis
MMP freedom axle with (3) 9 in. blaze billet wheels,Gravity worx billet lefty throttle, Cr Racing 9" risers
162 2.5 Camo Xtreme track
YAMAHA BABY!
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September 20th 2009 at 8:31 PM
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Quote originally posted by xtralettucetomatoe580
Quote originally posted by Mad-Boondocker
No but i have been in the mountains of Canada before and I rented a stock 03 RMK and I think it did just fine compared to a Fusion 900 that my brother rented
Doesn't count. Those are not mountains. Until you have been out West, all is hear say.
What do you mean the mountains of Canada don't count?
Fix it till its broke!
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September 20th 2009 at 9:52 PM
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SXMTX
Junior Member
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123 Posts 
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Member Since: June 28th 2009
Location: houlton, WI, USA
Current Sled: Sx convert to mm
2008-2009 Miles: 649
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Quote originally posted by TeamNFG
Quote originally posted by SXMTX
Dont bother if your not going to extend your track you wont make it anywere. But if you were going to do some old guy trail riding then go ahead with what you got just rejet.
You obviously know nothing about mountain riding, why should this person spend up to $2000 on a long track just to go and ride the mountians one trip
You know at one time a 121 track was the 2nd longest track avalible, and yes they went to the mountians, the sleds heavier and with less power than his Cat
The most constructive thing you could have suggested was to rent a sled, but you think a rejet is all that is needed! good one 
I was meaning get a longer track if hes going off trail otherwise hes fine on trails.didnt meen to be an ass jeez
Also i know alot about mountain riding dick head. Considering thats all i do.
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SXMTX- Wow, for 15 years old you must a wealth of knowledge about the mountains and riding; false. You drive out their yourself and do all your riding there? Oh wait, you can't drive, which means your probably stuck to riding the patch of grass in front of your house waiting for your parents to come home so you can ask them. Grow up, and when you have something informative to post, then type.
King of Kings- You will be fine if ride a lot of trail or poach tracks that have been ridden over a few times. Don't expect to break trail or go too far. What you will learn is that your gonna be much more tired than those with longer tracks and that you will really need to put some body english into your sled to make it do half the stuff a mountain sled can do. Make sure you never park up hill even at the slightest degree, it might be a good idea for you to park down hill unless your on hardpack. Two, take your time when your out there to get used to the difference in elevation. You wont be able to breathe as well as usual. Three, really learn to work your throttle, dont bury yourself out there by pinning it all the time or your gonna be stuck at all times.
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I guess its not possible for someone to have a cabin out west and also maybe i just go with a few people
1999 sx 600 MM suspension
cobra windshield challenger 141 track
bender race can slp skis,billet gas cap,billet recoil handle.
Big bore kit from hauck 160 horses
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September 20th 2009 at 11:46 PM
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roughrider99
Its not turbo lag, its foreplay
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1411 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 11th 2006
Location: Consul, Saskatchewan, Canada
Current Sled: 06 Lite Apex MTX
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just a constructive question for ya sxmtx, but what makes you think you know ALOT about mtn riding other than the fact that you ride there, cause your replies seem to prove otherwise.
i ride where its steep n' deep :P
06 apex mtn
excell mtn lite exhaust, fox floats on the front, Timbersled lightweight drop brackets
mtn mod seat, timbersled barkbuster front and mtn tamer rear suspensions,simmons gen 2 skis
MMP freedom axle with (3) 9 in. blaze billet wheels,Gravity worx billet lefty throttle, Cr Racing 9" risers
162 2.5 Camo Xtreme track
YAMAHA BABY!
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September 21st 2009 at 12:00 AM
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ACG
Sell-Out - Moderator
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9086 Posts 
Group: Moderators
Member Since: October 29th 2001
Location: Bountiful, UT, USA
Current Sled: 2009 Dragon 800
2008-2009 Miles: 1500
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Oh yeah. And besides the avalanche aspect I wouldn't bother with a shovel especially with a 121. I have to be damn stuck withy 163 to bother getting my shovel out. Just roll it over out of it's hole and you'll save alot of work.
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September 21st 2009 at 12:41 AM
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xtralettucetomatoe580
Tan Berets lead the way
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2419 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: October 4th 2005
Location: Hunter Army Airfield, GA, USA
Current Sled: C17, C130, UH, CH, Lil's
2008-2009 Miles: 950
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Quote originally posted by TeamNFG
Quote originally posted by xtralettucetomatoe580
Quote originally posted by Mad-Boondocker
No but i have been in the mountains of Canada before and I rented a stock 03 RMK and I think it did just fine compared to a Fusion 900 that my brother rented
Doesn't count. Those are not mountains. Until you have been out West, all is hear say.
What do you mean the mountains of Canada don't count?
The non Rocky ones...
Recognizing that I volunteered as a Ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of the Rangers. Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move further, faster and fight harder than any other soldier. Never shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it may be, one-hundred-percent and then some. Gallantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well-trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow. Energetically will I meet the enemies of my country. I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a Ranger word. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country. Readily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the Ranger objective and complete the mission though I be the lone survivor. Rangers Lead The Way!.."All the way!" <<<<<1st Bat, 75th>>>>>
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September 21st 2009 at 7:11 AM
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SXMTX
Junior Member
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123 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: June 28th 2009
Location: houlton, WI, USA
Current Sled: Sx convert to mm
2008-2009 Miles: 649
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Quote originally posted by roughrider99
just a constructive question for ya sxmtx, but what makes you think you know ALOT about mtn riding other than the fact that you ride there, cause your replies seem to prove otherwise.
I dont know alot never meant that
1999 sx 600 MM suspension
cobra windshield challenger 141 track
bender race can slp skis,billet gas cap,billet recoil handle.
Big bore kit from hauck 160 horses
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September 21st 2009 at 7:24 AM
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snowdad4
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Location: wa, USA
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take it from someone who only rides mountains: buy yourself a "snobunji". it will save alot of energy getting unstuck.
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September 21st 2009 at 9:27 AM
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srx_600
www.snowmobilehotspots.com
srx_600 if its gonna be this warm i would rather have it be summer...
Updated Thursday at 8:28 PM
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Member Since: April 29th 2007
Location: South Dakota, USA
Current Sled: 2003 RMK 700 151
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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You can tell everyone is ready for snow in this thread!
If you and your dad dont want to rent and want to ride your short tracks i would just go to the Black Hills. We go there every year and find plenty of snow pack, meadows, hills, boondocking, you name it. You can also take a short track to 85 percent of places out there. Granted you wont be climbing the hills like the long tracks and you really gotta be working hard to keep track spin to a minimum and momentum going its a good time out there.
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September 21st 2009 at 4:35 PM
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700wildcat
Official Heat Hater.
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158 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 2nd 2009
Location: Hazelton, North Dakota, USA
Current Sled: '08 Arctic Cat M8 153"
2008-2009 Miles: 1100
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Hmmm... I think kingofkings got more than enough information off this thread. Definitely interesting to read though.
2008 Arctic cat M8 153''Stock >current
1996 Arctic cat Wildcat 700 136x2x15 challenger finger track, 3'' riser, Powermadd mountain bar.sold
1980 Arctic cat Jag 3000. sold
Dad's
2003 Arctic Cat Mountain cat 800 144''.
1999 Arctic Cat Powder Special 500. sold
2000 Polaris Indy 550 Trail.
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September 21st 2009 at 4:54 PM
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Mad-Boondocker
Only way to take on FEAR is to take it head on
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751 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 19th 2009
Location: East Otto, NY, USA
Current Sled: 98 Polaris Indy 500 Mod
2008-2009 Miles: 185
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Quote originally posted by TeamNFG
Quote originally posted by xtralettucetomatoe580
Quote originally posted by Mad-Boondocker
No but i have been in the mountains of Canada before and I rented a stock 03 RMK and I think it did just fine compared to a Fusion 900 that my brother rented
Doesn't count. Those are not mountains. Until you have been out West, all is hear say.
What do you mean the mountains of Canada don't count?
Has any body rode in White whistler Bc because I thought the mountains there were sick
1998 Polaris Indy 500 chassis with 98 Xc 600 motor
SLP ceramic coated pipe with SLP can
V-force reeds
4 inch pivot riser
Gutted Air Box
EPI clutch kit soon to be installed
Maybe some pro tapers
1998 XC 700 water-cross sled
SLP twin pipes
Some light weight parts
Water-cross mods include taking the parts u do not need
This includes removing the seat replacing gas tank and IFS bars.
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September 21st 2009 at 7:38 PM
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kingofkings
argueing with idiots
kingofkings .
Updated Yesterday at 6:33 AM
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Group: Members
Member Since: August 19th 2008
Location: Little Falls, MN, USA
Current Sled: 1998 ZL 500
2008-2009 Miles: 700+
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thanks for the info and a lot of sarcastic remarks. If we do go and it's a big IF, I will consider renting a mountain sled the last day but I don't want to go overbore here. Just some simple adjustment will do for me. I have ridden my sled long enough to know what it takes to keep her afloat. Another question, about how high can I go with a handle bar riser without cable extentions or is that a must for all riser heights.
-To ride or not to ride, what a stupid question!
-You should never judge a guy until you have walked a mile in his shoes, then you are a mile away and have his shoes
-Ice, snow, or grass, I'll still kick your ass.
-"And when he gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, one more soldier reporting Sir I have served my time in Hell"
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September 21st 2009 at 8:31 PM
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srx_600
www.snowmobilehotspots.com
srx_600 if its gonna be this warm i would rather have it be summer...
Updated Thursday at 8:28 PM
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2295 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: April 29th 2007
Location: South Dakota, USA
Current Sled: 2003 RMK 700 151
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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Studentdriver should know for sure, but i believe you can go up to 4 inches?
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September 22nd 2009 at 12:27 AM
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roughrider99
Its not turbo lag, its foreplay
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1411 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 11th 2006
Location: Consul, Saskatchewan, Canada
Current Sled: 06 Lite Apex MTX
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Quote originally posted by kingofkings
but I don't want to go overbore here.
don;t go overbore, go bigbore!
i ride where its steep n' deep :P
06 apex mtn
excell mtn lite exhaust, fox floats on the front, Timbersled lightweight drop brackets
mtn mod seat, timbersled barkbuster front and mtn tamer rear suspensions,simmons gen 2 skis
MMP freedom axle with (3) 9 in. blaze billet wheels,Gravity worx billet lefty throttle, Cr Racing 9" risers
162 2.5 Camo Xtreme track
YAMAHA BABY!
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September 22nd 2009 at 8:06 PM
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Quote originally posted by Mad-Boondocker
Quote originally posted by TeamNFG
Quote originally posted by xtralettucetomatoe580
Quote originally posted by Mad-Boondocker
No but i have been in the mountains of Canada before and I rented a stock 03 RMK and I think it did just fine compared to a Fusion 900 that my brother rented
Doesn't count. Those are not mountains. Until you have been out West, all is hear say.
What do you mean the mountains of Canada don't count?
Has any body rode in White whistler Bc because I thought the mountains there were sick
I've heard of riding out there, but it is a 10 hour plus drive for me, to far, but almost any area in BC is good, these pictures are from Radium
Fix it till its broke!
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September 22nd 2009 at 11:29 PM
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shortstop20
I NEED SNOW!!!!
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Group: Members
Member Since: August 9th 2004
Location: Stickney, SD, USA
Current Sled: '09 Summit XP 800R 154" X
2008-2009 Miles: 400
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Quote originally posted by ACG
Oh yeah. And besides the avalanche aspect I wouldn't bother with a shovel especially with a 121. I have to be damn stuck withy 163 to bother getting my shovel out. Just roll it over out of it's hole and you'll save alot of work.
Amen to that.
2009 Ski-Doo Summit XP 800 154" X package - Quick Clickers, Between the Lines Designs Ice Scratchers, Tunnel & Rail Stiffeners
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October 20th 2009 at 8:48 PM
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snopro_ac
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Quote originally posted by snowdad4
take it from someone who only rides mountains: buy yourself a "snobunji". it will save alot of energy getting unstuck.
i rode a 99 zr 600 efi out west short track and 7/8", it did all right, couldn't climb with the long tracks but still had fun doing what i could, deep snow was ok, one thing i would really say is once you jetted it correctly (assuming carb), i'd really pay attention to clutching, i had the recommended weights in but i should have adjusted my secondary a hole, it would have been a little better, lost power towards the top of the hill. the quote from above is absoletly correct, take a snobunji they work wonders on level ground, shovel for digging off a side hill. even if all you do is ride trails out there, it is a neat place to see, but the more you get off the trails the more you'll see. have fun
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October 21st 2009 at 2:14 PM
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kingofkings
argueing with idiots
kingofkings .
Updated Yesterday at 6:33 AM
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Member Since: August 19th 2008
Location: Little Falls, MN, USA
Current Sled: 1998 ZL 500
2008-2009 Miles: 700+
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^^^Thanks, it is carbed and I don't plan on climbing steep grades. Going to mostly ride trail and some off trail. I am reclutching, rejeting, and possibly regear along with a riser. I also put on a 1 3/8" track.
-To ride or not to ride, what a stupid question!
-You should never judge a guy until you have walked a mile in his shoes, then you are a mile away and have his shoes
-Ice, snow, or grass, I'll still kick your ass.
-"And when he gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, one more soldier reporting Sir I have served my time in Hell"
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October 22nd 2009 at 6:25 PM
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triplefever
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Location: saginaw, michigan
Current Sled: 1999 zr600 snopro
2008-2009 Miles: 3049
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Quote originally posted by kingofkings
thanks for the info and a lot of sarcastic remarks. If we do go and it's a big IF, I will consider renting a mountain sled the last day but I don't want to go overbore here. Just some simple adjustment will do for me. I have ridden my sled long enough to know what it takes to keep her afloat. Another question, about how high can I go with a handle bar riser without cable extentions or is that a must for all riser heights.
on my old 98 zl 500 i put a 8in riser with out cable extentions i just rerouted the cable and brake line
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October 22nd 2009 at 7:58 PM
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ValdezRider
Living the Alaskan Dream
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Member Since: October 10th 2008
Location: Valdez, Alaska, USA
Current Sled: 05 Yamaha Vector mountain
2008-2009 Miles: 320
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Clutch settings are as important as jetting. Look in your manual for the set up for the altitude you think you will be. We rode many years on 121 inch CLEATED tracks with less than 40 hp. Get stuck, get out, have fun. I agree with what ZR6000cce has to say.
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