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comp ramp
- heres some photos of the ramp me and my buddy built for this winter. tell me what you think.
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September 21st 2009 at 10:17 PM
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just make sjure someone has the video camera out the first couple times you hit it.
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September 21st 2009 at 10:55 PM
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jonny_little94
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Quote originally posted by wilb
just make sjure someone has the video camera out the first couple times you hit it.
haha thanks for the concern about me. i know all you want to see is the crash..
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September 22nd 2009 at 1:17 AM
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i have built a few steel comp ramps for my buddys compound. I can tell you right now for the angle that ramp is you need the ramp to be way longer, your not gonna launch properly cause your suspension won;t compress and rebound smoothly. keep your angle but incoporate about another 10ft in that ramp will make load forces much better on the ramp also, its not gonna flip on ya when you hit it.
you can build a steel ramp frame for a reasonable price. as long as you got somebody who can make good welds you don;t need lots of material and less material means less cost. spend the minor extra buck for steel and you save yourself the money spent on fixing a totaled sled from tryin to hit that wooden one.
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September 22nd 2009 at 1:23 PM
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jonny_little94
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Quote originally posted by roughrider99
i have built a few steel comp ramps for my buddys compound. I can tell you right now for the angle that ramp is you need the ramp to be way longer, your not gonna launch properly cause your suspension won;t compress and rebound smoothly. keep your angle but incoporate about another 10ft in that ramp will make load forces much better on the ramp also, its not gonna flip on ya when you hit it.
you can build a steel ramp frame for a reasonable price. as long as you got somebody who can make good welds you don;t need lots of material and less material means less cost. spend the minor extra buck for steel and you save yourself the money spent on fixing a totaled sled from tryin to hit that wooden one.
first of all. the angle of the ramp is 42 degrees at the top. just like every other comp ramp. and they are the exact comp ramp plans so theirs nothin wrong with the angle.. and the way we got this idea is from here on snowmobile fanatics. some guy built one a few years ago and he said its worked fine for him for all these years without any problems whatsoever.
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September 22nd 2009 at 1:33 PM
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Zippi
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i would hit an all wood ramp all day long...with an RC car! I would at least put quite a few more braces in there, screws not nails, and it prob wont last too long anyway.
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September 22nd 2009 at 2:22 PM
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jonny_little94
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Quote originally posted by Zippi
i would hit an all wood ramp all day long...with an RC car! I would at least put quite a few more braces in there, screws not nails, and it prob wont last too long anyway.
dont worry. were using 2 3/4 and 3 1/8th inch screws. and i doubled up most of the side peices and put a bunch more bracing in it.
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September 22nd 2009 at 2:58 PM
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I hope your building that in the spot you plan on jumping it from, because by the time you add the amount of bracing you'll need that thing is going to weigh a ton, and like mentioned before is going to weaken when you try and move it..
I hope you have a michelin man suit..
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September 22nd 2009 at 7:18 PM
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everything looks fine angle/design wise with that ramp as long as its built to the scs comp ramp specs. SHould be approx 7 ft tall and 20-22 ft long. 40 degrees is not that severe its actually pretty mellow. It is still intimidating for the first hit.
Quote originally posted by roughrider99
I can tell you right now for the angle that ramp is you need the ramp to be way longer, your not gonna launch properly cause your suspension won;t compress and rebound smoothly. keep your angle but incoporate about another 10ft in that ramp will make load forces much better on the ramp also, its not gonna flip on ya when you hit it.
The plans are proven, it wont flip over. u dont have to hit these ramps as fast as you would think. Brace that thing a ton and keep a close eye on it. Just start small, and make sure you have a safe landing! build it atleast 10ft tall by 40ft long.
heres some pics of our ramps/landing to show how big landings should be compared to ur ramp.
-superkicker (2 ft taller, 10 degrees steeper)
-superkicker left, comp on the right note landing size.
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September 22nd 2009 at 7:59 PM
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jonny_little94
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Quote originally posted by sedz
everything looks fine angle/design wise with that ramp as long as its built to the scs comp ramp specs. SHould be approx 7 ft tall and 20-22 ft long. 40 degrees is not that severe its actually pretty mellow. It is still intimidating for the first hit.
Quote originally posted by roughrider99
I can tell you right now for the angle that ramp is you need the ramp to be way longer, your not gonna launch properly cause your suspension won;t compress and rebound smoothly. keep your angle but incoporate about another 10ft in that ramp will make load forces much better on the ramp also, its not gonna flip on ya when you hit it.
The plans are proven, it wont flip over. u dont have to hit these ramps as fast as you would think. Brace that thing a ton and keep a close eye on it. Just start small, and make sure you have a safe landing! build it atleast 10ft tall by 40ft long.
heres some pics of our ramps/landing to show how big landings should be compared to ur ramp.
-superkicker (2 ft taller, 10 degrees steeper)
-superkicker left, comp on the right note landing size.
your the first person to actually have faith in the ramp. haha but thanks for the pics and information. my buddy and i have hit some prettyy good size snow jumps and we figured it was time to take it to the next level.
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September 22nd 2009 at 8:29 PM
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September 22nd 2009 at 9:27 PM
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I never knew SF had so many ramp experts...... Looks good man
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September 22nd 2009 at 9:32 PM
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Quote originally posted by TMAN
I never knew SF had so many ramp experts...
It's the ones who have never gone off a ramp whom are the true experts! 
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September 22nd 2009 at 9:48 PM
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jonny_little94
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Quote originally posted by Quinlan
Quote originally posted by TMAN
I never knew SF had so many ramp experts...
It's the ones who have never gone off a ramp whom are the true experts!
are you trying to insult me quinlan!? haha cause if i were you.. id keep my mouth shut!
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September 22nd 2009 at 10:02 PM
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Quinlan
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Quote originally posted by jonny_little94 are you trying to insult me quinlan!? haha cause if i were you.. id keep my mouth shut! Nope, or at least not consciously. I was making cracks at people who reply to a subject they have no true experience in. ie. never gone off a comp style ramp. Alot of people here have never had such a privilege. And why should I keep my mouth shut? I've launched my sled multiple times...both my SnoPro and ZR actually. I was being highly sarcastic in my initial post saying I had never hit a ramp before!
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September 22nd 2009 at 10:15 PM
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jonny_little94
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Quote originally posted by Quinlan
Quote originally posted by jonny_little94
are you trying to insult me quinlan!? haha cause if i were you.. id keep my mouth shut!
Nope, or at least not consciously. I was making cracks at people who reply to a subject they have no true experience in. ie. never gone off a comp style ramp. Alot of people here have never had such a privilege.
And why should I keep my mouth shut? I've launched my sled multiple times...both my SnoPro and ZR actually. I was being highly sarcastic in my initial post saying I had never hit a ramp before!
haha alright. as long as you werent insulting me. ive also lanched my sled alot. i jumped my 9 year old mxzx 440 65 ft. and i can do a heelclicker on my dirtbike. along with a few other tricks. so dont try to insult me. 
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September 22nd 2009 at 10:43 PM
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Quote originally posted by Quinlan
Nope, or at least not consciously. I was making cracks at people who reply to a subject they have no true experience in. ie. never gone off a comp style ramp.
Ditto 
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September 25th 2009 at 9:02 AM
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Anyone saying that ramp is too steep or the wrong angle doesn't know WTF they're talking about. If you know the difference between the couple of popular ramp designs, you can tell that it's a comp ramp profile, which is perfect for your first ramp. A super kicker is a lot steeper and it's pretty much the standard for freestyle comps & demos. The most important thing is being able to build a big enough landing.
I'm a little unsure about the wood, but hopefully it's sturdy and lasts at least a season for these guys.
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September 25th 2009 at 1:33 PM
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If you cant afford steel, I'd try to get some iron plating, or even some rebar and mount it to the main frame supports ( like the front, back, and middle boards ), just for ensured strength. Iron or rebar wont cost you that much and will be worth it.
I think it looks pretty good
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September 25th 2009 at 1:34 PM
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Quote originally posted by jonny_little94
Quote originally posted by Zippi
i would hit an all wood ramp all day long...with an RC car! I would at least put quite a few more braces in there, screws not nails, and it prob wont last too long anyway.
dont worry. were using 2 3/4 and 3 1/8th inch screws. and i doubled up most of the side peices and put a bunch more bracing in it.
If those are deck screws you are using, make sure you check them OFTEN!! They are made to hold wood horizontal. They hold up great when pressure on them runs in the same direction but when you have side pressure, they snap very easily.
Hope you meant lag screws.
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September 25th 2009 at 4:53 PM
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Quote originally posted by driftjumper
Anyone saying that ramp is too steep or the wrong angle doesn't know WTF they're talking about. If you know the difference between the couple of popular ramp designs, you can tell that it's a comp ramp profile, which is perfect for your first ramp. A super kicker is a lot steeper and it's pretty much the standard for freestyle comps & demos. The most important thing is being able to build a big enough landing.
I'm a little unsure about the wood, but hopefully it's sturdy and lasts at least a season for these guys.
I think its just the wood that makes the angle look so steep, ya know? Used to seeing a smaller metal tubing, then a 4" piece of wood, its just more material to look at. Hope it works out for 'em.
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September 25th 2009 at 5:29 PM
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September 26th 2009 at 3:07 PM
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jonny_little94
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Quote originally posted by picman
Quote originally posted by jonny_little94
Quote originally posted by Zippi
i would hit an all wood ramp all day long...with an RC car! I would at least put quite a few more braces in there, screws not nails, and it prob wont last too long anyway.
dont worry. were using 2 3/4 and 3 1/8th inch screws. and i doubled up most of the side peices and put a bunch more bracing in it.
If those are deck screws you are using, make sure you check them OFTEN!! They are made to hold wood horizontal. They hold up great when pressure on them runs in the same direction but when you have side pressure, they snap very easily.
Hope you meant lag screws.
they arent decking screws. but on all the joints and spots that will be taking most of the pressure has a 2x4 going from it to the bottom of the frame. so the screws arent really taking much of the pressure. here is just another pic of the ramp. we put 3 sheets of plywood on so far.  ramp with plywood on it.
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September 26th 2009 at 3:29 PM
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KyleM800
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I'm no ramp expert but i would think you still need more bracing.
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October 4th 2009 at 12:18 PM
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Yeah dude I have a wooden ramp in my backyard they work pretty good. After the first season you may want to put some more decking on it though. In my opinion you may want to add some more bracing. If you want to really learn how to ramp take a trip up to the evo sled park this year.
Two pic's of my first time hitting the comp ramp up at the evo sled park.
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October 5th 2009 at 6:54 PM
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jonny_little94
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Quote originally posted by v-maxsledder
Yeah dude I have a wooden ramp in my backyard they work pretty good. After the first season you may want to put some more decking on it though. In my opinion you may want to add some more bracing. If you want to really learn how to ramp take a trip up to the evo sled park this year.
Two pic's of my first time hitting the comp ramp up at the evo sled park.
we still might put some more bracing on. and we might go to evo this year. were not quite sure yet.
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