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PERC on 02
started by Craig_Polaris
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October 3rd 2009 at 10:01 PM
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Craig_Polaris
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147 Posts 
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Member Since: November 11th 2008
Location: Derry, New Hampshire, USA
Current Sled: 2002 Edge X 800
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Is it possible to put the PERC on an 02 edge 800?
2002 Edge x 800; Recently swallowed a valve so, New wiseco pistons, rings, pins, circlips, renikisil cylinders, and updated lower end bearings.
- Slp single Pipe and Can
- Vforce3 Reeds
- Slp air horn and gutted box
- 140/310 Slp primary spring
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October 3rd 2009 at 10:13 PM
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Zippi
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yes, very possible! buy the kit, change the clutch, oil pump and cdi...jump one wire on the voltage regulator and you're good to go. takes a couple hours but fairly simple.
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October 3rd 2009 at 10:31 PM
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sledfreak139
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Location: Derry, NH, USA
Current Sled: 05 Polaris Switchback 600
2008-2009 Miles: 400
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All the kits on ebay say they only work on 2003's... Where can he find the kit for an 02??
2005 Polaris Switchback 600: SlyDog PowderHound Ski's, SLP Air Box Mod, V-Force 3 Reeds, 144" track fully studded, Powermadd Pivot Riser and 4" block, Polaris Hand guards,
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October 3rd 2009 at 11:06 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 has to go through the snowmobile trailer....sleds will be north next weekend.
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Don't think there was a kit of 02's If I remember right the 02's need the team or polaris roller clutch with an er helix and a 03' flywheel and recoil.
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2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 4th 2009 at 8:31 AM
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Craig_Polaris
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147 Posts
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Member Since: November 11th 2008
Location: Derry, New Hampshire, USA
Current Sled: 2002 Edge X 800
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i wasnt sure thats y
2002 Edge x 800; Recently swallowed a valve so, New wiseco pistons, rings, pins, circlips, renikisil cylinders, and updated lower end bearings.
- Slp single Pipe and Can
- Vforce3 Reeds
- Slp air horn and gutted box
- 140/310 Slp primary spring
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October 4th 2009 at 9:32 PM
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bigrok
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Location: Kailua, HI, USA
Current Sled: NONE!! :(
2008-2009 Miles: 73
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I've done it and highrolla has done it. Buy the 03 kit and put it on and it works just fine. The kit comes with a Polaris roller, but the Team roller has way more helix choices. I had a Team roller on mine. A flywheel and oil pump are recommended, but not neccessary. I didn't change out either one to begin with, but did buy an 03 oil pump after 2 years of riding it. It worked great. It's the best thing I ever did to my sled. I highly highly recommend it.
I need big jugs on my sled, cuz my girl doesn't.
2007 Dodge Ram 2500
~5.9L CUMMINS TURBO DIESEL, auto, quad cab, short box, B&W gooseneck hitch, silencer ring MIA, torque tube baffles MIA, Smarty Jr POD, Aero Turbine 4040XL, ISSPRO gauges (boost, trans temp & EGT).....Wish list: 18"x9" XD Spy wheels, 33" tires, Smarty Sr, AFE Intake
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October 5th 2009 at 12:16 AM
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sledfreak139
Sled Junky
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Member Since: March 12th 2009
Location: Derry, NH, USA
Current Sled: 05 Polaris Switchback 600
2008-2009 Miles: 400
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Why would you not buy the oil pump!?!? I do realize that you usually don't run your sled in reverse that long, but if you did... engine would be getting no oil...
Whats the difference in the flywheels? what will it change?
2005 Polaris Switchback 600: SlyDog PowderHound Ski's, SLP Air Box Mod, V-Force 3 Reeds, 144" track fully studded, Powermadd Pivot Riser and 4" block, Polaris Hand guards,
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October 5th 2009 at 9:02 AM
[ Modified October 5th 2009 at 9:02 AM
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shortstop20
I NEED SNOW!!!!
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Location: Stickney, SD, USA
Current Sled: '09 Summit XP 800R 154" X
2008-2009 Miles: 400
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You just have to remember not to run it in reverse for very long if you don't have the reverse compatible oil pump, no big deal.
I can't remember the specifics on the flywheel. I think 2002 flywheel is 14 degrees and 2003 is 18 degrees.
2009 Ski-Doo Summit XP 800 154" X package - Quick Clickers, Between the Lines Designs Ice Scratchers, Tunnel & Rail Stiffeners
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October 5th 2009 at 10:07 AM
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Zippi
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2008-2009 Miles: 1300
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yes, your flywheel is most likely 14 degrees and the newer ones are 18. However, 99% of people that have done this and left the 14 degree flywheel on the sled haven't noticed any performance issues. It really doesn't make any difference. I have done it to two sleds and left the 14 degree in it and noticed no change in performance.
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October 5th 2009 at 10:45 AM
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sledfreak139
Sled Junky
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367 Posts
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Member Since: March 12th 2009
Location: Derry, NH, USA
Current Sled: 05 Polaris Switchback 600
2008-2009 Miles: 400
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hmm, I'd like to learn something new today lol. What do you mean by 14 or 18 degrees on the flywheel. I thought the flywheel had different weights..?
2005 Polaris Switchback 600: SlyDog PowderHound Ski's, SLP Air Box Mod, V-Force 3 Reeds, 144" track fully studded, Powermadd Pivot Riser and 4" block, Polaris Hand guards,
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October 5th 2009 at 11:24 AM
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Craig_Polaris
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147 Posts
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Member Since: November 11th 2008
Location: Derry, New Hampshire, USA
Current Sled: 2002 Edge X 800
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So pretty much i could just attach everything and wire it up and be good and just dont run it long in reverse? I also have a temp guage on my sled
2002 Edge x 800; Recently swallowed a valve so, New wiseco pistons, rings, pins, circlips, renikisil cylinders, and updated lower end bearings.
- Slp single Pipe and Can
- Vforce3 Reeds
- Slp air horn and gutted box
- 140/310 Slp primary spring
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October 5th 2009 at 3:29 PM
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bigrok
Oatty
bigrok is not looking forward to going back to "paradise".
Updated Tuesday at 11:59 AM
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1543 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 23rd 2006
Location: Kailua, HI, USA
Current Sled: NONE!! :(
2008-2009 Miles: 73
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You need the roller secondary with an ER helix.
I need big jugs on my sled, cuz my girl doesn't.
2007 Dodge Ram 2500
~5.9L CUMMINS TURBO DIESEL, auto, quad cab, short box, B&W gooseneck hitch, silencer ring MIA, torque tube baffles MIA, Smarty Jr POD, Aero Turbine 4040XL, ISSPRO gauges (boost, trans temp & EGT).....Wish list: 18"x9" XD Spy wheels, 33" tires, Smarty Sr, AFE Intake
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October 5th 2009 at 3:31 PM
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Zippi
Average Member
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537 Posts
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Member Since: November 7th 2005
Location: Groton, NY, USA
2008-2009 Miles: 1300
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i see most of the ebay kits come with a whole new clutch all ready to go.
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October 5th 2009 at 3:45 PM
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sledfreak139
Sled Junky
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367 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 12th 2009
Location: Derry, NH, USA
Current Sled: 05 Polaris Switchback 600
2008-2009 Miles: 400
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I can't see any reason why you would not change the oil pump out, seems dangerous!
2005 Polaris Switchback 600: SlyDog PowderHound Ski's, SLP Air Box Mod, V-Force 3 Reeds, 144" track fully studded, Powermadd Pivot Riser and 4" block, Polaris Hand guards,
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October 5th 2009 at 7:55 PM
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Zippi
Average Member
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537 Posts
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Member Since: November 7th 2005
Location: Groton, NY, USA
2008-2009 Miles: 1300
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its def. safer if you change it, nothing to worry about though. Just have to make a mental note to not have it in reverse for an extended period of time.
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October 5th 2009 at 10:30 PM
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bigrok
Oatty
bigrok is not looking forward to going back to "paradise".
Updated Tuesday at 11:59 AM
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1543 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 23rd 2006
Location: Kailua, HI, USA
Current Sled: NONE!! :(
2008-2009 Miles: 73
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Running it in reverse for 5-10 seconds with out oil won't hurt anything. The gas it's using while in reverse is aready in the carb and has oil in it.
I need big jugs on my sled, cuz my girl doesn't.
2007 Dodge Ram 2500
~5.9L CUMMINS TURBO DIESEL, auto, quad cab, short box, B&W gooseneck hitch, silencer ring MIA, torque tube baffles MIA, Smarty Jr POD, Aero Turbine 4040XL, ISSPRO gauges (boost, trans temp & EGT).....Wish list: 18"x9" XD Spy wheels, 33" tires, Smarty Sr, AFE Intake
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October 6th 2009 at 8:05 AM
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Zippi
Average Member
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537 Posts
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Location: Groton, NY, USA
2008-2009 Miles: 1300
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Quote originally posted by bigrok
Running it in reverse for 5-10 seconds with out oil won't hurt anything. The gas it's using while in reverse is aready in the carb and has oil in it.
This is correct, not sure why you have a neg. The oil pump has four ports. one to each carb and the other two lube the base. so there will be enough oil in the carb to lube the cylinders for a couple seconds, just not getting any oil pumped to the crank. People have been running the reverse without the reverse pump for years and having no problems.
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October 6th 2009 at 8:26 AM
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Craig_Polaris
Junior Member
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147 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 11th 2008
Location: Derry, New Hampshire, USA
Current Sled: 2002 Edge X 800
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i might give it a try, beats the old style pull handle reverse
2002 Edge x 800; Recently swallowed a valve so, New wiseco pistons, rings, pins, circlips, renikisil cylinders, and updated lower end bearings.
- Slp single Pipe and Can
- Vforce3 Reeds
- Slp air horn and gutted box
- 140/310 Slp primary spring
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November 6th 2009 at 4:54 PM
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wazy1613
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Quote originally posted by Zippi
yes, very possible! buy the kit, change the clutch, oil pump and cdi...jump one wire on the voltage regulator and you're good to go. takes a couple hours but fairly simple.
I am about to put in the kit... What wires am I jumping... the hook up for the 02 regulator is not possable to 03 kit wireing harness...
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