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PSI to Watercraft conversion
started by the_hog
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October 4th 2009 at 8:09 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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Started and made a little progress on converting my sled from the PSI over to the Watercraft today. Got the PSI out and set the WC in to see how it fit. Got a few mods to make to get it in there for good. Pictures arent the best because I had to take them with my Blackberry.
One last PSI underhood picture.
Pipes off.
PSI out.
Goodbye PSI!
Comparison.
On its side to get at some nuts and bolts.
Power Addiction motor plate.
Motor mount needs to be moved and motor plate need to be cut to clear the steering rod.
WC set in for mock up.
Pipes on.
Pipes sit pretty high for now since the motor plate is not set all the way down on the motor mounts.
Now I gotta get it to the machine shop to get that motor mount moved. Then hopefully I can start installing it. Might be a week or two before I can get it into the machine shop though, so progress might stall for awhile.
1200 WC coming soon
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October 4th 2009 at 8:18 PM
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polaris_xc_racing
Average Member
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742 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: April 7th 2007
Location: NY, USA
Current Sled: 1999 Polaris XC SP 700
2008-2009 Miles: 660
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Looks like a cool project. What's that motor making for horsepower?
1999 Polaris XC SP 700
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October 4th 2009 at 9:05 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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Conservatively, 220-230HP.
1200 WC coming soon
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October 4th 2009 at 10:14 PM
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KingPrat
Destroyer of Trailers
KingPrat just got back from New Hampshire. Plans for trips made!!!
Updated Thursday at 5:38 PM
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1032 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: September 13th 2008
Location: Saugerties, NY
Current Sled: 2000 Polaris XC 700 SP
2008-2009 Miles: 200
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Is there a big weight difference between the PSI and the WC motor? Your sig said it was 180hp, but is there a cost to those 40 horses?
That thing is gonna rip......
2000 XCSP 700: Edge rear suspension, 1.25 Ripsaw, 144 Accord Racing Warthog ZXP studs, Sportech Decals, Stripped Tunnel, 3" Riser, Gutted Airbox, Boyesen Rave Valves
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October 4th 2009 at 10:41 PM
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RMK-KING
The Fabricator Moderator
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9121 Posts 
Group: Moderators
Member Since: October 3rd 2002
Location: Center and Roseglen, ND, USA
Current Sled: 09 RMK 700 & 06 IQr 600
2008-2009 Miles: 550
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Looks like its going to fit pretty nice in there,not alot of room to spare though. Those intake holes are considerably bigger on the WC 
Current Line Up
-09 RMK Assault
-06 IQ R 600HO
-01 ProX 600
-95 XCR 600
Days get shorter,snow gets deeper,life gets better.
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October 4th 2009 at 10:47 PM
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03Pro-X700
Senior Member
03Pro-X700 wants to get rid of my cdi, tach, wiring harness, and old cover. PM if interested.
Updated Last Sunday at 11:26 PM
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2414 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: December 13th 2003
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 2003 Pro-X 700 144"
2008-2009 Miles: 860
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Looks great hog and should be a very fun sled once completed. Im assuming your going to be selling the psi motor as well? A 50+ h.p upgrade should be a nice upgrade too! Now all you need to do is update your signature! 
2003 pro-x 700;
TracksUSA 144" tip-up rail extensions
1.25 camoplast predator /120 1.40' extreme max SS studs
VanAmburg tunnel extension
SLP Powder-Pro skis, Powder-Coated suspension
Holtzman tempaflow-420 main jets
10-64g weights w/ round almond spring
24/42 gearing, gutted airbox, PERC, torque arm
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October 5th 2009 at 2:45 AM
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2L8ULuz
Junior Member
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234 Posts 
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Member Since: June 21st 2005
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Current Sled: 07 600cfi / 95 xlt
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looking good. I thought Brad's motor plates are direct fit? Is that a plate for another chassis your making work?
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October 5th 2009 at 6:58 AM
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Ugly_old_Poo_kid
techno-bumpkin
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1072 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 18th 2007
Location: Walworth, NY, USA
Current Sled: 05 Edge & Frankenstorm II
2008-2009 Miles: 165
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He he he, I like the SRX tool shelf!!!
95 - Storm 800 - Modded - AKA: FrankenStorm - Totalled near 100mph at Tug Hill!
96 - XLT/SP with Storm 800 trip/trip and now EFI - FrankenStorm II lives...
95 - RXL -- Sale Pending --
05 - Edge 800 long track - Stayin' stock for now..
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It made me more compassionate, more empathetic, more nurturing...
I FEEL LIKE I'M TRAPPED IN MY OWN WORST NIGHTMARE!!!
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October 5th 2009 at 7:21 AM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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Quote originally posted by KingPrat
Is there a big weight difference between the PSI and the WC motor? Your sig said it was 180hp, but is there a cost to those 40 horses?
That thing is gonna rip......
I havent gotten around to weighing the WC yet, but I am sure there is a noticeable weight difference, the WC is a BIG motor. Its probably more like a 50-60HP addition, after hearing all the stories of Bruce overrating his HP numbers I doubt mine was 180, and my numbers on the WC are on the conservative side.
Quote originally posted by 03Pro-X700
Im assuming your going to be selling the psi motor as well?
I dont know what I am going to do with the PSI motor yet.
Quote originally posted by 2L8ULuz
looking good. I thought Brad's motor plates are direct fit? Is that a plate for another chassis your making work?
This is a Gen2 motor plate, and Brad's plates are a direct fit. I had that motor mount moved when I put in the PSI and the reason the steering hits is because of the aftermarket bell crank.
1200 WC coming soon
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October 5th 2009 at 8:02 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 has to go through the snowmobile trailer....sleds will be north next weekend.
Updated Thursday at 1:45 PM
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12572 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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What watercraft engine is that? 1200? I had a 780 and 1050 water craft years ago. Very dependable.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 5th 2009 at 10:08 AM
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sks7kid
Advanced Member
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1435 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: June 18th 2005
Location: Morristown, Minnesota, USA
Current Sled: 2003 Pro-X 700
2008-2009 Miles: 80
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Hog-- Can you sell me the PSI now so i too can have a mod sled :)
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October 5th 2009 at 11:26 AM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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Quote originally posted by Ugly_old_Poo_kid
He he he, I like the SRX tool shelf!!!
Yeah, I need to get myself a tool cart.
Quote originally posted by xcr440
What watercraft engine is that? 1200? I had a 780 and 1050 water craft years ago. Very dependable.
It's not a watercraft engine, its a watercraft based sled engine, but everyone in the sled world refers to them as watercraft engines.
It's a Polaris 1050 or 1200 watercraft crankcase (thats the only thing watercraft on the engine), a custom built crank, and either 3 700 twin cylinders to make a 1050 or 3 800 twin cylinders to make a 1200, 3 800 twin domes, custom head, pipes are 800 twin pipes just 3 of them, Indy 650 waterpump, Ultra ignition, etc.
Mine is a 1200.
1200 WC coming soon
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October 5th 2009 at 8:26 PM
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erick
Alternate Realities
erick pretty much excited that it's Friday, though there are no plans for the weekend yet!
Updated Yesterday at 11:45 AM
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11495 Posts 
Group: Administrators
Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Strathcona, MN, USA
Current Sled: IQr 800 & RMK 800
2008-2009 Miles: 800
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Stroke is different on the 1050 and the 1200. The 1050 has a 68 mm stroke and the 1200 has a 70 mm stroke. The bearing on the wrist pin is also larger on the 1200 so you have to use the pistons and cylinder that fit the crankshaft you are using, they don't interchange.
Either engine will give you more power than you really need though.
Breaking free from the thoughts in my mind
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October 5th 2009 at 8:54 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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Erick is correct about the stroke being different on the 1050 and 1200. Quote originally posted by erick Either engine will give you more power than you really need though. Hearsay! Erick you can NEVER have more power than you really need!
1200 WC coming soon
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October 6th 2009 at 3:17 PM
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JD
Senior Member
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3115 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 6th 2006
Location: North Dakota, USA
Current Sled: '02 XC 500 SP
2008-2009 Miles: 1625
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I've found "NEED" is not a good word to use when discussing anything having to do with snowmobiles.
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October 6th 2009 at 3:29 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 has to go through the snowmobile trailer....sleds will be north next weekend.
Updated Thursday at 1:45 PM
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12572 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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"need" is better than "want" in my household. Works better also.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 6th 2009 at 9:03 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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Come on guys, everyone knows you always NEED more HP, or not? Maybe I am just a HP whore, because as far as I am concerned you can never have enough.
1200 WC coming soon
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October 6th 2009 at 9:11 PM
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Quinlan
Department of Corrections
Quinlan is a little disappointed that he received HMK Highmark 4 boots instead of the Highmark Pros as he had anticipated...
Updated Yesterday at 6:19 PM
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9719 Posts
Group: Moderators
Member Since: December 8th 2003
Location: Fargo, ND, USA
Current Sled: 06 SP 440/700, 98 ZR 600
2008-2009 Miles: 365
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You're just trying to compensate for other inadequacies...
2006 Arctic Cat SnoPro 440/700 EFI
1998 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI Custom
1996 Ski-Doo FormulaIII 600
A mountain lion roaming the prairie found a bull, killed it and ate the entire bull. With a heavy belly, unable to walk, the lion laid in the tall grass moaning and roaring. Soon a hunter, attracted by the roaring, shot and killed the lion.
Moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut!
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October 6th 2009 at 9:12 PM
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PolarisBoy1996
Hard Core Sled Lover
PolarisBoy1996 Got my handguards, mounts, and extensions in the mail today. Just finished putting them on, hope they work good!
Updated Thursday at 3:44 PM
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291 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: September 20th 2009
Location: Bright's Grove, Ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 95' Polaris Indy Starlite
2008-2009 Miles: 50
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Can't wait until its all done!
It's not what you drive, It's what drives you!
Pain is just weakness leaving the body!
Current Sleds:
1995 Polaris Indy Starlite 250 - Mine
2001 Polaris XCF SP 440 - Dad's
1995 Polaris Indy XLT Special 600 Mod - Brother's
Past Sleds:
2001 Polaris XCSP 600 w/modded out 2003 Polaris ProX 600 motor - Dad's
1998 Ski-Doo Formula 380 - Mom's First
2003 Polaris ProX 600 - Mom's Second
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October 7th 2009 at 4:34 AM
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Ugly_old_Poo_kid
techno-bumpkin
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1072 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 18th 2007
Location: Walworth, NY, USA
Current Sled: 05 Edge & Frankenstorm II
2008-2009 Miles: 165
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Quote originally posted by Quinlan
You're just trying to compensate for other inadequacies...
Man.. Where do you have to go, to top that?
95 - Storm 800 - Modded - AKA: FrankenStorm - Totalled near 100mph at Tug Hill!
96 - XLT/SP with Storm 800 trip/trip and now EFI - FrankenStorm II lives...
95 - RXL -- Sale Pending --
05 - Edge 800 long track - Stayin' stock for now..
---------------------------------------------
It made me more compassionate, more empathetic, more nurturing...
I FEEL LIKE I'M TRAPPED IN MY OWN WORST NIGHTMARE!!!
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October 21st 2009 at 8:11 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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I don't know if you can top it.
Not too much progress to report, still waiting to get it into the machine shop. The recent wet weather has pushed beet harvest back which has pushed my appointment back. I have been gathering some parts though, picked up a Ultra wiring harness, new steering post,a recoil Power Addiction coil mounts and a billet throttle block. I should have all the parts I need, so once I get it into and back from the machine shop it should go together rather quickly.
1200 WC coming soon
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November 9th 2009 at 8:20 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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Made a little progress on it this weekend and today. Its progress all be it little but still progress, although after today it should move along rather quickly. Mounted up the Power Addiction coil mounts this weekend, much better mounting than how they were before (just hanging off the water rail) check out the pictures above to see how they were mounted. Still need to get a few bolts to get it all buttoned up. Biggest progress was I got it into the machine shop to get the motor mount moved. I also had him cut out an old motor mount, I did this because I think I am going to switch it over to XC-10 steering because the motor plate will have to be cut to clear the current steering and the bell crank will lightly hit the pipe when turned all the way to the right. The XC-10 steering will clear everything. Also got the Ultra recoil cut to clear the 650 water pump belt.
1200 WC coming soon
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November 9th 2009 at 9:41 PM
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Polaristhewayout
Rider of sleds
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1008 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Webster, South Dakota
Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500
2008-2009 Miles: 100
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The only thing I am thinking is what kind of traction you are going to need in order to get that baby to full potential, I think I will stick to my puny 440 motor so I don't kill myself
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November 9th 2009 at 9:54 PM
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JONESIE
SLED IS BOTTLE FED
JONESIE Too dam busy for my own good.
Updated Last Monday at 12:14 PM
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Group: Members
Member Since: March 8th 2004
Location: winnipeg, manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: 04 700 switchback mod
2008-2009 Miles: 643
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Quote originally posted by the_hog
Come on guys, everyone knows you always NEED more HP, or not? Maybe I am just a HP whore, because as far as I am concerned you can never have enough.
I second never having enough power. In fact my motor fell out of my sled on sunday all by itself 
04 700 switchback clutched, aatacc, slp big air kit, sportech hand gaurds, boyseen reeds, c&a pro xt with 6" carbide, 8" big wheel kit, slp cheater head, full slp pipe setup, black belly pan, walker evans clicker shocks, 1.5 camoplast cross country track, ported cylinder, and boss noss 30-40hp kit.
FOR SALE PM FOR DETAIL
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November 9th 2009 at 9:57 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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I hope to hell that means you got a WC that is going in there.
1200 WC coming soon
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