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Amsoil HP injector oil
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October 5th 2009 at 7:56 AM
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yankeeslover
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My buddy just gave me a full gallon of the amsoil synthetic HP injector oil...Was wondering if this is ok to use in a 97 xlt sled? I just purchased this sled last month w/1700 miles on it, and I never used a synthetic oil... should I use this oil? Or just use the normal blue Polaris oil? Im not sure what synthetic oil is, or if its supposed to be better then the normal 2 stroke oil, or if it can be used in a older sled..thank you
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October 5th 2009 at 7:59 AM
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xcr440
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Yes you can use it. Just run the oil in the sled down to the add line and then fill up. It is a good oil.
Synthetic oil is a combination of man made componets and sometimes oil base stocks. Really depends on the blend they are looking for.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
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woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 5th 2009 at 8:05 AM
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TRICKPaint
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Before you make the switch, run your regular oil down pretty far, so you will have a good amount of the synthetic in your oil reservoir.
Sorry about that XCR-440! We must have been posting at about the same time.
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October 5th 2009 at 4:03 PM
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700wildcat
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
Yes you can use it. Just run the oil in the sled down to the add line and then fill up. It is a good oil.
Synthetic oil is a combination of man made componets and sometimes oil base stocks. Really depends on the blend they are looking for.
Why are you not supposed to mix two different oils together? I've heard this before but have never asked why.
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October 5th 2009 at 5:18 PM
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MX86
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Some oils tend to break down when mixed with other oils and thus provide no lubrication properties.
also note, when using amsoil or a lot of other full synthetics, if you are not using the sled for a long period of time pull the carb and reeds and fog the bottom end, for they tend to amplify condensation on the bearings and end up with surface rust on them.
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October 5th 2009 at 8:33 PM
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xcr440
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xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
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^^^I would fog any engine if not being used for a long time.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 7th 2009 at 8:19 AM
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polaris1man
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Amsoil is a excellent product for your sled
Three-1999 Polaris SKS700's
2000 Polaris SKS700
2000 Polaris Ranger 6x6
2007 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI X2
2000 Yamaha YZ 250
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October 7th 2009 at 12:37 PM
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xcr440
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xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated 23 minutes ago
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^^^^^Not so sure about that statement anymore.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 7th 2009 at 1:12 PM
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ACEXLT
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^^^^me either!! The HP injector oil is junk in my opinion and its the most putrid smelling oil and smokiest oil I have ever seen.
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October 7th 2009 at 7:51 PM
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MNkid97
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kind of off topic of the question but would it matter if i didnt fog my sled but started it like 2 times a month during the spring/summer/fall?i seen you say somthing about the bearings on the crank having surface rust when not being used for a long period of time
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October 7th 2009 at 9:09 PM
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Luke
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HP injector oil is not really meant to be run in sleds. Its actually made for oil injected 2 stroke boat engines. Itll still work perfectly fine in a sled, but amsoil makes better oils for use in snowmobiles, like Interceptor, or Dominator.
I am an Amsoil dealer, I use Amsoil because its a good product. I dont sell it to make money, I just became a dealer to get it cheaper. Its good oil, and it will work perfectly fine in your sled.
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SLP pipe, boost bottle, power packs, VForce, clutched, Ripsaw 1.25, M-10 susp, 2 in riser, handlebar hooks, third testicle, and good brakes.
"I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." - Thomas Alva Edison
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October 7th 2009 at 10:09 PM
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MX86
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Dominator is used for race engines that get taken apart a lot (once a race or so and regularly inspected.) Interceptor was designed for everyday use.
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October 7th 2009 at 10:12 PM
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OhioPolarisKid
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Id just run that, then once you need more try to find some Sea and Snow, i think its a Citgo oil. Its a good quality oil and is cheaper then the others. No need to pay a ton for the "high performance" oils.
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October 7th 2009 at 10:30 PM
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Luke
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Quote originally posted by MX86
Dominator is used for race engines that get taken apart a lot (once a race or so and regularly inspected.) Interceptor was designed for everyday use.
Dominator is just a thicker oil that holds its properties better at higher temps. The amsoil website says "for race engines that get torn down" referring to exhaust valve engines because Dominator dosnt burn as clean as Interceptor beacuse it is thicker. If you dont have exhaust valves, you can run Dominator with no issues. It will protect your engine better than Interceptor will as well as smoke a little more. The teardown is not to clean oil deposits, its to inspect high performance engine components, they are assuming everything will be cleaned before reassembly. If you ride hard and dont have exhaust valves, dominator is the better choice. If you have exhaust valves, interceptor is the better choice. If you have a 2 stroke boat, HP injector is the better choice.
1998 XC 700
SLP pipe, boost bottle, power packs, VForce, clutched, Ripsaw 1.25, M-10 susp, 2 in riser, handlebar hooks, third testicle, and good brakes.
"I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." - Thomas Alva Edison
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http://www.galushascottages.com
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October 7th 2009 at 11:31 PM
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FastPolaris
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interceptor blows. use castrol super snowmobile oil. i even think the hp injector has better overall engine protection. interceptor has too many detergents and does not stick to the engine parts well.
ride hard, you can rest when you die
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October 8th 2009 at 5:56 AM
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Luke
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Quote originally posted by FastPolaris
interceptor blows. use castrol super snowmobile oil. i even think the hp injector has better overall engine protection. interceptor has too many detergents and does not stick to the engine parts well.
Really? You really prefer a mineral oil made by Castrol over a proven high quality synthetic like Amsoil? To each his own I guess. Do you have a personal experience where you can prove that an engine failure of some sort was a result of Interceptor? Cause Id love to hear about it.
I have talked to hundreds of people about oil, and I have never personally spoken to one person that evere had anything bad to say about Amsoil. The only negative comments I have ever heard of is on the internet in forums like this. Some people seem to think that simply beacuse they have an engine failure of some sort, its because of the oil. When in reality, that part was simply worn out, or it was a weak part to start with , or they did not properly store their sled for the summer by fogging the engine.
1998 XC 700
SLP pipe, boost bottle, power packs, VForce, clutched, Ripsaw 1.25, M-10 susp, 2 in riser, handlebar hooks, third testicle, and good brakes.
"I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." - Thomas Alva Edison
Amsoil dealer
http://www.galushascottages.com
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October 8th 2009 at 9:24 AM
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xcr440
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xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated 23 minutes ago
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Quote originally posted by Luke
Quote originally posted by FastPolaris
interceptor blows. use castrol super snowmobile oil. i even think the hp injector has better overall engine protection. interceptor has too many detergents and does not stick to the engine parts well.
Really? You really prefer a mineral oil made by Castrol over a proven high quality synthetic like Amsoil? To each his own I guess. Do you have a personal experience where you can prove that an engine failure of some sort was a result of Interceptor? Cause Id love to hear about it.
I have talked to hundreds of people about oil, and I have never personally spoken to one person that evere had anything bad to say about Amsoil. The only negative comments I have ever heard of is on the internet in forums like this. Some people seem to think that simply beacuse they have an engine failure of some sort, its because of the oil. When in reality, that part was simply worn out, or it was a weak part to start with , or they did not properly store their sled for the summer by fogging the engine.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 8th 2009 at 1:02 PM
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FastPolaris
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we are rebuilding my 800 xc right now. i used interceptor for 5000 miles before my engine seized on a slushy lake. the middle bearings in the crankshaft were seized. when we took apart the crankcase the shaft look as dry as a bone. i am a meticulous freak. i check my sleds over every 500 miles of riding. i'll clean my power valves more often as long as i have better engine protection. i never fog my snowmobile because i go out in my garage and start it up every 3 weeks. i would use dominator over interceptor anyday. you can get it for 28.20 a gallon on amsoil website. to answer the guys question. hp injector will be ok but in an old triple like that? i would the old style oil. polaris BLUE or a oil like castrol super snowmobile oil, better engine protection for sure.
ride hard, you can rest when you die
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October 8th 2009 at 1:14 PM
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XLT96rider
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Personally, I won't touch Amsoil. We pulled the exhaust valves out of three sleds, all rev's.
1. Ran on Ski-Doo oil it's whole life - valves were spotless
2. Ran on Ski-Doo, then switched to Arctic Blue - valves were spotless
3. Ran on Amsoil it's whole life - valves were built up really bad, now switched it to Arctic Blue
Point proven. Just because a product has a big, well-known name, doesn't make it the best.
This was just my case, and others may have had different results, so take it as you may.:)
We've used the Arctic Blue for years and years now and have never had an oil-related problem.
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October 8th 2009 at 6:27 PM
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mattgyz250f
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I wonder the same thing. I've never foged a sled. I've always done the same thing run it at least once a month durning the off season for about 10-15mins and never had a prob with any of my sleds.
Quote originally posted by MNkid97
kind of off topic of the question but would it matter if i didnt fog my sled but started it like 2 times a month during the spring/summer/fall?i seen you say somthing about the bearings on the crank having surface rust when not being used for a long period of time
2006 Indy 500, 96studds, EPI clutch kit, and Rox Sledtreads
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October 8th 2009 at 8:48 PM
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Luke
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Personally, I really have a hard time believing that any oil ever CAUSED an engine to fail. If that were the case then every engine with that oil in it would also fail.
When one person claims thousands of miles with no issues and another person claims that "amsoil ruined my motor", they cant both be right. But the person that went thousands of miles with no issues is an undeniable fact.
Everyone has had different experiences with different oils. Use what you trust.
I think were beating a dead horse here guys. I think well just have to agree to disagree.
Im gonna go find a thread about boobs. over and out 
1998 XC 700
SLP pipe, boost bottle, power packs, VForce, clutched, Ripsaw 1.25, M-10 susp, 2 in riser, handlebar hooks, third testicle, and good brakes.
"I have not failed, I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." - Thomas Alva Edison
Amsoil dealer
http://www.galushascottages.com
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October 9th 2009 at 6:25 AM
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polaris1man
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Quote originally posted by Luke
Personally, I really have a hard time believing that any oil ever CAUSED an engine to fail. If that were the case then every engine with that oil in it would also fail.
When one person claims thousands of miles with no issues and another person claims that "amsoil ruined my motor", they cant both be right. But the person that went thousands of miles with no issues is an undeniable fact.
Everyone has had different experiences with different oils. Use what you trust.
I think were beating a dead horse here guys. I think well just have to agree to disagree.
Im gonna go find a thread about boobs. over and out
I would tend to agree about oil causing motor failure, when really it comes down to metal on metal in the end. Motors, any type and or size is a wear out item, we all know that, cars, atv's dirt bikes, lawnmowers, weed eaters, sleds,industrial, you name them, and the motor is made to wear out,fact of life, case in point.
Three-1999 Polaris SKS700's
2000 Polaris SKS700
2000 Polaris Ranger 6x6
2007 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI X2
2000 Yamaha YZ 250
1996 Yamaha WR250
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