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type of aluminum used on tunnel
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October 7th 2009 at 11:15 PM
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nightsniper
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im adding some aluminum to close off the tunnel on my phazer mtx and i dont know what grade of aluminum it is. im guessing its 5052 but just want to make sure, thanks. im thinking of adding expanded aluminum for trim in some spots like the a-arms and front & rear bumper, what do you think of that idea?
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October 8th 2009 at 3:28 PM
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07Phazer
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I'm assuming you mean the '07+ Phazers, correct? Not the Phazer in your avatar. If it's a new Phazer, the material you use does not matter. The tunnel is designed to have that hole in it, so the material that you use to cover the hole will not be stressed. I personally have a piece of lexan covering the rear hole in my Phazer.
As far as the expanded metal, that would actually look kinda cool in certain spots. It would be easy to overdo it though. Then it would just look odd and out of place. Try some temporary pieces and see how it looks before you make it permanent.
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October 8th 2009 at 4:46 PM
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nightsniper
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Quote originally posted by 07Phazer
I'm assuming you mean the '07+ Phazers, correct? Not the Phazer in your avatar. If it's a new Phazer, the material you use does not matter. The tunnel is designed to have that hole in it, so the material that you use to cover the hole will not be stressed. I personally have a piece of lexan covering the rear hole in my Phazer.
As far as the expanded metal, that would actually look kinda cool in certain spots. It would be easy to overdo it though. Then it would just look odd and out of place. Try some temporary pieces and see how it looks before you make it permanent.
yes the 07+ phazer. alright, thanks about the alum. i want the color of the aluminum to be close to the same color, thats one reason i was wondering. ya i was thinking of using zip ties to hold them temporary untill i decide to make them permanent.
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October 8th 2009 at 6:05 PM
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Huh, guess I never though about different aluminum alloys being different shades...I suppose it is possible though. I wonder if it's polished, if that would hide any subtle differences in shade?
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October 8th 2009 at 10:20 PM
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nightsniper
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Quote originally posted by 07Phazer
Huh, guess I never though about different aluminum alloys being different shades...I suppose it is possible though. I wonder if it's polished, if that would hide any subtle differences in shade?
well i know the different types are somewhat different in shades, some have more of a shine and the others are like matte finish. polished is alot more shiny, obvisely.
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October 9th 2009 at 10:53 AM
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nightsniper
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Quote originally posted by 07Phazer
Huh, guess I never though about different aluminum alloys being different shades...I suppose it is possible though. I wonder if it's polished, if that would hide any subtle differences in shade?
how did you put plate on, did you have to remove the exhaust to drill the holes or something? and did you put your plate on top or on the bottom of the tunnel. also did you block off the front hole in the tunnel.
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October 9th 2009 at 7:12 PM
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I put the plate on top of the tunnel, on top of the thin sheet metal, and in-between the thicker aluminum that is rolled up over the top of the tunnel. Mine is where the red box is in the picture.
I didn't have to remove the exhaust, but I did remove the seat and rear plastics to install it. It does get a little tight up front with a drill, but you can't really see the fasteners once the seat is back on, so if they don't line up perfectly with the other fasteners, you really won't be able to notice.
You may want to get a roll of the reflective tape to line the inside of the plastics and bottom of the seat with. The '09's have it, and the rear hole is blocked off on those. I have 3 small holes in the plate on mine right now. I plan on making a new plate next season with no holes.
I have not closed off the front hole. Some people have, and haven't reported any problems. Those header pipes get pretty freaking hot though. I would probably keep the front hole open to cool off the headers.
I'll have mine all put back together tomorrow afternoon. I'll post up some pics of how it all looks.
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October 10th 2009 at 4:52 PM
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Ok, some pictures of how I have my block-off plate mounted.
I plan on making a nicer looking one next summer. I just ran out of time this year to do cosmetic stuff to the sled.
Hope this helps.
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October 11th 2009 at 7:36 PM
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nightsniper
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Quote originally posted by 07Phazer
Ok, some pictures of how I have my block-off plate mounted.
I plan on making a nicer looking one next summer. I just ran out of time this year to do cosmetic stuff to the sled.
Hope this helps.
ok thanks, ya that helps alot. i'll should be ordering my plate soon. i dont plan on adding the holes though, because i plan on getting a different exhaust next year. i might even upgrade to a nytro if i have some money.
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October 11th 2009 at 8:52 PM
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I wouldn't recommend the holes either. I added my cover plate a while ago, long before Yamaha sort of made it official that the rear hole should be covered by blocking it off on the '09's. I figured the holes would keep the exhaust cool enough to prevent any sort of problems. It still blocks a lot of the snow from flying up, but it also lets snow melt onto the running boards. Not as bad as it was, but still there. I'll deal with it for one more season, then I'm switching to a cover plate with no holes.
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October 11th 2009 at 9:49 PM
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nightsniper
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Quote originally posted by 07Phazer
I wouldn't recommend the holes either. I added my cover plate a while ago, long before Yamaha sort of made it official that the rear hole should be covered by blocking it off on the '09's. I figured the holes would keep the exhaust cool enough to prevent any sort of problems. It still blocks a lot of the snow from flying up, but it also lets snow melt onto the running boards. Not as bad as it was, but still there. I'll deal with it for one more season, then I'm switching to a cover plate with no holes.
alright. well wont be to long till we have enough snow. we've had it here the past 2 days but it melted and were supposed to get 2 more. cant wait to try it out. got it last month and havent got to ride it, hope it works out well.
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October 12th 2009 at 4:05 PM
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nightsniper
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Quote originally posted by 07Phazer
I wouldn't recommend the holes either. I added my cover plate a while ago, long before Yamaha sort of made it official that the rear hole should be covered by blocking it off on the '09's. I figured the holes would keep the exhaust cool enough to prevent any sort of problems. It still blocks a lot of the snow from flying up, but it also lets snow melt onto the running boards. Not as bad as it was, but still there. I'll deal with it for one more season, then I'm switching to a cover plate with no holes.
i found this tunnel kit looks pretty good, but i would get a different cover plate.
http://www.portyamaha.com/fiche_select.a...-50152-00+
http://www.snowandmud.com/forum/f124/yam...-9173.html
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October 14th 2009 at 10:46 PM
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07Phazer
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The Yamaha kit looks decent, but you can do it yourself for a lot less than $90.
This is what it looks like if you don't cover the rear hole:
So I'd recommend doing this project before you set off. If you don't, make sure you bring along a soft-faced hammer so you can beat the ice chunks off the tunnel. No joke, and very hard to do at night on the side of the trail... by yourself.
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October 14th 2009 at 10:51 PM
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nightsniper
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Quote originally posted by 07Phazer
The Yamaha kit looks decent, but you can do it yourself for a lot less than $90.
This is what it looks like if you don't cover the rear hole:
So I'd recommend doing this project before you set off. If you don't, make sure you bring along a soft-faced hammer so you can beat the ice chunks off the tunnel. No joke, and very hard to do at night on the side of the trail... by yourself.
ya i will be adding it. i already have the sheet of aluminum. ill be putting it on as soon as im done with my deer blind. possibly tommorow, and i will put up some pictures of it.
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October 21st 2009 at 10:51 PM
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