faster 600 fusion - 660 kit--how much more will i get started by polaris37
	October 13th 2009 at 6:28 PM Post #1
	polaris37 Junior Member 175 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 13th 2007 Location: NEWFOUNDLAND, Canada Current Sled: 06-600 fusion 136"track 2008-2009 Miles: 650
	details to date are below of my additions to sled.she performs very well and still pulls pretty good top end.has anyone upgraded to 660 kit after they piped,reeds,etc.how much more did u get ? 2006 600 h.o.fusion-136 x 1 1/4"track extension kit--studded slp pipe set v-force 3 reeds gutted air box and push arm 65g mtx weights and blue/pink primary Rating: 0 Quick Edit Edit Topic

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	October 14th 2009 at 5:13 AM Post #2
	slothman1 SNOW DAMMIT! 41 Posts Group: Members Member Since: September 15th 2009 Location: elmira, ontario, Canada Current Sled: 2006 polaris fusion 600ho 2008-2009 Miles: 500
	Quote originally posted by polaris37 details to date are below of my additions to sled.she performs very well and still pulls pretty good top end.has anyone upgraded to 660 kit after they piped,reeds,etc.how much more did u get ? I DONT know about your fusion,but i did a jet change in mine,and clutch kit...and stock it pulls plenty fast the way it comes top and bottom,so i figured why waste all the $$$$,just to squeeze out a few extra ponies...if you want more juice upgrade to a larger cc...for me,im not the lightest guy,and yet it moves my big ass down the trail awfully quick @ 120 hp...cheers Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 14th 2009 at 6:30 AM Post #3
	powersledder PSI Powered 3606 Posts Group: Members Member Since: September 1st 2006 Location: Houghton, MI, USA Current Sled: 07 IQr 2008-2009 Miles: No Speedo
	^^^Thats what the 660 kit is, an upgrade to bigger cc's. The 660 kits out there are between 130 and 140hp. Contact the shop you feel makes the best one and get the specs directly from them. Then you'll even have tuning and clutching info to set it up right. Polaris 800HO monoblock cylinder for sale PM me with offers Rating: +2 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 14th 2009 at 7:03 AM Post #4
	KRSS144 Average Member 782 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 31st 2007 Location: SPARTA, MI Current Sled: 2000 XC 600 SP -its stock 2008-2009 Miles: 850
	Is it worth the money for the 660 kit? Polaris37 did you notice a big difference when adding the SLP pipes? My buddy just got his in the mail two days ago and I cant wait for snow to fall to see if $650 is worth all 10hp from the pipes...? QUOTE(JeremyZ3 @ Jan 27 2009, 04:38 PM) F*** YOU ATLEAST I AINT A JEWISH XC JUNK OWNING ASS F***ER Goodwin Performance clutch kit,Boysen Reeds,1" Track,192 Stud Boys studs,Extra idler wheels,Thunder Products-extra air vents,SLP boost bottle,SLP Airhorn,Walker Evan rear Piggy Back shock,2 SLP Flow Right Intake,Rumble Pack can,PowerMadd 3" pivot riser w/6" riser block,custom made straight bar,PowerMadd handguards,PowerMadd SS extended throttle cable,RSI hand grips and SS brake line,hood vents yellow,Custom seat 04 SXVenom (Little ladies) 99 Banshee Red Frame,.40 over Vitos Super Stock Piston Kit,Vitos Needles, T5 pipes/silencers,Tusk nerf bars,K&N Air Filter,22" ITP Mud Lites 14/41 Gearing Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 14th 2009 at 9:33 AM Post #5
	polaris37 Junior Member 175 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 13th 2007 Location: NEWFOUNDLAND, Canada Current Sled: 06-600 fusion 136"track 2008-2009 Miles: 650
	Quote originally posted by KRSS144 Is it worth the money for the 660 kit? Polaris37 did you notice a big difference when adding the SLP pipes? My buddy just got his in the mail two days ago and I cant wait for snow to fall to see if $650 is worth all 10hp from the pipes...? nice difference with everything else that i have done.not sure where u live but start 1 or 2 sizes above suggestioned jetting and then go down.i was stock with 390's and all good,add pie and put 410's on mild day and almost cooked her.have to run 430's to be safe. 2006 600 h.o.fusion-136 x 1 1/4"track extension kit--studded slp pipe set v-force 3 reeds gutted air box and push arm 65g mtx weights and blue/pink primary Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 14th 2009 at 9:43 AM Post #6
	scooter8416 Fanatic. 104 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 20th 2005 Location: Middleport, NY, USA Current Sled: 2006 Fusion 600
	Quote originally posted by slothman1 Quote originally posted by polaris37 details to date are below of my additions to sled.she performs very well and still pulls pretty good top end.has anyone upgraded to 660 kit after they piped,reeds,etc.how much more did u get ? I DONT know about your fusion,but i did a jet change in mine,and clutch kit...and stock it pulls plenty fast the way it comes top and bottom,so i figured why waste all the $$$$,just to squeeze out a few extra ponies...if you want more juice upgrade to a larger cc...for me,im not the lightest guy,and yet it moves my big ass down the trail awfully quick @ 120 hp...cheers What clutch kit did you use? What jetting you change to? Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 14th 2009 at 9:55 AM Post #7
	KRSS144 Average Member 782 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 31st 2007 Location: SPARTA, MI Current Sled: 2000 XC 600 SP -its stock 2008-2009 Miles: 850
	Quote originally posted by polaris37 Quote originally posted by KRSS144 Is it worth the money for the 660 kit? Polaris37 did you notice a big difference when adding the SLP pipes? My buddy just got his in the mail two days ago and I cant wait for snow to fall to see if $650 is worth all 10hp from the pipes...? nice difference with everything else that i have done.not sure where u live but start 1 or 2 sizes above suggestioned jetting and then go down.i was stock with 390's and all good,add pie and put 410's on mild day and almost cooked her.have to run 430's to be safe. I was over at his house last night giving him some jets and he is going up 4 sizes, I gave him a 490 and a 500. I had to go up 4 sizes just for that SLP Airhorn. QUOTE(JeremyZ3 @ Jan 27 2009, 04:38 PM) F*** YOU ATLEAST I AINT A JEWISH XC JUNK OWNING ASS F***ER Goodwin Performance clutch kit,Boysen Reeds,1" Track,192 Stud Boys studs,Extra idler wheels,Thunder Products-extra air vents,SLP boost bottle,SLP Airhorn,Walker Evan rear Piggy Back shock,2 SLP Flow Right Intake,Rumble Pack can,PowerMadd 3" pivot riser w/6" riser block,custom made straight bar,PowerMadd handguards,PowerMadd SS extended throttle cable,RSI hand grips and SS brake line,hood vents yellow,Custom seat 04 SXVenom (Little ladies) 99 Banshee Red Frame,.40 over Vitos Super Stock Piston Kit,Vitos Needles, T5 pipes/silencers,Tusk nerf bars,K&N Air Filter,22" ITP Mud Lites 14/41 Gearing Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 14th 2009 at 11:54 AM  [ Modified October 14th 2009 at 11:56 AM ] Post #8
	dragon600mod New Member 52 Posts Group: Members Member Since: September 27th 2009 Location: waterloo, wi
	the 660 kit is worth the money, but you already have the pipe reeds and airbox upgrade, slp makes a kit for the 660, but it comes with most of the stuff you already have, im guna be putting in the 660 kit in my sled also, but they also make a 727 kit for the fusion too, you could go real big if you wanted to. but in my opinion the 660 kit is awesome, and im surprised how far you went up on your jetting, i have the slp pipe on my dragon and im still one size down from factory, but where i live in wisconsin the last few rides it was pretty warm out i also noticed you put on the 136 kit on your sled, im in the process of ordering that from tracksusa, do you like the kit you have and can you tell any difference in how it rides 2006 fusion dragon slp pipe slp air box v force three reeds heavy hitter clutch kit woodys gold digger studs egt gauges 3 inch powermadd riser sportech pad Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 14th 2009 at 5:40 PM  [ Modified October 14th 2009 at 5:43 PM ] Post #9
	polaris37 Junior Member 175 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 13th 2007 Location: NEWFOUNDLAND, Canada Current Sled: 06-600 fusion 136"track 2008-2009 Miles: 650
	i believe 727 kits are designed for high elevation not sure if anyone has tried them down low,i'm at sea level.136 kit makes sled feel completely different,better all around.i used polaris kit,only issue i had was overheating so i flipped my cooler completely around so that it was to flap again,added couple switchback parts to rear for looks and done. Quote originally posted by polaris37 i believe 727 kits are designed for high elevation not sure if anyone has tried them down low,i'm at sea level.136 kit makes sled feel completely different,better all around.i used polaris kit,only issue i had was overheating so i flipped my cooler completely around so that it was to flap again,added couple switchback parts to rear for looks and done. 2006 600 h.o.fusion-136 x 1 1/4"track extension kit--studded slp pipe set v-force 3 reeds gutted air box and push arm 65g mtx weights and blue/pink primary Rating: +1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 14th 2009 at 6:33 PM Post #10
	driftpounder Canadian Psycho driftpounder can already hear the BBBBRRRRRAAAAAPPPPP! of the MBRP. Updated Last Monday at 3:23 PM 1500 Posts Group: Members Member Since: April 26th 2006 Location: Porcupine Plain/Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Current Sled: 2006 Compfusion 2008-2009 Miles: 502
	Yes the 727 kit is intended for high elevation. I don't know of anyone that has tried it at sea level either. The 660 kit doesn't have the 150 hp that the 727 has, but a 130-140 hp is still more then the stock sled has. I would get SLP's kit seeing how you have a lot of their products already on there, they will work like stock with one another only giving you the extra power. '06 Fusion 700 0 miles just bought it High Flow SLP Air Box Hot Air Elimination Kit MBRP 136/15/1.5 Ripsaw tracks usa kit Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 15th 2009 at 12:09 AM Post #11
	dragon600mod New Member 52 Posts Group: Members Member Since: September 27th 2009 Location: waterloo, wi
	that 136 kit looks awesome, cant wait to get it on my sled. im just wondering if we could get the different jugs and pistons alone from slp seeing as you and i both have all the other upgrades for the 660 kit, guess we just have to call slp and see for ourself, let me know how your mod goes, ive been looking to get a high comp head for my sled for a long time, but just cant find anyone that has one 2006 fusion dragon slp pipe slp air box v force three reeds heavy hitter clutch kit woodys gold digger studs egt gauges 3 inch powermadd riser sportech pad Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 16th 2009 at 3:31 PM Post #12
	polaris37 Junior Member 175 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 13th 2007 Location: NEWFOUNDLAND, Canada Current Sled: 06-600 fusion 136"track 2008-2009 Miles: 650
	Quote originally posted by dragon600mod that 136 kit looks awesome, cant wait to get it on my sled. im just wondering if we could get the different jugs and pistons alone from slp seeing as you and i both have all the other upgrades for the 660 kit, guess we just have to call slp and see for ourself, let me know how your mod goes, ive been looking to get a high comp head for my sled for a long time, but just cant find anyone that has one what size pilots you use in your sled,me use 35's and clean her right up on bottom end. 2006 600 h.o.fusion-136 x 1 1/4"track extension kit--studded slp pipe set v-force 3 reeds gutted air box and push arm 65g mtx weights and blue/pink primary Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 18th 2009 at 12:46 AM Post #13
	dragon600mod New Member 52 Posts Group: Members Member Since: September 27th 2009 Location: waterloo, wi
	i played around with the pilots, but after a while i just put it back to stock pilots, my sled started to cut out after a while when i held it for a certain period of time 2006 fusion dragon slp pipe slp air box v force three reeds heavy hitter clutch kit woodys gold digger studs egt gauges 3 inch powermadd riser sportech pad Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 20th 2009 at 4:42 PM Post #14
	xcr_racing Average Member 506 Posts Group: Members Member Since: November 22nd 2004 Location: Waterloo, Wisconsin, USA Current Sled: Frankenstein
	Quote originally posted by dragon600mod i played around with the pilots, but after a while i just put it back to stock pilots, my sled started to cut out after a while when i held it for a certain period of time Are you still thinking bout the SSP / BWR 2 wheel kit for the back axle? "SAUER POWER" XC 600 "Frankenstein" Racepak Hot Tach Pro SLP Twin Pipes, HSP Billet Heads, SSP Porting, SLP Air box, Revalved Shocks, Fly Bars, Handguards Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 20th 2009 at 5:01 PM Post #15
	white lightning "The AFTERBURNER" 608 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 23rd 2003 Location: New York, USA Current Sled: '01 XCR800 2008-2009 Miles: 400miles
	I had this kid who came up to me this past summer, stated he works for cycle worx in upstate NY - telling me about how the 660kit is 165hp and Im laughing at him knowing he was trying to BS'ing with me. He was stated he works for them and that he "knows" how many hp the 660kits are and I told him that lve looked at 660 kits aftermakets and its closely 135hp range. He was stated that "they" were doing a special project, secret motor work and produced 165hp out of this race motor for this snowcross racing sled. Im like .... yea ..ok kid, go away so finally he left. Anyway guys / gals, dont let this 660 kit to leave you thinking its not enough. Believe me, this will outrun some of the 800s ... WL My neighbor used to say, " The speed that thrills, the speed that kills " Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 20th 2009 at 5:19 PM  [ Modified October 20th 2009 at 5:42 PM ] Post #16
	motodeficient Waiting for more snow 1358 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 21st 2007 Location: MAINE Current Sled: 04 XC 660 SP 2008-2009 Miles: 800
	My 660 rips pretty good but even with a hotseat single, VF3 reeds, SLP intake, its probably only around 138 HP. No where near 165 HP. Although maybe a race engine with porting, high compression, race gas, twin pipes, it would be possible. The thing I love about the 660 engines is when set up right they make the same HP as a stock 800 VES, but are smoother than butter when revving. The 600 HO probably makes more power as a 660 than my sled does though? Not sure Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 20th 2009 at 6:04 PM Post #17
	polaris37 Junior Member 175 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 13th 2007 Location: NEWFOUNDLAND, Canada Current Sled: 06-600 fusion 136"track 2008-2009 Miles: 650
	stock fusion--120 hp slp say pipe + 10 hp air horn kit + 2-3 hp v-force + 2 hp ???? 660 kit achieves they say 136 peak hp,am i buying a kit for 1-2 hp or are there other above numbers just out to lunch,though i do see very noticeable differences from stock.is it possible that 660 is making more than the claimed numbers, 2006 600 h.o.fusion-136 x 1 1/4"track extension kit--studded slp pipe set v-force 3 reeds gutted air box and push arm 65g mtx weights and blue/pink primary Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 21st 2009 at 7:16 AM Post #18
	white lightning "The AFTERBURNER" 608 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 23rd 2003 Location: New York, USA Current Sled: '01 XCR800 2008-2009 Miles: 400miles
	For extra 30hp (to 165hp) isnt realistic as that kid was stated. Not in a 660 UNLESS he's not telling me hes using nitrious as a secret weapon. WL My neighbor used to say, " The speed that thrills, the speed that kills " Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 21st 2009 at 7:30 AM Post #19
	Rubi Advanced Member 1018 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 1st 2007 Location: Alexandria, MN, USA Current Sled: 2000 XCSP 600 2008-2009 Miles: 1071
	Quote originally posted by white lightning I had this kid who came up to me this past summer, stated he works for cycle worx in upstate NY - telling me about how the 660kit is 165hp and Im laughing at him knowing he was trying to BS'ing with me. He was stated he works for them and that he "knows" how many hp the 660kits are and I told him that lve looked at 660 kits aftermakets and its closely 135hp range. He was stated that "they" were doing a special project, secret motor work and produced 165hp out of this race motor for this snowcross racing sled. Im like .... yea ..ok kid, go away so finally he left. Anyway guys / gals, dont let this 660 kit to leave you thinking its not enough. Believe me, this will outrun some of the 800s ... WL I thought that the new 600 Snocross sleds were putting out a little over 150 HP? If the 660 was running twins and high compression like the 600 race sleds, it seems possible it could run 165 HP. I'm not saying this guy is right, but I don't think he's as far off as the guy on Craigslist right now that claims his Indy 400 goes 110 mph. 1990 Indy 400 (Slightly modded with welded tunnel cracks and various used Indy parts from models throughout the 90's) 2006 Stihl Chainsaw 1980's Vintage Lawnboy Lawnmower 2005 Husqvarna Weed Whacker (It sucks to rewind the string, but that 31cc motor sure is torquey!) 2000 Polaris XCSP Edge 600 (1.5" Track, 22x40 gearing, Aaen exhaust, Student Driver pivot riser package) 2008 RMK 600 144" Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 21st 2009 at 7:48 AM Post #20
	white lightning "The AFTERBURNER" 608 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 23rd 2003 Location: New York, USA Current Sled: '01 XCR800 2008-2009 Miles: 400miles
	rubi, stock 600s is about 120hp - if a guy says 110 on his Indy 400, its because his dream-o-meter is way way off. I know because I rode my buddy's '88 Indy 400 across the lake one year and had it go over 100mph too. Speedo was way off. WL. My neighbor used to say, " The speed that thrills, the speed that kills " Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 21st 2009 at 7:53 AM Post #21
	Rubi Advanced Member 1018 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 1st 2007 Location: Alexandria, MN, USA Current Sled: 2000 XCSP 600 2008-2009 Miles: 1071
	^^^I'm not talking about a stock 600. I'm talking about the SnoX race sleds that are ported and polished to the hilt, run high compression with pure race gas, and twin pipes. The 440 SnoX sleds were over 135 HP. Am I wrong? Somebody who knows what the race sleds have please answer, because I'm definitely not sure. 1990 Indy 400 (Slightly modded with welded tunnel cracks and various used Indy parts from models throughout the 90's) 2006 Stihl Chainsaw 1980's Vintage Lawnboy Lawnmower 2005 Husqvarna Weed Whacker (It sucks to rewind the string, but that 31cc motor sure is torquey!) 2000 Polaris XCSP Edge 600 (1.5" Track, 22x40 gearing, Aaen exhaust, Student Driver pivot riser package) 2008 RMK 600 144" Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 21st 2009 at 8:50 AM Post #22
	polaris37 Junior Member 175 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 13th 2007 Location: NEWFOUNDLAND, Canada Current Sled: 06-600 fusion 136"track 2008-2009 Miles: 650
	Quote originally posted by polaris37 stock fusion--120 hp slp say pipe + 10 hp air horn kit + 2-3 hp v-force + 2 hp ???? 660 kit achieves they say 136 peak hp,am i buying a kit for 1-2 hp or are there other above numbers just out to lunch,though i do see very noticeable differences from stock.is it possible that 660 is making more than the claimed numbers, does anyone actually have the experience of having the above and then adding 660 kit after--if so what noticeable diiference if any.looking on paper for 2 hp i'm wasting my money but lots of guys rave about 660 kits. 2006 600 h.o.fusion-136 x 1 1/4"track extension kit--studded slp pipe set v-force 3 reeds gutted air box and push arm 65g mtx weights and blue/pink primary Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 21st 2009 at 8:53 AM  [ Modified October 21st 2009 at 8:58 AM ] Post #23
	white lightning "The AFTERBURNER" 608 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 23rd 2003 Location: New York, USA Current Sled: '01 XCR800 2008-2009 Miles: 400miles
	Ported, polished, high compression heads, pipes - Id still stand - you wont bring it from 120 stock to 165hp unless youre running all of that stuff plus nitrious. Unless youre running higher CC. WL. P37, its all depends on what you are looking for. I believe with a 660kit, its about $1,500 To get SLP pipes, airhorns, vf3 - IMO, Id say go for the 660 if you can afford it - trust me, you wouldnt be disappointed. Call Carl's Cycle to get more informations. He'd steer you to the right direction. WL. My neighbor used to say, " The speed that thrills, the speed that kills " Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 21st 2009 at 9:55 AM Post #24
	white lightning "The AFTERBURNER" 608 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 23rd 2003 Location: New York, USA Current Sled: '01 XCR800 2008-2009 Miles: 400miles
	http://www.bikemanperformance.com/produc...5c2e8006d9 check this out ... My neighbor used to say, " The speed that thrills, the speed that kills " Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 21st 2009 at 10:22 AM Post #25
	white lightning "The AFTERBURNER" 608 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 23rd 2003 Location: New York, USA Current Sled: '01 XCR800 2008-2009 Miles: 400miles
	I did my math on making the 600 all out full blown racing for snowcross - Ive came up with about between 145, maybe max up to 150. I dont see how that kid came up with 165. Doesnt seem right so I dont think you can gain that much out of a 600cc. My neighbor used to say, " The speed that thrills, the speed that kills " Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit