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Freestyle Ramp Designing
- Me and a friend are pitching in and building one
started by sledcrusher
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October 15th 2009 at 6:18 PM
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sledcrusher
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So, I know I'm going to get a lot of negative replies on this, but, I would like some people WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE IN RAMP BUILDING to comment and give me some advice. Im not looking for a ton of post or replies, just good ones. Here's my current design: On the paper, I meant to write 1 foot 6", not 8" If you cant read it. It's 12.5" for every inch on the page. That makes it a total of 9 feet tall, and 12 long. We don't plan on just building a 20 foot gap to a 10 foot tall landing. We plan on building the landing, and putting the ramp only a couple feet from it, get perfect at that ( which something that for wont take long ), then move it back and back until we're used to it.
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October 15th 2009 at 6:27 PM
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Twill08
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October 15th 2009 at 7:19 PM
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sledcrusher
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Twill08, that's actually EXACTLY what I was looking for, something along the lines of that. After seeing those designs, compared to mine, mine sucked. I'm liking the Comp Ramp. It doesn't seem to have way to much of an angle, just perfect for learning some small freestyle stuff. Im pretty sure thats what the 2 variations of ramps at the snowmobile show were, Comp and Super Kicker. The super kicker was putting them up a good 35-40 feet, where as the Comp ramp was putting them 20-25. I'm only looking to go 15-20. Somewhere in that range to learn with.
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October 15th 2009 at 7:30 PM
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October 15th 2009 at 7:34 PM
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jonny_little94
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my buddy and i just made a comp ramp about 2 weeks ago. give me your email address and i can email the plans to you.
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October 15th 2009 at 7:45 PM
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Sno-X-treme
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How much jumping experience do you have?? I ride at Evolution Sled park and they have an F-Head ramp....little cute thing. I think it's just a comp ramp but shorter so you're not getting as much pop. Like take a comp and stop at the #2 or #3 circle. It'll keep it tame and a good learning ramp. When the time comes you can just start propping the end of it up to get more lift. And it'd be pretty easy to continue and add more to make a full comp ramp for next season.
Here's some pics of my buddies on the F-Head....it's easy but it's also really close to the landing.
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October 15th 2009 at 8:04 PM
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sledcrusher
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Im not looking at doing anything to big, so the smaller ramp may be better. I want a ramp that I can start small, and slowly move my way up, because that's how you learn right, step by step? I'm not looking at doing superman seat grabs or anything like that, just simple freestyle, as well as some straight airs.
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October 15th 2009 at 8:09 PM
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Sno-X-treme
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Build something like the F-head. You can set it right next to the landing and start pulling it back. Then when that's not enough start propping it up.
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October 15th 2009 at 8:48 PM
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sledcrusher
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It should be more than plenty the whole time if we build it. Thanks.
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October 16th 2009 at 9:18 AM
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sedz
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Definatly build a scs comp ramp, that way if you do catch on and end up pushing it back a bunch you have a properly designed ramp made for a 60ft distance.
If you build a smaller mellower ramp you will get bored with it quickly and u wont have the hang time u want to learn tricks.
More importantly make sure u build a proper landing, ramp will just be unsafe without a good landing.
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October 16th 2009 at 3:57 PM
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sledcrusher
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Hey seds, that's what I was thinking. A steep ramp will just shoot me vertical, and I'll spend more time practicing getting the landings perfect than anything else. I doubt I'll be going 60 feet off a comp ramp though. Maybe in another year or two if I get enough practice in.
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October 18th 2009 at 4:57 PM
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sledcrusher
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Here's what I designed. I took the design of the SCS Comp Ramp, cut the top off of it, and scaled it to the size I wanted, and this was the result.  Not so much a vertical freestyle ramp. This will make us able to put it where we want by trailer, whether it be for a small road gap with a drop on the side of the road for a landing, or nice powder landing, or a step up, or a snow pile landing. It's looking like if we build it out of wood ( we're doing it right with wood, not just lobbing them together and hoping for the best, using screws instead of nails ). I know a lot of people will say "building it with wood is dumb", but I think if it has the correct connectors in it, as well as using the right screws, along with using pressure treated wood and putting sealer on most of it, it should hold up pretty well I think. We will be using 3/4" plywood for the actual ramp, with, we were thinking, cut up bedliners for the skis to reduce drag, and tracks for traction up the ramp. We are buying a 16 foot long run up mat, that will go onto the first foot of the ramp, it make sure nothing gets caught up, and we will also put snow between the mat and ramp to keep it from binding causing a possible accident. How wide should a ramp be? I'm thinking 5 1/2 feet?
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October 18th 2009 at 6:12 PM
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sledcrusher
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Here is the updated design. The V's mean vertical board heights. There are 10 vertical boards, minus the back boards. The total of that was 269". I had to divide that by 12, which was 22.42 feet of board ( roughly ), and since I am doing 3 boards for each one ( to make this ramp strong ), that comes to 67.25 feet of board ( roughly ). Pressure treated 2x4x8's are just under $3 after tax, so my total price for those boards are $201.75. Then the base boards, and the back boards, as well as the center supports are about 70 feet worth of boards, that divided by 8 is $26.25. The plywood for the ramp is is 17 1/2 feet, by whatever I end up going with for width. I haven't looked up prices on the plywood yet, but I plan on going with 3/4".
For making it easier to move around, we've decided to put some old metal snowmobile skis on the front, with a small trailer hitch on a base board that will be screwed down and connected to all of the other base boards, as well as vertical boards. It's hard to explain. We will then put actual SKIING skis towards the front of the ramp to help it slide. This is just to help us get it off the trailer, and then the 30-40 feet to wherever its going, or just moving it around. I figure it'll be easier than trying to drag boards across the ground when the thing weighs hundreds of pounds.
Anyone else have some input on this?
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Heres some ROUGH size comparisons. It may be anywhere from 5-15" off in size either way.
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October 19th 2009 at 11:21 AM
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sedz
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Plywood is really expensive, i think we spent well over $200 on decking our comp ramp.
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October 19th 2009 at 11:59 AM
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I'm not slamming your thread, but wouldn't you rather spend the time and money you will have into this project into time just riding and going on trips. There is also the chance of trashing your sled and worse yet your body. Just thought I would throw that out there.
If you have really thought it through and have your parents blessings, I say do it, but don't do it 1/2 AZZ. Do a professional ramp. Not much room for error here.
I would say save your cash and go to one of these parks where a pro can coach you before invest a ton of time and money first. Unless you plan to compete in the near future I just don't see it as a wise investment, but if you will be competative do it 100% right!
Good luck whatever you decide;)
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October 19th 2009 at 2:43 PM
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sledcrusher
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I seriously messed up my math on that. Big time. It looks like its only going to cost $200 or so AFTER the decking.
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October 19th 2009 at 5:18 PM
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Quote originally posted by sledcrusher
I seriously messed up my math on that. Big time. It looks like its only going to cost $200 or so AFTER the decking.
Good luck with that.
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October 19th 2009 at 5:44 PM
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sedz
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Quote originally posted by TRICKPaint
I'm not slamming your thread, but wouldn't you rather spend the time and money you will have into this project into time just riding and going on trips. There is also the chance of trashing your sled and worse yet your body. Just thought I would throw that out there.
If you have really thought it through and have your parents blessings, I say do it, but don't do it 1/2 AZZ. Do a professional ramp. Not much room for error here.
I would say save your cash and go to one of these parks where a pro can coach you before invest a ton of time and money first. Unless you plan to compete in the near future I just don't see it as a wise investment, but if you will be competative do it 100% right!
Good luck whatever you decide;)
Some good points there, but keep in mind hes riding a trail sled...trust me ramping a normal zx is gonna ruin it. Seems like alot of time, effort and money building a ramp that really isn't gonna let u progress down the road. A mellow ramp isnt gonna give u the time u need to properly learn tricks (especailly harder ones) ur gonna have to push it back further then a comp ramp just to get 3/4 of the hang time. You really never know how fast ur gonna catch on, a friend of mine hit a ramp for the first time in 07 and basically reached a pro level by the next season. Just takes practice and some natural talent doesnt hurt. Either way ramps are a ton of fun, we invested thousands in building ramps and landings and none of us are or plan on making a living doing it. Its all about fun.
The plus side is unlike snow this ramp wont rut out, they are safer then hitting snow jumps.
Quote originally posted by sledcrusher
I seriously messed up my math on that. Big time. It looks like its only going to cost $200 or so AFTER the decking.
Your math sounds off, u need to make the ramp 6ft wide. Ive slipped a ski off a 6ft wide comp ramp, you cant turn on these things if ur commin in off angle...a narrower ramp to save on materials isnt safe.
If ur gonna build it make it safe and build a propper landing
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October 19th 2009 at 5:50 PM
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Im hoping i dont see a youtube video titled "Fail" regarding this video in the winter. Good luck.
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October 19th 2009 at 7:09 PM
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sledcrusher
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I know to make the ramp 6 feet wide. That was my plan. I can scan and post all the sizes, with prices of what I'm paying for wood, etc..
The ramp isn't really going to be used for much freestyle. Maybe a small nac nac, no hander, no footer. It's more so something we can make portable. I have figured out how to trailer it behind the sled as well. I am putting a snow board in the exact center of the ramp, then some actual skiing skis on the back of it, to allow it to slide around in the back. The front will have 2 snowmobile skis attached to it on the far sides, and one in the center. I am then running a metal bar across all 3 skis, with a swing arm on it. So all 3 skis will be attached to one tow hitch, which will attach to my sled. The erason for the 3 skis, and then the one solid connector is to keep the wooden ramp from flexing. I don't plan on doing 50 while towing this rampboggan ( thats what im calling it ), only 5-15mph, depending on the trails. I will not try to tow it down skinny trails either.
For the record, I don't plan on hitting it with a trail sled. Im getting a ProX 440 or a Rev 440 in a couple weeks. Im dedicating this whole winter on learning how to go big.
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October 19th 2009 at 7:49 PM
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^^ just remember if you are going to mess up always go for the trasition on the landing ramp
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October 19th 2009 at 8:33 PM
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October 19th 2009 at 8:38 PM
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How is that gonna work?? 
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October 19th 2009 at 8:44 PM
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sledcrusher
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The last jump in the video, notice where I land. Then go another 10-15 feet, and put the ramp. We'll come flying through the private trail, down a small section of field, hit the ramp, and land down the hill we were jumping.
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October 19th 2009 at 11:32 PM
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if that is your projected landing area, it needs to be much longer than that, I have a feeling that you will end up flat landing that due to it being a very short incline. Unless the video doesn't do this landing justice, which I know videos don't. If it was me, I would build a landing that is the same height as the ramp with a fairly steep decline in it. Just my $.02
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