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91 F-350 No power to coil
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October 20th 2009 at 8:25 PM
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heinzsnowmobiler
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Hey I got a 91 F-350 351W. When I got the truck it had no spark. I replaced coil, distrib, pickup, Ignition module, wires and plugs and still no spark. The most power I see with teh key on is around 3 volts on the positive side and I don`t see any power while cranking on either side? There are no fuses under the dash labeled IGN, are there inline fuses? Can I hotwire the coil to see if I can get spark?? Just to add in teh Injectors are working as I can smell Gas.
96 F-250 Powerstroke 4x4 5spd 400hp lifted n all that good stuff
86'yamaha enticer 340=1500 miles
95'polaris indy 500=2100 miles Fresh motor, Gutted air box, xtra-10
96' Indy trail 500 Fan=5000 miles
97'vmax 500 liquid=8900miles
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October 20th 2009 at 8:27 PM
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xcr440
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xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
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stator??
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 21st 2009 at 12:22 PM
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picman
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picman is off to bag his buck. I hope. Skunked so far.
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Does this year have a Thick Film ?? I can't think of the last past. My 88 150 had one. There was a recall on them due to them failing. Not sure if later years still had them. It is a small unit mounted near the base of the distributor (back side if I remember right) about the size of a pack of gum. If that goes, you have no spark either.
Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it
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October 21st 2009 at 12:25 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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that should be the ignition module.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 21st 2009 at 1:34 PM
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picman
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picman is off to bag his buck. I hope. Skunked so far.
Updated Wednesday at 1:17 PM
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308 Posts
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Member Since: January 15th 2009
Location: Marinette, WI, USA
Current Sled: 1998 Polaris Ultra
2008-2009 Miles: 1145
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Guess I am confusing something on my newer truck with the old one.
Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it
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October 21st 2009 at 1:40 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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maybe. What I am talking about would be gray, with 2 screws holding it down about 2" by 5" at most about 1/2" thick with a plug in on it. Would be plastic and aluminum.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 21st 2009 at 2:00 PM
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picman
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picman is off to bag his buck. I hope. Skunked so far.
Updated Wednesday at 1:17 PM
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308 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 15th 2009
Location: Marinette, WI, USA
Current Sled: 1998 Polaris Ultra
2008-2009 Miles: 1145
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Yup. That is what I was thinking about. Ford put them right on top o fthe block where they absorbed heat and that caused them to fail.
I like my Ford trucks but they can be a pain to fix. Guess I am just getting old. I can remember crawling into the engine compartment to work on a straight 6.
Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it
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October 21st 2009 at 4:32 PM
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heinzsnowmobiler
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All the ignition componenets are tested and good. I have 6.01 volts at the right wire to the coil and zero volts on the left wire while cranking. Fusible links are good and the pcm will pull codes?? im lost
96 F-250 Powerstroke 4x4 5spd 400hp lifted n all that good stuff
86'yamaha enticer 340=1500 miles
95'polaris indy 500=2100 miles Fresh motor, Gutted air box, xtra-10
96' Indy trail 500 Fan=5000 miles
97'vmax 500 liquid=8900miles
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October 21st 2009 at 5:28 PM
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Raptor700rBronson
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Raptor700rBronson gettin modern warfare 2 and fallout 3 tomorrow!!!
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I gotta think cause my truck did that the day i put the motor in and it was something stupid.
Theres no inline fuses, at least on my 93 351
Go to Ford Truck Enthusiasts forum and theyll straighten it out for ya.
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October 22nd 2009 at 8:50 PM
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heinzsnowmobiler
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after tracing the entire wire harness I found nothing and then started doing continuity tests and found excessive resistance to coil power wire. Replaced the plug and bingo shes fixed. Now I need a new fuel pump :(
96 F-250 Powerstroke 4x4 5spd 400hp lifted n all that good stuff
86'yamaha enticer 340=1500 miles
95'polaris indy 500=2100 miles Fresh motor, Gutted air box, xtra-10
96' Indy trail 500 Fan=5000 miles
97'vmax 500 liquid=8900miles
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October 22nd 2009 at 9:02 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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sweet. you knew it was something silly.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 22nd 2009 at 9:06 PM
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Raptor700rBronson
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Raptor700rBronson gettin modern warfare 2 and fallout 3 tomorrow!!!
Updated Last Sunday at 7:20 PM
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1087 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 28th 2008
Location: Ohio, NY, Cuba
Current Sled: 2002 ZR 500 Cross-Country
2008-2009 Miles: 708
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As soon as you take those straps of the tank to put the pump in theres goona be leaks...mine has 60,000 miles and both tanks were shot right where the straps ride.
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October 22nd 2009 at 9:11 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Take the box off. That's how they do it in the dealer. Has that truck had the new pump baffles put in???? If not make ford do it. mine was pumping fuel from the back tank into the front. The return were messed up. Ford replaced both pumps on a 15 year old truck under a recall. I thought that was pretty sweet.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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October 22nd 2009 at 9:15 PM
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Raptor700rBronson
Advanced Member
Raptor700rBronson gettin modern warfare 2 and fallout 3 tomorrow!!!
Updated Last Sunday at 7:20 PM
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1087 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 28th 2008
Location: Ohio, NY, Cuba
Current Sled: 2002 ZR 500 Cross-Country
2008-2009 Miles: 708
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^^^I got a recall for my 93 yesterday for the cruise control or something catchin on fire
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October 22nd 2009 at 9:32 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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yeah, that just a fused jumper wire and they check to see if any fluid is leaking. I have had that done for awhile.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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