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Headgasket Q`s
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October 21st 2009 at 3:36 AM
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tdiguy69
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Location: Huron Park, Ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 95 xcr 600
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I went and replaced my head gasket on my 95 xcr 600 monoblock. However in the confusion i realized we didnt lock tite the head bolts.
My questions are
Do i need to lock tite the head bolts...if so red or blue. and whats the proper tq for them.
Second does the water jacket need lock tite(red or blue) and whats the proper tq for them as well.
Thanks alot guys the girl at the dealer was useless couldnt tell me anything.
1995 Polaris xcr 600
Cobra windscreen (white with checkers)-----------Purple grills
Plastic skis (purple)----------------------------Coolant heater
Skid plate---------------------------------------DG Silencer Can
Hand and thumb warmer + visor--------------------2 Inch Bar Riser
Sportech headlight and tail light covers (purple)
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Studs (purple backers)
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October 21st 2009 at 10:17 AM
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XLT96rider
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I don't use loc-tite on anything on the engine except for clutch bolt. I believe head bolt torque is 20 ft lbs.
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October 21st 2009 at 10:25 AM
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Zippi
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i wouldnt worry about loc tite on the head bolts...you are torqueing them anyway so they're stretching. Not a big deal. The manuel for that sled says 17-20 ft lbs.
You can loc tite anything you want. if the bolt is threading into steel use red. Threading into aluminum, use blue.
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October 21st 2009 at 10:37 AM
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xcr440
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17-20 ft. lbs. I don't use loctite or any lube on the bolts as it gives a false torque reading.
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October 21st 2009 at 11:55 AM
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tdiguy69
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Location: Huron Park, Ontario, Canada
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Okay awesome thanks guys. Saves me from tearing it open.
1995 Polaris xcr 600
Cobra windscreen (white with checkers)-----------Purple grills
Plastic skis (purple)----------------------------Coolant heater
Skid plate---------------------------------------DG Silencer Can
Hand and thumb warmer + visor--------------------2 Inch Bar Riser
Sportech headlight and tail light covers (purple)
Runing board trim (purple)
Studs (purple backers)
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October 21st 2009 at 2:13 PM
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white lightning
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I agree with above posts - never use loc-tite on anything on the engine, especially with the "red" WL
My neighbor used to say, " The speed that thrills, the speed that kills "
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October 21st 2009 at 7:47 PM
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Blackcat
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Don't loctite your head bolts, especially since it's steel bolt against aluminum. Sure blue is lighter, but steel and aluminum tend to "weld" together enough on it's own and you risk pulling threads out of the head enough with out needing any extra help.
Quote originally posted by xcr440
17-20 ft. lbs. I don't use loctite or any lube on the bolts as it gives a false torque reading.
Actually lube gives you a more accurate torque reading since you are eliminating the friction caused by rust and corrosion. A rusty bolt or threads can torque to spec before the head touches the surface.
Don't believe me, check out engine rebuilding manuals, they all say to lube the head bolts in oil before installing for accurate torque specs.
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October 21st 2009 at 7:55 PM
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xcr440
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xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
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Quote originally posted by Blackcat
Don't loctite your head bolts, especially since it's steel bolt against aluminum. Sure blue is lighter, but steel and aluminum tend to "weld" together enough on it's own and you risk pulling threads out of the head enough with out needing any extra help.
Quote originally posted by xcr440
17-20 ft. lbs. I don't use loctite or any lube on the bolts as it gives a false torque reading.
Actually lube gives you a more accurate torque reading since you are eliminating the friction caused by rust and corrosion. A rusty bolt or threads can torque to spec before the head touches the surface.
Don't believe me, check out engine rebuilding manuals, they all say to lube the head bolts in oil before installing for accurate torque specs.
Yes you are correct in that but if too much lube is added to the bolt and hole it could give a false reading, especially at the 20 ft. lb. range.
Usually my bolts are wraped in a oily rag so that they are moist but not dripping in oil.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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