Chainsaws - What is your favorite? started by Mad-Boondocker
	October 22nd 2009 at 2:53 PM Post #26
	picman Junior Member picman is off to bag his buck. I hope. Skunked so far. Updated Wednesday at 1:17 PM 308 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 15th 2009 Location: Marinette, WI, USA Current Sled: 1998 Polaris Ultra 2008-2009 Miles: 1145
	Sure send it. I can't open that link here at work. Our dang internet filter blocks out many sites. Including "shopping". Hope Erik never changes how he has this site setup. I would never have time at home to be on here. Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

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	October 22nd 2009 at 3:30 PM Post #27
	xcr440 Sundowners Trail Coordinator xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Updated 18 minutes ago 12578 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 1st 2003 Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440 2008-2009 Miles: 610
	Quote originally posted by picman What is the brand and model? I will need new boots this year. Split the sole on the old hunting boots I was using. Mine are actully 10" hoffmans. a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours! "Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks. 2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains 1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 22nd 2009 at 3:47 PM Post #28
	picman Junior Member picman is off to bag his buck. I hope. Skunked so far. Updated Wednesday at 1:17 PM 308 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 15th 2009 Location: Marinette, WI, USA Current Sled: 1998 Polaris Ultra 2008-2009 Miles: 1145
	Are those legal at the local golf course?? I didn't realize they had spikes. Now I understand why you won't wear them in the house. Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 22nd 2009 at 4:04 PM Post #29
	tazzracing1 Junior Member 124 Posts Group: Members Member Since: September 14th 2009 Current Sled: 1998 ZR600 EFI
	I have huskies. I did own and older poulan pro that was a nice saw. I do like the sthils also but I got the deals on the huskies. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 22nd 2009 at 4:07 PM  [ Modified October 22nd 2009 at 4:09 PM ] Post #30
	xcr440 Sundowners Trail Coordinator xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Updated 18 minutes ago 12578 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 1st 2003 Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440 2008-2009 Miles: 610
	Quote originally posted by picman Are those legal at the local golf course?? I didn't realize they had spikes. Now I understand why you won't wear them in the house. no they arn't legal....they need to be plastic or spikeless Quote originally posted by tazzracing1 I have huskies. I did own and older poulan pro that was a nice saw. I do like the sthils also but I got the deals on the huskies. Dealers can make and break a company I like huskies just not their bar and chain combo. a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours! "Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks. 2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains 1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 22nd 2009 at 7:01 PM Post #31
	Mad-Boondocker Only way to take on FEAR is to take it head on 751 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 19th 2009 Location: East Otto, NY, USA Current Sled: 98 Polaris Indy 500 Mod 2008-2009 Miles: 185
	Matt I own a 250 and that saw is really nice I am sure that 270 would be better but Those new 250's have a good amount of power 1998 Polaris Indy 500 chassis with 98 Xc 600 motor SLP ceramic coated pipe with SLP can V-force reeds 4 inch pivot riser Gutted Air Box EPI clutch kit soon to be installed Maybe some pro tapers 1998 XC 700 water-cross sled SLP twin pipes Some light weight parts Water-cross mods include taking the parts u do not need This includes removing the seat replacing gas tank and IFS bars. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 22nd 2009 at 9:31 PM Post #32
	triplefever Junior Member 108 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 20th 2009 Location: saginaw, michigan Current Sled: 1999 zr600 snopro 2008-2009 Miles: 3049
	Quote originally posted by xcr440 Quote originally posted by motodeficient Quote originally posted by xcr440 how much? what did they do? I want to send my 044 to snell but can't justifiy the $$$ just yet, I sent it to brad snelling in ohio. Search for BLSNELLING on youtube, He ported the cylinder and piston, did some work on the transfers, lowered the squish, opened up the muffler, and got her dialed in just right. He charges $250 including return shipping. I have him as a favorite. I watch his stuff all the time. Quote originally posted by arcticcatmatt Funny this topic comes up. I am buying a chainsaw in the next week. Looking at Stihl MS270 because my dad has one and I love it. They are $439+ tax for 18" with quick adjust. I was looking at the 280 and 290 also because one of them was just $60 more and was rated at 2x the life and metal side cover or some crap like that. I had a 270. I wasn't crazy about it. It was a good saw and ran excellant. I hated the quick adjust. When you change chains and flip the bar you have to take the sprocket and put it on the other side. I perfer the 260. Yes the 260 it cost more. but it has a better feeling in the hand. My wife uncles just went together and bought a 290 18" .325 with 2 chains, files and a gallon of oil. For around $350, I think that's what they said. It is the bigger frame saw but a good performer in the stihl lineup. What size chain matt? please don't say .325...please. While that chain is good. It is not as nice as the 3/8" The .325 is good for the average home owner. Which you are not matt. You cut more wood than the average home owner. Get the chisel chain also. You know what you are doing kick back wise you don't need a safety chain. Anyone wear chaps???? I finally bought mu first pair. You never know what can happen with a sharp chain spinning very fast. Quote originally posted by triplefever wow a topic i deal with all the time...this is what i do for a living...i own stihls a ms250 ms200t ms192t 044 and a 088 with a big bore ported and polished piped and jetted unlimited coil i have everything from a 12in bar to a 6 foot bar now dont get me wrong huascvarna's are really good saws too they dont vibrate as much but they dont have the rpms that a stihl has but still a really good saw This a dear to the heart topic as I cut wood for 2 houses and drop the occosional tree for a customer. I am far from a tree pruner as I drop everything I cut. well i trim climb and cut down everyday for work and my many customers... ;p Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 22nd 2009 at 9:40 PM Post #33
	xcr440 Sundowners Trail Coordinator xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Updated 18 minutes ago 12578 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 1st 2003 Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440 2008-2009 Miles: 610
	I have wanted to climb but just don't have the nerve..... a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours! "Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks. 2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains 1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 22nd 2009 at 10:07 PM Post #34
	triplefever Junior Member 108 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 20th 2009 Location: saginaw, michigan Current Sled: 1999 zr600 snopro 2008-2009 Miles: 3049
	Quote originally posted by xcr440 I have wanted to climb but just don't have the nerve..... its fun once you get the hang of it Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 22nd 2009 at 10:16 PM Post #35
	xcr440 Sundowners Trail Coordinator xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Updated 18 minutes ago 12578 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 1st 2003 Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440 2008-2009 Miles: 610
	I guess the the biggest thing it trusting the rope and to lean against it.??? a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours! "Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks. 2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains 1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 22nd 2009 at 11:49 PM Post #36
	triplefever Junior Member 108 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 20th 2009 Location: saginaw, michigan Current Sled: 1999 zr600 snopro 2008-2009 Miles: 3049
	trusting your equipment is the first fear to overcome the second is trusting yourself...and balance is good to have lol Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 23rd 2009 at 8:01 PM Post #37
	xcr440 Sundowners Trail Coordinator xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Updated 18 minutes ago 12578 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 1st 2003 Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440 2008-2009 Miles: 610
	I just picked up a nice looking super split splitting ax. A few buddies swear by them. a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours! "Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks. 2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains 1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 23rd 2009 at 8:14 PM Post #38
	POLARISDOMINATOR ride to live live to ride POLARISDOMINATOR relationship issues!!! it wont matter when thers snow on the gorund and im not home where she can find me! Updated Monday at 11:13 PM 137 Posts Group: Members Member Since: August 17th 2009 Location: marinette, wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 95' Polaris Indy XCR 600
	i like the stihl magnum never owned one but seen em at the dealership i got the stihl farmboss ive also had good luck with the husqvarnas but pouland's always break on me 95 xcr 600 trip. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 23rd 2009 at 8:31 PM Post #39
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14006 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	xcr440- you asked what chain I am getting.. I have no clue. That was not provided to me as an option. There are NO deals on Stilhs that I have found. Everyone is the same exact price. I called 7 places. The prices they sell for on ebay are stupid. Lightly used ones sell for 10 bucks shy of what I can buy them new for. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 23rd 2009 at 8:39 PM Post #40
	xcr440 Sundowners Trail Coordinator xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Updated 18 minutes ago 12578 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 1st 2003 Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440 2008-2009 Miles: 610
	You won't find a "deal" over the phone. They never know if you are a "stihl" person seeing if you are selling way too cheap. Best bet is to go into your"local" store and talk to them face to face. MY wifes uncles picked up their 290 for $350 out the door with 2 files, 2 chains, guard, gallon of stihl oil. I went to my local farm store and husky were way nore expensive than the stihl. Stihl will never sell their stuff over the internet. Their dealer net work is what makes them. Keep an eye on ebay. deals do come along. My brother has a good used 021 16" for sale if anyones looking. a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours! "Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks. 2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains 1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 23rd 2009 at 8:46 PM Post #41
	triplefever Junior Member 108 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 20th 2009 Location: saginaw, michigan Current Sled: 1999 zr600 snopro 2008-2009 Miles: 3049
	Quote originally posted by arcticcatmatt xcr440- you asked what chain I am getting.. I have no clue. That was not provided to me as an option. There are NO deals on Stilhs that I have found. Everyone is the same exact price. I called 7 places. The prices they sell for on ebay are stupid. Lightly used ones sell for 10 bucks shy of what I can buy them new for. i run into used stihls and huskys all the time good ones at that too so if you want i can let you know when and how much...i picked up my 066 for 250 bucks used just to show you what i can get Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 24th 2009 at 7:07 AM  [ Modified October 24th 2009 at 7:08 AM ] Post #42
	motodeficient Waiting for more snow 1358 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 21st 2007 Location: MAINE Current Sled: 04 XC 660 SP 2008-2009 Miles: 800
	How about some chainsaw pictures? Here is a Husky 268(68cc) that I got for $40. Had 60psi compression when I got it, pretty obvious why. I put a new 272 (72cc) piston and cylinder on. Also ended up replacing almost every part on the saw to get it running right. Here is an old Homelite Zip 5 82cc (1959) that I found in our barn and cleaned up and got running. The bottom pic is next to my MS 361 Here is a Jonsered 510sp that I fixed up (before and during) Heres my MS 361 before port job Couple piston & cylinder pictures of a husky 50 I rebuilt Couple pictures of the saws at the wood piles Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 24th 2009 at 7:29 AM Post #43
	picman Junior Member picman is off to bag his buck. I hope. Skunked so far. Updated Wednesday at 1:17 PM 308 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 15th 2009 Location: Marinette, WI, USA Current Sled: 1998 Polaris Ultra 2008-2009 Miles: 1145
	Quote originally posted by arcticcatmatt xcr440- you asked what chain I am getting.. I have no clue. That was not provided to me as an option. There are NO deals on Stilhs that I have found. Everyone is the same exact price. I called 7 places. The prices they sell for on ebay are stupid. Lightly used ones sell for 10 bucks shy of what I can buy them new for. Once you get into a store and actually talk about the saw, price and what they might throw into the deal, you can talk about the chain. DO NOT GET THE "SAFETY" chain. You will regret it. Take xcr440's advice. Unless you are a TOTAL rookie with a saw, they are not needed. xcr440, are you talking about a splitting maul? Or is there something special about this one? A dual angle head perhaps? Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 24th 2009 at 9:28 AM  [ Modified October 24th 2009 at 9:30 AM ] Post #44
	xcr440 Sundowners Trail Coordinator xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Updated 18 minutes ago 12578 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 1st 2003 Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440 2008-2009 Miles: 610
	026 and 038 023 044 True tempue super splitting ax. moto, you work at a logging yard or a wood proceesor??? a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours! "Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks. 2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains 1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 24th 2009 at 9:40 AM Post #45
	picman Junior Member picman is off to bag his buck. I hope. Skunked so far. Updated Wednesday at 1:17 PM 308 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 15th 2009 Location: Marinette, WI, USA Current Sled: 1998 Polaris Ultra 2008-2009 Miles: 1145
	Yeah, that is what I was thinking of. My regular splitting maul is still in good shape but once it goes, looks like the thing to buy. My back is not getting any younger! Find the line between respect and fear....then flirt with it Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 24th 2009 at 11:57 AM Post #46
	motodeficient Waiting for more snow 1358 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 21st 2007 Location: MAINE Current Sled: 04 XC 660 SP 2008-2009 Miles: 800
	Quote originally posted by xcr440 moto, you work at a logging yard or a wood proceesor??? Nope, my father-in-law sells wood on the side and I help him out here and there. Skidder, hydraulic splitter, and chainsaws Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 24th 2009 at 12:06 PM  [ Modified October 24th 2009 at 12:08 PM ] Post #47
	xcr440 Sundowners Trail Coordinator xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Updated 18 minutes ago 12578 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 1st 2003 Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440 2008-2009 Miles: 610
	oh. Must have a good business. I need to find a place like that. Around here it is mainly tree business(trimmers) that sell the stuff. Quote originally posted by picman Quote originally posted by arcticcatmatt xcr440- you asked what chain I am getting.. I have no clue. That was not provided to me as an option. There are NO deals on Stilhs that I have found. Everyone is the same exact price. I called 7 places. The prices they sell for on ebay are stupid. Lightly used ones sell for 10 bucks shy of what I can buy them new for. Once you get into a store and actually talk about the saw, price and what they might throw into the deal, you can talk about the chain. DO NOT GET THE "SAFETY" chain. You will regret it. Take xcr440's advice. Unless you are a TOTAL rookie with a saw, they are not needed. xcr440, are you talking about a splitting maul? Or is there something special about this one? A dual angle head perhaps? And a pain is the a$$ to sharpen when you have to take the rakes down. Makes a 10 minute job into an hour. a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours! "Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks. 2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains 1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 24th 2009 at 1:11 PM Post #48
	motodeficient Waiting for more snow 1358 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 21st 2007 Location: MAINE Current Sled: 04 XC 660 SP 2008-2009 Miles: 800
	Oh heres a pic of a little Ryobi I got refurbished for $110 shipped. If you are ever on arborist site there is some good info on it. Brad snelling did a port job on one and couldn't believe such a quality engine was in it. It looks cheesy but underneath the plastic is a pro engine with bolt on cylinder. Its a fun little saw, i really only use this and my MS361 now. I drilled the muffler out to give it a little more power. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 25th 2009 at 10:46 AM Post #49
	motodeficient Waiting for more snow 1358 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 21st 2007 Location: MAINE Current Sled: 04 XC 660 SP 2008-2009 Miles: 800
	I will say if anyone is crazy like me and wants to get their saw ported, brad snelling is awesome. I sent my saw out on a Thursday and had it back in my hands the following friday. He will usually do it the day he gets it or the day after. In addition to the power increase, the throttle response is unbelievable on a ported saw. It revs very very quickly, and it is tuned a 14,800 RPM with no load, or about 13,000 rpm in the cut. He tuned it to perfection and it really rips! Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 7th 2009 at 4:49 PM  [ Modified November 7th 2009 at 4:52 PM ] Post #50
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14006 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	Bought my new toy today Brand new MS270 with 18" bar. Chain is a .325 chisel. I dont know if that is a "safety chain". I was going to get the quick adjust but after looking at it and it gave the saw a plastic side case, no thanks. Price was $410+ tax. I got the case for 20 bucks, oil for 11, and 2 stroke oil for 5.. Adding that stuff and tax was $481. Lot of money but man what a saw. He had a MS260 pro that was used there. I would say maybe 10-15 hrs of use. Had 16" bar on it and he was going to sell it to me for $425. I read online about people complaining about its power and torque and vibration. I went outside his shop with it and cut a log. I was not impressed. It has slightly less umph than the 270 and seemed to vibrate more. It did however have a better piston and cylinder design that is supposed to last longer. I decided it was not for me. I just used the 270 for a bit and the only thing I have noticed that is odd is that when I hit the gas a few times it looked like it was throwing a little bit of oil Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit