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triple piping my 98 ultra
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October 23rd 2009 at 4:23 PM
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tshack420
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so i found some SLP triple pipes for my 98 ultra, $250 with the stingers,(good deal?) there off a 97 ultra, i called slp just to be sure they would swap to mine without an issue, the guy asked where i lived and when i told him new york he said yea "just make sure they come with the 'special low elevation needles' or it will be realll tough to get it tuned right, this being the reason they made the 'special needles' and the needles are now discontinued unless you order 300 of them"!! so my question is - do i really need these 'special low elevation needles' here in syracuse newyork? i really want to put triple SLP's on this thing but i doubt ill find a set with those needles......
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October 23rd 2009 at 6:21 PM
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stormrider62033
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man could find the numbers off a 97 SPX ultra ? should work ,because they already have the triple pipes ,,but one of the other members on here could tell you more
mid Il alway's waiting for snow,moving north(way north)2001 thundercat 99xcr 800 97SPX ULTRA 96 zrt 600&800,92 doo plusX 92 v max 4 750
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October 23rd 2009 at 7:02 PM
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ultrawillie
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I'll tell ya straight up the combo that will get you so close it's scarey.First your main jet is really going to depend on air and temp outside. I'm at 430s across the board and my plugs are text book brown(-20 to +10 clear crisp days).Needle jet is a Q2-247,jet needle 6cey-06,pilot jet is a 50,I dropped my pilot to a 30 lot snapper out of the hole,air screws turned out 1.5 turns.I have the clutching combo if you need it.
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October 26th 2009 at 8:48 PM
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tshack420
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hey, thanks for the info willie..
i have been doing alot of research on this for the last couple of days and have been getting some conflicting info..
as i mentioned above i called slp to see if the pipes from a 97 ultra would fit my 98 ultra, the guy told me "yes just make sure they come with the slp low elevation needles(no longer made) or it can be a pain to tune." that was all he said about the swap.
then while searching through the forum i came accross this post( http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/forum/...splay.aspx )where another member contacted them to find out the same thing and they told him "The 98 model had different port configuration, head design and ignition. The SLP pipes designed for the 96-97 models are not compatible with the 98 engine. They would be dependable but with little or no power improvement. Jim" the member also mentioned that "they have the same belly pan but not the same bulkhead"
can anyone please tell me which of these is true? will the pipes made for the 97 ultra work properly on my 98 ultra?
to save on confusion/misleading info - the 1998 ultra is not the spx aggresive chassis, they are both the wedge chassis. its not the sp model either it is called just plain 98 ultra and has extra 12 suspension front and rear.
the other misleading info i received, in my last post, was someone said my 98 is a 679cc, after looking at the polaris specs on www.polarisman.com(click specifications in top left corner) the 98 is actually a 697cc. the 97 is a 679cc. will the pipes still be ok with the slightly larger engine?
and finally for my last question - i have read alot of posts about the low rpm(09-680) and high rpm(09-6801) SLP pipes. But i havent seen any posts or pics with the third of set of pipes that SLP lists for the ultra, the glass pack style pipes(09-6802) which are also the high rpm(8700) pipes. and are the ones that a guy locally has for sale that i would like to put on my ultra..here is the link to the technical info for the 3 pipes that they sold for the ultra(and some for the other polaris sleds) (the 3 ultra ones are right in a row a little more then halfway through the list).. http://www.slp.cc/technical.cfm?subID=14 just would like to know if they will work for my 98 ultra and wondering why i havent seen them on other sleds on the forum? were they more expensive or no good or just werent sold long or something? ill post a pic showing them, and the normal slp's.
any help i can get to ease my aching mind would be very much appreciated...
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October 26th 2009 at 10:43 PM
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tshack420
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well after talking with another guy and looking at my registration, the 98 is indeed a 679cc as well. polarisman.com must have just mixed up the 7 and 9. glad thats cleared up...
so is there any reason the 97 pipes wouldnt work on my 98? and anyone know anything about those "glass pack style" SLP's?
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October 26th 2009 at 10:57 PM
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stormrider62033
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boy these can be hit and miss ,buy them if they dont fit right put them on ebay ,then tuning it and clutching it right is another problem
mid Il alway's waiting for snow,moving north(way north)2001 thundercat 99xcr 800 97SPX ULTRA 96 zrt 600&800,92 doo plusX 92 v max 4 750
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October 27th 2009 at 4:59 PM
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tshack420
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what do you mean when u say these can be hit and miss?
yea i have read all about the tuning and clutching thing, im willing to take on the challenge..whats the chances of finding a set of the slp needles, are they real hard to come by?
still looking for some info from you ultra pro's...
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October 27th 2009 at 5:11 PM
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HTNHARD
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Let's get that clutch information on this page. Thanks Ultrawillie!!
2001 Ducati 996 Biposto
Custom baffled stock pipes, Intergrated tail, Ohlins damper, Dunlop Qualifiers
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October 27th 2009 at 7:00 PM
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ultrawillie
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Quote originally posted by tshack420
what do you mean when u say these can be hit and miss?
yea i have read all about the tuning and clutching thing, im willing to take on the challenge..whats the chances of finding a set of the slp needles, are they real hard to come by?
still looking for some info from you ultra pro's...
First of all those 97 pipes off that agressive won't work on that wedge.If those SLP's look like the ones I have (look in my gallery)your in business.Second of all the set up I gave you is for elevation 0-1000ft above sea level.You should call SLP and ask them if there putting those needles in a freak-n sub.One thing I did'nt mention was I have the E-clips set second from the top.
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October 27th 2009 at 7:52 PM
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tshack420
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Quote originally posted by ultrawillie
Quote originally posted by tshack420
what do you mean when u say these can be hit and miss?
yea i have read all about the tuning and clutching thing, im willing to take on the challenge..whats the chances of finding a set of the slp needles, are they real hard to come by?
still looking for some info from you ultra pro's...
First of all those 97 pipes off that agressive won't work on that wedge.If those SLP's look like the ones I have (look in my gallery)your in business.Second of all the set up I gave you is for elevation 0-1000ft above sea level.You should call SLP and ask them if there putting those needles in a freak-n sub.One thing I did'nt mention was I have the E-clips set second from the top.
the pipes arent off the aggressive chassis they are off the 97 wedge(actually i didnt think SLP even made pipes for the spx aggresive chassis?), thanks for the setup tips ill deffinetally keep them in mind when i get some pipes.
did you have to cut your hood for the pipes to clear?
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October 27th 2009 at 9:20 PM
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ultrawillie
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Sorry I blew up! I should have looked at the belly pan and just not at the pipes.The pipes are what made me think it was an agressive,the way they bend way out and come back.To answer your ? no I didn't cut my hood.But I'm guessing your thinking on cutting that hood where the pipe bends in front of the pto cylinder.Got to get up early I'm out of here. 
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October 27th 2009 at 9:48 PM
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PM indyultra he is running slp pipes and needles plus he did some hood modifications to his 97 Ultra.
Cheers
If you double click on the this picture and look at the hood you can see where he cut it.
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October 27th 2009 at 9:59 PM
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tshack420
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Quote originally posted by ultrawillie
Sorry I blew up! I should have looked at the belly pan and just not at the pipes.The pipes are what made me think it was an agressive,the way they bend way out and come back.To answer your ? no I didn't cut my hood.But I'm guessing your thinking on cutting that hood where the pipe bends in front of the pto cylinder.Got to get up early I'm out of here.
how did you get yours to clear without cutting the hood? i read in a few posts that they wont clear without the hood mod. unless u put a dent in the pto pipe to make it clear the hood, is that what you did? i read of a few guys doing that, is it a bad idea? i think the guy who has a set for sale locally dented it to make the hood clear, should i not buy them because of that?
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October 27th 2009 at 10:26 PM
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Quote originally posted by XCR HYPER TRIPLE
PM indyultra he is running slp pipes and needles plus he did some hood modifications to his 97 Ultra.
Cheers
hey thanks for the info hyper, ill shoot him a pm tomorrow if he dont chime in before then, gotta be gettin my azz to bed.
does anyone have a picture of an ultra with the SLP glass pack style pipes on it? i noticed on SLPs tech info that the ultra ones had first stinger back farther, second stinger up little farther then 3rd stinger up farther again, (pic 1) i think the ones this guy has for sale all 3 stingers are even across with eachother(pic 2) which would mean they arent for an ultra like he says they are. im sure slp's website is right, so they are supposed to look like pic 1 and not pic 2 right?
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October 28th 2009 at 4:35 AM
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Just be careful running those pipes if you live in Michigan, anything higher than 88 decibels and you are illegal.
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October 28th 2009 at 7:57 AM
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ultrawillie
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Quote originally posted by tshack420
Quote originally posted by ultrawillie
Sorry I blew up! I should have looked at the belly pan and just not at the pipes.The pipes are what made me think it was an agressive,the way they bend way out and come back.To answer your ? no I didn't cut my hood.But I'm guessing your thinking on cutting that hood where the pipe bends in front of the pto cylinder.Got to get up early I'm out of here.
how did you get yours to clear without cutting the hood? i read in a few posts that they wont clear without the hood mod. unless u put a dent in the pto pipe to make it clear the hood, is that what you did? i read of a few guys doing that, is it a bad idea? i think the guy who has a set for sale locally dented it to make the hood clear, should i not buy them because of that?
There NOT going to clear with out pounding,cutting,and foil tape.I'll just say that those pipes are more aggresive friendly than wedge.I don't have SLP pipes I have PSIs and they are designed for the wedge,if you looked in my gallery you would see that my pipes don't have the bends and turns like yours.Thats what I meant when I said if they look like mine.I have a friend thats got those style stingers on his pipes and don't get me wrong I like loud pipes but those are ear crackling loud.MSH93XLT got a good point going to piss some body off with those.Looks like Indyultra is the guy you need to chat with,look like the same pipes minus the stingers.Good Luck I hope thisall works out for you.
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October 28th 2009 at 4:45 PM
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tshack420
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thanks for the input. i love them loud, so that sounds great!
does anyone know about the question i asked in post 14 regarding which stinger can was made for the ultra? i dont want to buy the pipes if there not the ultra ones and going by slp's picture im not sure that they are....
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October 28th 2009 at 6:19 PM
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ultrawillie
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Well if you really look at those two pictures you'll notice that pic #2 is a XLT(mono) and pic#1 is a trip-trip,soooooo to answer the ? picture #1.I like the way the stingers in picture #1 step,not alot of heat in one area like #2.IMO
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October 28th 2009 at 7:18 PM
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Quote originally posted by ultrawillie
Well if you really look at those two pictures you'll notice that pic #2 is a XLT(mono) and pic#1 is a trip-trip,soooooo to answer the ? picture #1.I like the way the stingers in picture #1 step,not alot of heat in one area like #2.IMO
i know pic #2 is a xlt, thats what i think his pipes might be if they look like that instead of pic #1 - he says his pipes came off an ultra but if their straight across like pic #2(xlt pipes) they must be for the xlt right? or were ultra ones straight across too?
im hoping someone has the glass pack style that they know were made for the ultra and can tell me if they look like pic 1 or pic 2.. i think they are supposed to look like pic 1 and if thats true then they werent made for an ultra  . i guess im just kind of hoping someone will tell me that the ultra ones looked the same as those xlt ones(pic2)... otherwise i need to find another set of SLP's....
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October 28th 2009 at 8:09 PM
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ultrawillie
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Quote originally posted by tshack420
Quote originally posted by ultrawillie
Well if you really look at those two pictures you'll notice that pic #2 is a XLT(mono) and pic#1 is a trip-trip,soooooo to answer the ? picture #1.I like the way the stingers in picture #1 step,not alot of heat in one area like #2.IMO
i know pic #2 is a xlt, thats what i think his pipes might be if they look like that instead of pic #1 - he says his pipes came off an ultra but if their straight across like pic #2(xlt pipes) they must be for the xlt right? or were ultra ones straight across too?
im hoping someone has the glass pack style that they know were made for the ultra and can tell me if they look like pic 1 or pic 2.. i think they are supposed to look like pic 1 and if thats true then they werent made for an ultra . i guess im just kind of hoping someone will tell me that the ultra ones looked the same as those xlt ones(pic2)... otherwise i need to find another set of SLP's....
Ok now you got me looking back and forth between the two pictures.I would have to say that the xlt pipes almost have to be straight across because of how far the mag side pipe and I guess all the pipes have to swing out to clear the water pump housing.I'm still really impressed with the way those pipes sit in that trip/trip.I like how far they sit away from the cylinder and the coolant hose.I guess with that said and seeing that you wouldn't have to clear a water pump housing I don't see why the straight across stingers wouldn't fit,may have to fab belly for exit out ,but oh well at this point what's the diff.
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October 28th 2009 at 8:36 PM
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the difference is, if they are meant for a 600 xlt, i dont want them on my 680 ultra.....
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October 28th 2009 at 9:47 PM
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ultrawillie
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Quote originally posted by tshack420
the difference is, if they are meant for a 600 xlt, i dont want them on my 680 ultra.....
Then in all reality it seems that you have just answered your self.Piss on those pipes and wait for a set that you know WILL work.Later
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October 30th 2009 at 3:23 PM
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Quote originally posted by ultrawillie
Quote originally posted by tshack420
the difference is, if they are meant for a 600 xlt, i dont want them on my 680 ultra.....
Then in all reality it seems that you have just answered your self.Piss on those pipes and wait for a set that you know WILL work.Later
yea im not going to buy them. especially since i found him selling them on ebay and he gives a completely false description trying to scam someone and this is the second time he listed them, the first time he won them by trying to up the bid with a different account. left good feedback for both his accounts and is now trying again. hes deffinetally a lying sack of sh!t so no thanx. i reported him to ebay.
anywayyy so again im on the lookout for a set of SLP pipes, preferably with the flanges, needles, etc.
may even settle for a set of psi modblasters.(do these require hood cutting too?). let me know what ya got.
you all have been a great help.
the only question im still wondering is when i called SLP to make sure the pipes made for the 97 ultra sp would work properly on the 98 ultra they told me yes. but then i seen a post where another member called SLP to make sure of the same thing, and they told him "The 98 model had different port configuration, head design and ignition. The SLP pipes designed for the 96-97 models are not compatible with the 98 engine. They would be dependable but with little or no power improvement."
the member also mentioned that "they have the same belly pan but not the same bulkhead" is this true?
can anyone please tell me which of these is true? will the pipes made for the 97 ultra work properly on my 98 ultra?
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October 30th 2009 at 9:08 PM
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ultrawillie
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Quote originally posted by tshack420
Quote originally posted by ultrawillie
Quote originally posted by tshack420
the difference is, if they are meant for a 600 xlt, i dont want them on my 680 ultra.....
Then in all reality it seems that you have just answered your self.Piss on those pipes and wait for a set that you know WILL work.Later
yea im not going to buy them. especially since i found him selling them on ebay and he gives a completely false description trying to scam someone and this is the second time he listed them, the first time he won them by trying to up the bid with a different account. left good feedback for both his accounts and is now trying again. hes deffinetally a lying sack of sh!t so no thanx. i reported him to ebay.
anywayyy so again im on the lookout for a set of SLP pipes, preferably with the flanges, needles, etc.
may even settle for a set of psi modblasters.(do these require hood cutting too?). let me know what ya got.
you all have been a great help.
the only question im still wondering is when i called SLP to make sure the pipes made for the 97 ultra sp would work properly on the 98 ultra they told me yes. but then i seen a post where another member called SLP to make sure of the same thing, and they told him "The 98 model had different port configuration, head design and ignition. The SLP pipes designed for the 96-97 models are not compatible with the 98 engine. They would be dependable but with little or no power improvement."
the member also mentioned that "they have the same belly pan but not the same bulkhead" is this true?
can anyone please tell me which of these is true? will the pipes made for the 97 ultra work properly on my 98 ultra?
Now your talking.I have PSI mod blasters great pipes,40hp extra and the best part easy to install because the pipes pretty much lay right into place and no cutting the hood.
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November 14th 2009 at 12:55 PM
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if you have the indy chassis the 98 pipes might be from the aggressive body, so there is a chance they might not fit the same?
for the needle you can contact aaen and get a richer needle or needle jet that might work as good. on aaen pipes you have to change the needle jet to get enough mid range fuel so it would be something similar i would imagine.
if you are piping a sled the low rpm are not a way to go, rpm makes power.
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