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Ultra owners
- Need a little help
started by the_hog
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November 1st 2009 at 4:26 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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I need a little help chasing down a few wires in an Ultra wire harness. I have an SPX harness so hopefully all the Ultras are the same. First one, black and brown wire, I believe these go to the key switch. This one is black/white, coming out of the CDI, in my wiring diagram it says it goes to the gauges to a temp gauge? Is this true? The three white wires go from the CDI to the coils, where does the black go, chassis ground? The white plug is where the stator plugs into the wire harness, I cant for the life of me figure out what that black wire is coming out of the harness and where it goes.
1200 WC coming soon
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November 1st 2009 at 4:33 PM
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IndyRXL
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140 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: December 21st 2007
Location: Basom, NY, USA
Current Sled: 01xcsp500/ 650
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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1st pick goes to key
2nd goes to wire in bottom pic , its your shut off wire
3rd ground
4th to 2nd pic
01 xcsp500
swapping in a 650 triple
93xlt
xtra12 swap
giveing up its parts so the xcsp can live
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November 1st 2009 at 4:51 PM
[ Modified November 1st 2009 at 4:51 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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Check out this diagram, it has the black/white wire coming out of the CDI going to the temp gauge. Thats what has me confused.
1200 WC coming soon
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November 1st 2009 at 5:10 PM
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IndyRXL
Junior Member
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140 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 21st 2007
Location: Basom, NY, USA
Current Sled: 01xcsp500/ 650
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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Well, now im confused. Thats allways been the kill wire on any that ive seen.
01 xcsp500
swapping in a 650 triple
93xlt
xtra12 swap
giveing up its parts so the xcsp can live
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November 1st 2009 at 5:37 PM
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mrholmquist
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500 Posts
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Member Since: December 15th 2003
Location: cobourg, on, Canada
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never owned an ultra but just going by the schematic i would say the brn and black go to the temp sensor. My best guess is there is an overheat protection built into the CDI.
the wht/blk goes from the CDI to the temp guage
three white wires to the coils and the black is the kill wire and it is
hooked to the throttle assurance switches, the kill switch, and the key switch
the other plug should be to the stator lighting coil and acessories
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November 1st 2009 at 6:13 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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I think I got all but the last one figured out.
First one definitely goes to the key switch.
Second is definitely from the CDI to the temp gauge/light in dash
Third goes to each coil and then engine ground.
Fourth one I am still confused about.
1200 WC coming soon
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November 1st 2009 at 6:29 PM
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Clouse2411
Advanced Member
Clouse2411 has the drop and rolled templates on. Should have the track, rear skid and motor in tommarow (: Winter is comming.
Updated Thursday at 9:57 PM
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Member Since: July 18th 2006
Location: Tiffin, OH, USA
Current Sled: 93 Polaris XLT 650 RMK
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Does the fourth one head up the hood? Or to the chaincase side?
1997 Ford F-350 XLT
Reg Cab, Long Bed, 7.3L Powerstroke, 2.2k resistor, 3in Downpipe, 5in Single Stack, 2 12in Subs, 1000 Watt Sony Amp, Sony Head Unit,And Custom Air Intake
1993 Polaris XLT 650 RMK
Indy 650 Motor, PSI Modblaster Pipes, Clutched And Geared, Kimpex Plastic Ski's, Polished Tunnel and Bumpers, Black-out Headlight Cover, Gravity-Worx Racing Throttle Cable, Low Black Windshield, Gen II Jackshaft And Chaincase, ODI 8in Grips, RSI handlebar hooks, 136x1.25 Polaris Take-off, Homemade Tunnel Extension, Edge Rear Skid, Nosecone Mounted Fog Lights, Sno-Stuff Light Weight Hood, 4 Display Digatron, Billet Throttle Block, Chrome PowerMadd Handguards, Light-Weight Brake Rotor, Black PowderCoated Skid and Heads, Custom Console, Skidplate, And Bumper, Cometic Gasket Kit, WMS Support Block, Edge Flap, Edge Coolant Bottle, SLP High-Flow Airbox, Moved Running Board Coolers, Carbon Fiber Wrap, Chrome Trim, TracksUSA Rail Extensions, Xtra 10 Shocks, Shorty Seat, Edge Tank, Chromoly Trailing Arms And Radius Rods, Tison Dropped And Rolled Chaincase, And Rear Skid Moved Back 2.5in.
To Come:
Pro-X Brake
XC Spindles
Straight Bars
6061 Auminum Radius Rods
6.25-8in Rox Adjustable Riser
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November 1st 2009 at 6:40 PM
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IndyRXL
Junior Member
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140 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 21st 2007
Location: Basom, NY, USA
Current Sled: 01xcsp500/ 650
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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That forth wire on my 01 xcsp that im swapping in a 650 trip in and my 93 xlt plugs into the black and white wire from the cdi. Your cdi is diffrent than the older one that im useing, i dont have a tps and my temp sender doesnt go to the cdi.
01 xcsp500
swapping in a 650 triple
93xlt
xtra12 swap
giveing up its parts so the xcsp can live
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November 2nd 2009 at 3:41 PM
[ Modified November 2nd 2009 at 4:10 PM
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sinjin588
Cat Killer
sinjin588 builds quick machines.
Updated Tuesday at 12:04 AM
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Member Since: October 17th 2006
Location: Ohio, USA
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OK I am 100% sure that in your third pic, the white wires go one to each coil and that one of the grounds goes to a coil and the other jumps over to one of the screws holding the coolant manifold. The black/white wire in the second pic goes to a corresponding male connection on the chassis harness, I belive it changes to solid black on the chassis side. I am about 99.99% sure that the black/white wire in your last pic conects directly to the coolant temp sensor in the coolant manifold. The black and white wire in your last pic does indeed go to the coolant temp light. I won't see my sled until next weekend to verify the last pic. Here's the kicker, your wiring diagram is for '99 XCR 700/800s and I THINK they used thermostats in the cooling system and may not have had the coolant temp sensors. Ultras did not have a thermostat and used a coolant temp sensor in the manifold, at least in '96 anyway. My point is, verify the chassis side and engine side of your harnesses if they are from different model and year sleds.
I have attached a schematic for '96 SP, SKS, and RMK.
If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.
If there is any choice, overpower the problem rather than trying to finesse it. In poker, one Smith and Wesson beats four aces. In engineering, one positive fix beats four probables.
-Raymond P. Lambeck
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November 2nd 2009 at 4:22 PM
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sinjin588
Cat Killer
sinjin588 builds quick machines.
Updated Tuesday at 12:04 AM
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249 Posts
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Member Since: October 17th 2006
Location: Ohio, USA
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Sorry, here's the attachment.
If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.
If there is any choice, overpower the problem rather than trying to finesse it. In poker, one Smith and Wesson beats four aces. In engineering, one positive fix beats four probables.
-Raymond P. Lambeck
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November 2nd 2009 at 5:49 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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Thanks sinjin, yeah I knew the wiring diagram I had was for a XCR, but it was all I could get at the time. Thanks for posting the Ultra diagram, I think I got it all figured out after looking at it. My ignition is an Ultra SPX ignition I believe, I do know the CDI is from a SPX and the harness is an Ultra SPX. This is for my WC motor so its not in a stock chassis so that makes it a little harder.
1200 WC coming soon
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November 2nd 2009 at 5:59 PM
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sinjin588
Cat Killer
sinjin588 builds quick machines.
Updated Tuesday at 12:04 AM
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249 Posts
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Member Since: October 17th 2006
Location: Ohio, USA
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Hey no problem, glad to help. What I told you should be right on, I've had that motor out quite a few times. Come to think of it, the motor is out of mine right now lol. Good Luck.
If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.
If there is any choice, overpower the problem rather than trying to finesse it. In poker, one Smith and Wesson beats four aces. In engineering, one positive fix beats four probables.
-Raymond P. Lambeck
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November 9th 2009 at 3:30 PM
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indyultra
Don't ask me any questions, because I just might tell you the truth.
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442 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 3rd 2003
Location: winnipeg, manitoba, Canada
2008-2009 Miles: 900
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hey hog did you get it figured out?
i also have my ultra all a part and can check into it tonight for you.
When you're arguing with a fool, make sure he isn't doing the same thing.
Wisdom eventually comes to all of us. Someday it might even be your turn.
97 ULTRA SP,07 IQ 600,77 EVEREST
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November 9th 2009 at 5:34 PM
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DoubleClutch
New Member
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89 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: October 11th 2009
Location: Alantic, Pa, USA
Current Sled: 97 Polaris Ultra 700
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Not to get off the subject but if any of you owns a 98 Ultra just like the one in my avatar I am need to find out what size clutch belt they take. I am looking at some new ones on E-Bay and need the size. Thanks
When I Die I Will Be Going Threw The Pearly Gate's Backwords And On Fire And Yelling Where's The Women!!!
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November 9th 2009 at 8:23 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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indyultra, yep I think I got it figured out. Hopefully I can get the motor in the chassis this weekend and give everything all hooked up and see if I have spark.
1200 WC coming soon
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November 9th 2009 at 10:39 PM
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indyultra
Don't ask me any questions, because I just might tell you the truth.
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442 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 3rd 2003
Location: winnipeg, manitoba, Canada
2008-2009 Miles: 900
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sounds good hog, let us know how it goes!
on a side note... do you have any light clutch weights kicking around... anything under 50 grams?
When you're arguing with a fool, make sure he isn't doing the same thing.
Wisdom eventually comes to all of us. Someday it might even be your turn.
97 ULTRA SP,07 IQ 600,77 EVEREST
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November 10th 2009 at 7:02 PM
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the_hog
Builder/Owner of a real MOD sled!
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1844 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 12th 2003
Location: Eastern MT/Western ND, USA
Current Sled: CMX/PSI Mod, 01 SRX
2008-2009 Miles: 14.5
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I do have some light stuff but I still use them for a couple 650's I have. I will have to check to see if I have two sets of anything. I will get back to you.
1200 WC coming soon
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