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snowmobile street machine project
- two front wheels and one fat rear wheel
started by exit9teen88
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November 6th 2009 at 8:05 PM
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exit9teen88
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7 Posts
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Member Since: November 6th 2009
Location: west park, new York
Current Sled: yamaha enticer 340 deluxe
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I'd like to say hi to every1 since I'm new here. ok so here's my plan, I was given a yamaha enticer 340 deluxe 1015 miles on it. it's somewere between 1978 to 1981 I think. since I hate the cold weather I'm converting it to a street machine. meaning that I removing the whole track and suspension setup, I'm going to have the square driveshaft milled down to a round one so I can install a sprocket onto it and run a chain back to a sprocket conected to a rim.(go-kart rim) which will be sucured by two pillow block bearings with another keyed driveshaft. and maybe a disc brake setup if the rear wheel isn't to wide. the front wheels are not yet planned. looking for ideas. that's basicly it. sorts like a T-REX. wat do you think.sounds fun rite. I will keep you guys updated on my progress. won't start till the pistons come in.does any1 know anything about enticer 340's. they seem pretty rare.
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November 6th 2009 at 8:53 PM
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DoubleClutch
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Current Sled: 97 Polaris Ultra 700
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When I Die I Will Be Going Threw The Pearly Gate's Backwords And On Fire And Yelling Where's The Women!!!
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November 6th 2009 at 8:59 PM
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The_Mad_Warrior
Gate Attendant
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Updated Wednesday at 9:59 PM
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It will over heat and melt down. Wouldnt bother wasting your money unless you get a liquid cooled engine.
EDIT: Awsome video I take back what I said about being a waste of money. But I still think it would over heat and melt down wouldnt it?
If you cant fix it with duct tape, tylnol, or band aids your screwed.
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November 6th 2009 at 9:07 PM
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weakeboarderboy
92Indy650
weakeboarderboy Everyone keep your fingers crossed for snow. Trails poentially open in 11 days!
Updated Thursday at 10:16 PM
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2008-2009 Miles: 400
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You can buy kits i think but they are expensive, and I don't think a fan cooled machine would go over well
92 Indy 650- Powermadd hand gaurds, 3" Powermadd bar riser, Electropods, 9.5 in. windshield, EPI clutch kit, Red recoil handle.
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November 6th 2009 at 9:44 PM
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exit9teen88
Starting Member
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7 Posts
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Member Since: November 6th 2009
Location: west park, new York
Current Sled: yamaha enticer 340 deluxe
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I don't think I will have a problem with over heating. think about small engines (lawn mower, tractor) only cooled by the flywheel.
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November 6th 2009 at 9:47 PM
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triplefever
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104 Posts
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Location: saginaw, michigan
Current Sled: 1999 zr600 snopro
2008-2009 Miles: 3049
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i dont think that the 340 is a smart powerplant anyways too small...i have a go cart with a 400 rotax fan cooledand it hasnt melted down and i ride it hard
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November 6th 2009 at 10:02 PM
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zecow224
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Location: appleton, wisconsin, USA
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it should be fine. look at fourwheelers they can only be fans and be fine. i rode my quad for 5 hours straight hard and she works just fine.
Kirby is my idol
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November 6th 2009 at 11:34 PM
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XLT_DEMON
where is the DAMN snow already!!!
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58 Posts
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Member Since: November 3rd 2009
Location: Dassel, Minnesota, USA
Current Sled: 1995 Polaris XLT SKS 600
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i think there are some differences in fan sizes and such cuz i got a friend who built a go kart and put an indy 440 fan cooled in it it lasted a few weeks but eventually had a meltdown
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November 7th 2009 at 1:07 AM
[ Modified November 7th 2009 at 1:09 AM
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shady800x
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shady800x -20 degree weather...land is getting ready for snow!
Updated This morning at 7:08 AM
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Location: Kipnuk, alaska, USA
Current Sled: '03 Edge-X 800
2008-2009 Miles: not sure
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what if u made a larger fan for it. to boost airflow? say like another fan to further cooling?
2003 Edge-X 800
Vforce 3 reeds, Powermadd Boost bottle, updated c.d.i. slp powder pro's, 1.25 predator track, fox racing clicker rear, rydefx center and skis, 1 in handle bar riser, specialty x can. 11.5 in cobra yellow tint windshield, and a sportech yellow tint lightshield.
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November 7th 2009 at 1:21 AM
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mackinsaw
Born to Fertilize..
mackinsaw Thinks it's mighty convient for the neighbor to wait untill there's snow on the ground and to ask me if I would do him a massive favour and cut his firewood for the winter for money as he is incapable. Dang I got some work cut out for the next few days.
Updated Last Sunday at 9:30 PM
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Location: Avola, B.C., Canada
Current Sled: garbage bag
2008-2009 Miles: 780
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I like your creativity, but don't waste the time. If you don't like the cold, just sell that sled and buy a cheap quad and you'll save yourself a huge headache..
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November 7th 2009 at 2:24 AM
[ Modified November 7th 2009 at 2:25 AM
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powersledder
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This post is considered "no good" by the community with a rating of -8. View it anyways?
Wow you guys are dumb.
If you use a liquid cooled engine, then there's this little invention, you might have heard of it before? Its called a radiator! Yes you can fit a small air/water radiator into a snowmobile engine cooling system and convert it for use during warmer weather provided you jet it accordingly. Wow, just imagine, with a little thinking you can actually make an idea work. That's an amazing concept isn't it.
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November 7th 2009 at 2:33 AM
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shady800x
Junior Member
shady800x -20 degree weather...land is getting ready for snow!
Updated This morning at 7:08 AM
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197 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: August 25th 2005
Location: Kipnuk, alaska, USA
Current Sled: '03 Edge-X 800
2008-2009 Miles: not sure
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i kno that already powersledder, just something different, to make a fan cooled engine last longer in warmer weather. the concept of the idea. sure it can be done with a liquid cooled motor. but a fan? based on what others said in this post, fanners won't last more than a few weeks.
2003 Edge-X 800
Vforce 3 reeds, Powermadd Boost bottle, updated c.d.i. slp powder pro's, 1.25 predator track, fox racing clicker rear, rydefx center and skis, 1 in handle bar riser, specialty x can. 11.5 in cobra yellow tint windshield, and a sportech yellow tint lightshield.
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November 7th 2009 at 3:16 AM
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mackinsaw
Born to Fertilize..
mackinsaw Thinks it's mighty convient for the neighbor to wait untill there's snow on the ground and to ask me if I would do him a massive favour and cut his firewood for the winter for money as he is incapable. Dang I got some work cut out for the next few days.
Updated Last Sunday at 9:30 PM
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Member Since: December 1st 2004
Location: Avola, B.C., Canada
Current Sled: garbage bag
2008-2009 Miles: 780
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I just don't know what your trying to accomplish, why not just buy a older quad? Why spend the time and money making something less capable than a old quad when you can get one cheaper??
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November 7th 2009 at 8:14 AM
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exit9teen88
Starting Member
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7 Posts
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Member Since: November 6th 2009
Location: west park, new York
Current Sled: yamaha enticer 340 deluxe
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I'm not trying to accomplish much. just a personal project. I would like to use a 1000cc efi but the 340 was FREE so I'm using that. I have an older quad 88 Suzuki lt230e quadrunner and a go kart yerf dogg 2 seater roll cage..ect it's to small for me I'm selling both. the idea sounds real fun and it rare to see. I figure about $150-$200 if that to build this machine. I'll install a head temp gauge or an egt to make sure it doesn't overheat. that fan idea sounds good. g2g be back later
(powersledder) how the hell am I suppose to put a radiator on a fan cooled sled. WOW YOUR DUMB
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November 7th 2009 at 8:35 AM
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87srvsnow
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Member Since: October 19th 2008
Location: massachusetts, USA
Current Sled: 1987 yamaha srv
2008-2009 Miles: 26
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you can make a fan cooled engine work, there are many threads about snowmobile engines on go karts, on DIYgokarts.com
the problem with a fan cooled is that the engine will just be blowing hot air form outside, and even hotter air from the engine, which will not do much in the cooling department. you could make a shroud that comes out of the side or something, to a cooler place in the hood. basically the same principal of an airbox. to get clean, cooler air, that isn't heated form the engine.
Bambi would have been a better and shorter movie if he was shot in the beginning with his mother
if a ride on lawn mower takes bumps better than your sled, its time to upgrade
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November 7th 2009 at 8:52 AM
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zecow224
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Quote originally posted by mackinsaw
I just don't know what your trying to accomplish, why not just buy a older quad? Why spend the time and money making something less capable than a old quad when you can get one cheaper??
because quads are not street legal. with a little bit of work he can make this street legal.
Kirby is my idol
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November 7th 2009 at 9:45 AM
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The main reason you kids have blown up those fan cooled engines is because you used an improper exhaust and melted a piston.
Using the correct exhaust pipe and jetting for the warmer temps will make the engine last a long time.
His idea is good, all I would add is that he also makes some additional venting/ducting in the hood to improve air flow to keep things cool under there.
'93 wildcat 700efi w/Comet Pro-4 clutch & 01 ZR skid
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November 7th 2009 at 11:51 AM
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XLT_DEMON
where is the DAMN snow already!!!
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58 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 3rd 2009
Location: Dassel, Minnesota, USA
Current Sled: 1995 Polaris XLT SKS 600
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First off if powerlsedder read the post before he started bashing us he would have seen that exit9teen is workin with a fan cooled motor not a liquid and what oldcatrider said is correct but you can still have a meltdown the friend i noted earlyer who did this had the original sled exhaust modded into the chassis of the go kart and he still had a meltdown but the addition of venting and an exterior air flow box sonds like your onto something
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November 7th 2009 at 1:14 PM
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exit9teen88
Starting Member
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7 Posts
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Member Since: November 6th 2009
Location: west park, new York
Current Sled: yamaha enticer 340 deluxe
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heat wraping the exhaust, improving air flow through the hood, and doing sum kind of cold air intake should cut down on the heat quite abit. just for precaution.
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November 7th 2009 at 1:24 PM
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The_Mad_Warrior
Gate Attendant
The_Mad_Warrior is a laid off bum.
Updated Wednesday at 9:59 PM
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Member Since: February 2nd 2006
Location: Madawaska, Ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 1997 MXZ 670
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Quote originally posted by powersledder
Wow you guys are dumb.
If you use a liquid cooled engine, then there's this little invention, you might have heard of it before? Its called a radiator! Yes you can fit a small air/water radiator into a snowmobile engine cooling system and convert it for use during warmer weather provided you jet it accordingly. Wow, just imagine, with a little thinking you can actually make an idea work. That's an amazing concept isn't it.
Not only were you a dick but you didnt make any sense to what anyone said? I said a liquid cooled would be a better idea. And I think that was the only extent to it. Your post was a complete fail. FAIL FAIL FAIL!!! Wow you ticked me off.
If you cant fix it with duct tape, tylnol, or band aids your screwed.
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November 7th 2009 at 1:44 PM
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Big-Guy_Small-Sled
The Starter of Fire
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Member Since: January 24th 2009
Location: Honeoye, New York, USA
Current Sled: 1997 Indy Ultra SPX
2008-2009 Miles: 700
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I personally like the idea, sounds like more of a personal goal and something that not everyone has done. Like quads and gokarts. Why not give it a shot... if the motor fails then upgrade revamp and call it a day. If you have the knowledge and tools anything is possible. For that matter you could go as far as fabbing a waverunner motor and figuring that out. But if your working with free parts then to the shop you go. Worse case scenario you blow a freebie motor. *On a side note* be safe when welding to not burn it down literally as was done in a post read on here the other day.
Good luck to you. (keep us posted)
"Brendan"
Current Sled/s:
1999 Polaris Indy XLT Special/We name it fire hound!
1997 Polaris Indy Ultra Spx
1991 Polaris Indy 400
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November 7th 2009 at 1:50 PM
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ridingthe600edge
sleds are all polished up and waiting for snow!!!
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Quote originally posted by powersledder
Wow you guys are dumb.
If you use a liquid cooled engine, then there's this little invention, you might have heard of it before? Its called a radiator! Yes you can fit a small air/water radiator into a snowmobile engine cooling system and convert it for use during warmer weather provided you jet it accordingly. Wow, just imagine, with a little thinking you can actually make an idea work. That's an amazing concept isn't it.
WOW!! dickhead isn't the word...its more like genius!! you should run for president!!
2001 600 edge X almond spring on primary with 60gm wieghts, s&s rumble pack, gutted air box 6" woodys doolys carbides,196 woodys 1 1/4" studs
2009 600 IQ shift all stock still a virgin!! not for much longer
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November 7th 2009 at 2:29 PM
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YamahaRider34
Let snowmobiling begin!!!
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Member Since: July 24th 2009
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 87 Yamaha Enticer 340
2008-2009 Miles: 570
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Hey exit9teen88... I actually have an enticer. They are nice little sleds.
Its a good project for you. They are very trustworthy keep in mind
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November 7th 2009 at 3:30 PM
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skidoo4you
Wants to have more money to buy sled
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Current Sled: 98 ski-doo Formula S 380
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How would you plan to make the rear suspension, me and my bro thought of this but couldnt figuer it out
Eat my snow from my 380 :P
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November 7th 2009 at 5:57 PM
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exit9teen88
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7 Posts
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Member Since: November 6th 2009
Location: west park, new York
Current Sled: yamaha enticer 340 deluxe
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I want to thank the ones who gave there support. as for the suspension i'm not doing any just mounting the pillow blocks to the side running boards with the axle through them. I could use a swing arm from a motorcycle. that's alot more work and requires fabricating a frame inside the tunnel for reinforcement and mounting the shock. I will borrow a digital camera and post progress so far. I have the complete track and suspension off.
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