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Ethynol Additive In Gas
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January 16th 2004 at 9:30 AM
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XCtorUPurZR
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Theres alot of noise around here (upstate ny) about petrolium companies changing to ethynol additive in gas. Rumor has it you need to jet two sizes richer for your ignition to compensate. Has anyone heard this, if so is it bull or should people be rejetting. Elevation around here is 100' to 850' above sea. I do most of my mileage in Vermont though and we can see 3800' above there. I guess im somewhat nervous if this is true. I hope it's bull!!
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January 16th 2004 at 10:08 AM
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voodoo
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Some companies put a note right at the pumps there is ethanol. I do not buy them
It burns cleaner and hotter but I am not sure how it reacts to 2 stroke oils.
I too have heard it is to be avoided and my clymer manual (just got it out) for my cat tells me fuels with ethanol are to be avoided or engine damage will result. (that can't be good)
I’m gonna’ pollute my little piece of the planet so that future generations can’t use it.
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January 16th 2004 at 10:50 AM
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Jokester886
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the ethalnol will start being more common in gas stations because I know General Motors released a new type of motor called the E85, it is 85% ethenol and runs a lot cleaner, like you said. There will always be the regular unleaded around though, just think of all the older cars still around!
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January 16th 2004 at 3:41 PM
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VTSheener
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same goes for fuel additives such as dry-gas, there are two kinds around here, one with Ethanol and the other with IPA (Isopropal Alcohol) I am sure that if you use it all the time to prevent gas lines from freezing up (due to pump-gas with water in it) then you should be running a lower oil/gas mix and probably jetting for that as well....it makes me nervous, but my sled already runs 'oily' anyway....
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January 17th 2004 at 12:33 PM
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TXC
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Here in Minnesota all gas has a ethanol blend of 10%. You can find a few places that have without, but not many. I run the 10% because in my city thats all thats available and I have done nothing in jetting area and have had no problems either. Its cleaner burning and it replaces the lead to gain the octane ratings. I would have to say lots of BULL to the rumors.
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January 17th 2004 at 1:12 PM
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Duke 99 700XCR
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I have used ethanol before in sleds with no changes to anything and had no problems.I only have used it when that was all I could get,there was no diefferance in my sled at all but I used a 94 octane ethanol and I ussually use 91 without the ethanol.
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January 17th 2004 at 1:17 PM
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ezriden96
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[quote]Originally posted by TXC
Here in Minnesota all gas has a ethanol blend of 10%. You can find a few places that have without, but not many. I run the 10% because in my city thats all thats available and I have done nothing in jetting area and have had no problems either. Its cleaner burning and it replaces the lead to gain the octane ratings. I would have to say lots of BULL to the rumors.
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Im in Iowa and every pump I pull up to has got ethanol blended gas. Still have the regular on a pump to. I've been runin ethanol and have had no problems, nor have I had to change any jetting.
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January 19th 2004 at 10:57 AM
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Jokester886
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yes every gas has 10%... but they are trying to get it to 85%
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January 19th 2004 at 2:19 PM
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bern
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I have used ethanol for years in everything I own. It has a higher octane rating than the old regular gas.I have never had any problems ever.
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January 19th 2004 at 2:34 PM
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The only changes necessary as far as I know are for batteryless EFI's (specifically F-Cats). 5% Ethynol is in probably 99% of the gas sold in IL, a sticker gives consumer notice on every pump. I've run it all my life in all my sleds (carb.) and never had to deal w/any changes whatsoever! UP, MI is 100% gasoline, as well as all the gas stations I fill up at in WI, and no changes in performance/riding were ever experienced by me. I know two owners of '04 F7 EFI's and both need to unplug some wire (which is part of some sort of sensor--I know I'm being vague, but it's all I know) when running Ethynol added gas in the sled. When it's 100% gasoline the wire should be plugged in. It has to do with ignition, I'm sure. But bottom line is that I've NEVER HAD any problems with running either/or, in the same tank and at the same time in any of MY carb. sleds for the last ~8 yrs.
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