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November 4th 2009 at 5:56 AM
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hayesxcr440
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Also has anyone put flat side carbs on there sleds and how big can i go on a 98 xcr 440 or should i just stay with at 34mm carb. And is it worth it.
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November 4th 2009 at 9:43 AM
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THE_Norwegian
:)
THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D.
Updated Friday at 5:32 PM
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446 Posts 
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Member Since: January 29th 2008
Location: Norway
Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
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i have vm38's on mine. the 92 came with them stock, later they changed to 34 because of changes in snox rules or something like that... :)
* XCR 440 *
"I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!"
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November 4th 2009 at 10:25 AM
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hayesxcr440
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Location: Maine, USA
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38 are pretty big is there a big difference in power and gas consumption, does it affect the engine in a negative way.
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November 4th 2009 at 10:40 AM
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skiroulertx447
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88 Posts 
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Member Since: March 16th 2008
Location: MN
Current Sled: 93 xcr 440
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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93's also came stock with vm38s
93 XCR 440
73 Skiroule RT440
72 Skiroule RTX447
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November 4th 2009 at 3:02 PM
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THE_Norwegian
:)
THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D.
Updated Friday at 5:32 PM
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446 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 29th 2008
Location: Norway
Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
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Quote originally posted by hayesxcr440
38 are pretty big is there a big difference in power and gas consumption, does it affect the engine in a negative way.
havent tryed a indy 44o with 34's, so dont have anything to compare it with.
but yes it wil probably use moore gas with 38's. i dont know what my MPG....
* XCR 440 *
"I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!"
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November 4th 2009 at 4:38 PM
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THE_Norwegian
:)
THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D.
Updated Friday at 5:32 PM
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446 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 29th 2008
Location: Norway
Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
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are theese belts any good ?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/new-oem-p...3357125874
or am i bettor of with aftermarket belts?
* XCR 440 *
"I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!"
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November 4th 2009 at 5:21 PM
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hayesxcr440
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Member Since: October 30th 2009
Location: Maine, USA
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i dont know i run carlisle ultimax pro or there max belt on my 98, because they are cheap and run as long a the polaris belts. But for $10 you cant try it and then if you dont like it then it would be a good spare.
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November 4th 2009 at 5:33 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 5 hours ago
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12582 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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the 045 is a good tight tolerance belt. That was all i used to run.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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November 5th 2009 at 5:47 AM
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tnmemr
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506 Posts 
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Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: WI, USA
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Running 38s will hurt the bottom (holeshot) as well as mpg. Not worth the extra few (2-4) HP gained on top end IMO. My 98 runs 19 - 22 mpg on groomed trails riding hard. I haven't tried a "normal" speed trail ride to see if it is better at lower speeds. It should be. Dial in the clutching, jetting, gearing, and loosen the track to at least 3/4" of free hang WITHOUT any weight hanging on it.
hayesxcr440,
Running filters actually will decrease HP do to taking in hot under hood air instead of the preferred outside air.
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November 5th 2009 at 8:18 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 5 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Quote originally posted by tnmemr
Running 38s will hurt the bottom (holeshot) as well as mpg. Not worth the extra few (2-4) HP gained on top end IMO. My 98 runs 19 - 22 mpg on groomed trails riding hard. I haven't tried a "normal" speed trail ride to see if it is better at lower speeds. It should be. Dial in the clutching, jetting, gearing, and loosen the track to at least 3/4" of free hang WITHOUT any weight hanging on it.
hayesxcr440,
Running filters actually will decrease HP do to taking in hot under hood air instead of the preferred outside air.
easily get 20 mpg with stock clutching. I havn't check it with the t-flow and hsp kit.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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November 5th 2009 at 12:16 PM
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hayesxcr440
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Member Since: October 30th 2009
Location: Maine, USA
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yeah i get like 19mpg with my set up. I so thats why i have problems with jetting. the hotter the engine gets the more out of tune the jetting is.
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November 5th 2009 at 3:08 PM
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THE_Norwegian
:)
THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D.
Updated Friday at 5:32 PM
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446 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 29th 2008
Location: Norway
Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
the 045 is a good tight tolerance belt. That was all i used to run.
i bought all 4  for what i paid i get 1,5 belts here  and if i dont like them i can sell them and make some money 
anyone here repaired cracks in the hood ? mine got some bad ones after i forgot the hood straps off while the sled was on the trailer backwards. the hood flew open at 60mph 
i bought a epoxy/fiberglass kit, heard good things about them.
* XCR 440 *
"I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!"
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November 5th 2009 at 3:25 PM
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hayesxcr440
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Location: Maine, USA
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Yeah thats i did on my dads sled and is worked ok for a while then cracked again but i think that was because it was near that hood strap and on a corner.
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November 5th 2009 at 6:09 PM
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hayesxcr440
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Location: Maine, USA
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What should i do about the filters i dont want to put the old air box back on, are there and other options that any one knows about? Im pretty good with my hands so i could fab up something just not sure was what to make.
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November 5th 2009 at 7:07 PM
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tnmemr
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Quote originally posted by hayesxcr440
What should i do about the filters i dont want to put the old air box back on, are there and other options that any one knows about? Im pretty good with my hands so i could fab up something just not sure was what to make.
There is nothing to be gained by using anything other than the stock airbox. What don't you like about the airbox?
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November 5th 2009 at 7:55 PM
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hayesxcr440
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it makes re jetting longer, and i thought that the filters would give me more hp. plus they were free.
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November 8th 2009 at 7:31 AM
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tnmemr
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Quote originally posted by hayesxcr440 it makes re jetting longer, and i thought that the filters would give me more hp. plus they were free. I found that by splitting the 2 halves of the airbox and installing it that way worked much better. I filed the edges that hold it together so that it wasn't difficult to take apart but would still stay together. Using a Tempa Flow or an ATACC is priceless IMO. Since installing the Tempa Flow it runs spot on at all times. You can find used Tempa Flows cheap if not in a hurry or bite the bullet. Most will agree that the cost of a T-Flow or ATACC will be outweighed by the performance gained and better fuel efficiency.
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November 8th 2009 at 1:33 PM
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THE_Norwegian
:)
THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D.
Updated Friday at 5:32 PM
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446 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 29th 2008
Location: Norway
Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
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im replacing all the bearings in the suspension. whats best, metal or rubber sealed bearings ? :)
* XCR 440 *
"I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!"
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November 8th 2009 at 2:09 PM
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atvman29
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133 Posts
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Member Since: August 17th 2009
Location: Minnesota, USA
Current Sled: 97 Polaris 440 XC
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Quote originally posted by THE_Norwegian
Quote originally posted by xcr440
the 045 is a good tight tolerance belt. That was all i used to run.
i bought all 4 for what i paid i get 1,5 belts here and if i dont like them i can sell them and make some money
anyone here repaired cracks in the hood ? mine got some bad ones after i forgot the hood straps off while the sled was on the trailer backwards. the hood flew open at 60mph
i bought a epoxy/fiberglass kit, heard good things about them.
MY hood was cracked all the way down the furthest rear left corner, and being as cheap as I am, I got some clear duct tape, and gorilla glue epoxy, and so far so good. Seems pretty darn tight to be honest! I taped up the top side and spray painted over it to hold it down, then put a whole thing of the epoxy in the crack on the inside. Its not super pretty, but it looks a lot better than it did!
2006 Arctic Cat DVX 400
-Holeshot HD Tires
-Pro-Armor Bullhorn Bumper
-Powermadd Trailstar Handguards
-Arctic Cat Nerf Bars
-Full Skid Plates
-Rath Racing Grab Bar
1997 Polaris XC 440
-Plastic Skis
-Studded Track
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November 9th 2009 at 6:46 PM
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xc600rmk
Friend of Fast
xc600rmk need info on the exciter!!
Updated Last Sunday at 12:00 PM
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Member Since: March 27th 2007
Location: Albion, NY, USA
Current Sled: 04 Pro-X 600,98XC600rmk
2008-2009 Miles: 1,700ish
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Just a heads up guys, prob around february Im gonna be in the market for another XCR, Id like 98 again but it would have to be in excellent shape, and i dont mind paying a lil more than its worth.
*04 Pro-X 600-A few mods,and go-fast parts.......136" x 1.25" this winter
*98 XC600 and some RMK add ons-The sons ride this winter
*98 XCR440 and some SKS add ons------SOLD :-(
*83 Polaris Star 250
*90 Yamaha Exciter---Wanna trade even up for an Indy Trail,Or any Indy of equal Value!!
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November 10th 2009 at 9:34 AM
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motor-king
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44 Posts
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Member Since: December 30th 2008
Location: Ashland, WI, USA
Current Sled: 99 XCR 440, Indy 500
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Just curious if any of you guys were looking for spare engine parts for your 440's. I'm parting out a 99 xcr, still have both exhaust valve assy's, one good cylinder, mint primary clutch with the WIDE rollers, etc. Let me know. Thanks.
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November 10th 2009 at 12:41 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 5 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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I am going to try a blue/orange with a HSP 50/36s. Hopefully it slows the upshift enough. I was using a epi orange in #3 last year and it worked pretty good. till the engine got hot with T-flow set at 7 o'clock position with 380. Was very rich.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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November 10th 2009 at 2:33 PM
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THE_Norwegian
:)
THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D.
Updated Friday at 5:32 PM
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446 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 29th 2008
Location: Norway
Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
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Quote originally posted by atvman29
Quote originally posted by THE_Norwegian
Quote originally posted by xcr440
the 045 is a good tight tolerance belt. That was all i used to run.
i bought all 4 for what i paid i get 1,5 belts here and if i dont like them i can sell them and make some money
anyone here repaired cracks in the hood ? mine got some bad ones after i forgot the hood straps off while the sled was on the trailer backwards. the hood flew open at 60mph
i bought a epoxy/fiberglass kit, heard good things about them.
MY hood was cracked all the way down the furthest rear left corner, and being as cheap as I am, I got some clear duct tape, and gorilla glue epoxy, and so far so good. Seems pretty darn tight to be honest! I taped up the top side and spray painted over it to hold it down, then put a whole thing of the epoxy in the crack on the inside. Its not super pretty, but it looks a lot better than it did!
nice, you can fix everything with tape and glue
tried the epoxy kit on my yamaha hood, seems hold up good 
im tearing down the front and rear suspension now, and since its already in parts. im going to paint all the parts, some of them are pretty rusty.
i might paint some of the suspension parts red, it might look cool
* XCR 440 *
"I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!"
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November 10th 2009 at 7:05 PM
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hayesxcr440
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I painted my brothers suspension with rust-oleum paint and it held up a lot better than the napa rust paint that i used on my sled, it also helps to scuff up the primer with a sos pad before you start with putting the red paint on.
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November 10th 2009 at 8:12 PM
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tnmemr
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
I am going to try a blue/orange with a HSP 50/36s. Hopefully it slows the upshift enough. I was using a epi orange in #3 last year and it worked pretty good. till the engine got hot with T-flow set at 7 o'clock position with 380. Was very rich.
I used an HSP white secondary, (45/100) with good results. This spring is for lower HP sleds. The Pol. blue/orange is for higher HP sleds as is the HSP purple (50/75). I asked 2 years ago about using the HSP purple to cure the too quick upshift and slow backshift problem and was told that the purple was for the XCR 800 and piped Ultras etc. The HSP white has less torsional load and smaller diameter wire but is taller for more side pressure. It came with the kits for the monoblock XCR 600s with a 34s helix. Those XCR 6s had a very similar power band to our XCR 440s. Engagement @ 5000+, mid 90s HP, and 8500 shift-out rpm.
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