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December 14th 2008 at 3:43 PM
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obee
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763 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: May 22nd 2006
Location: Orillia, On, Canada
Current Sled: 1997 Polaris Xcr 440
2008-2009 Miles: 2600
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Hey guys just got in from a little ride on the 440. I have put approx 100 miles on the sled and have a couple questions. When i grab a mitfull really quick the sled seems to sputter a bit as if it's getting to much gas or something, but eventually clears itself. It only does this every once in a while. Another question i have is, my exhaust valves seem to be leaking oil. So tonight i took them out thinking i may just need a couple gaskets, but the old gaskets looked fine. What else would cause this?
Quote originally posted by BRP-4-LIFE
Before I continue, if I don't keep this sled for the whole season, I promise to never sign on to Snowmobile Fanatics again.
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December 14th 2008 at 4:06 PM
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tnmemr
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506 Posts
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Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: WI, USA
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As has been said many times these sleds are tempermental to jetting. You are probably on the rich side. How is the belt to sheave clearance and deflection? What were the conditions you were riding in as well as the elevation? How is your sled set-up?
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December 14th 2008 at 4:58 PM
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NickJ
Advanced Member
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1247 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: March 31st 2005
Location: Little Falls, MN, USA
Current Sled: 1999 XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 583
2009-2010 Miles: 0
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Got a short ride in on the 440. I think the jetting specs I stated earlier should be about spot on with the UFOs and tempaflow. I have a bog, but plugs read perfect, no loading, and good idle.
I think the bog is my worn belt, its sitting low in secondary which should be adjusted.
99' XCR 440 (GEN II)
96' YAMAHA YZF 600
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December 14th 2008 at 5:07 PM
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tnmemr
Red
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506 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: WI, USA
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Has anyone experimented with different VES springs in the 440?
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December 14th 2008 at 5:18 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over an hour ago
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12582 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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nope, Guy I bought mine from said not to, no gains. He raced them so I beleive what he said.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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December 14th 2008 at 6:04 PM
[ Modified December 14th 2008 at 6:07 PM
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CanadianXCR
New Ice Ripper!
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1642 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 18th 2004
Location: Barrie, ON, Canada
Current Sled: 1998 XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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Quote originally posted by tnmemr
The biggest problem I've found with LEDs is that they often are not as bright as the incandescents. I don't want less light. More is better to see and be seen. Did you use the same LEDs for your tail light?
LEDs hve come a long way in the last few years. Std LEDs usually do suck, all of the ones I'm using are from the website I posted the link to and are all "super" bright. The range of light and projections are improving making LED's the way to go. I bet in 10 years we'll see 30-40% of new cars with LED headlights, I believe Audi already has them with the R8.
Quote originally posted by obee
Hey guys just got in from a little ride on the 440. I have put approx 100 miles on the sled and have a couple questions. When i grab a mitfull really quick the sled seems to sputter a bit as if it's getting to much gas or something, but eventually clears itself. It only does this every once in a while. Another question i have is, my exhaust valves seem to be leaking oil. So tonight i took them out thinking i may just need a couple gaskets, but the old gaskets looked fine. What else would cause this?
Are the trails open up there? Dude it was well above freezing today so most likely your running pig rich. The oil is normal, especially since your running fat today. are the bellows still ok, no rips?
98 XCR 440 / Woodys / Hot Seat Performance / Shock Pros / Cobra / Sportech / Fox / TEAM / Camoplast Ice Ripper
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December 16th 2008 at 8:21 PM
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obee
Average Member
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763 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: May 22nd 2006
Location: Orillia, On, Canada
Current Sled: 1997 Polaris Xcr 440
2008-2009 Miles: 2600
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No the trails aren't open. I've mainly been riding some of the powder we had and doing alot of pit riding. Trails should be opening soon though!
Also on Sunday when i had the sled out it was just slightly above 0. 1 degree celsius was the approximate temperature so it shouldn't have been that bad.
I took my exhaust valves out to clean them, and what a mess. Both bellows were very slightly cracked causing oil to be everywhere. Will i notice any difference in power with some cleaned valves, new gaskets and new bellows?
One other question is what belts are you boys running? 3211067 is the factory measured belt for the machine which is on it right now but is there another number that will work?
Quote originally posted by BRP-4-LIFE
Before I continue, if I don't keep this sled for the whole season, I promise to never sign on to Snowmobile Fanatics again.
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December 16th 2008 at 9:08 PM
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CanadianXCR
New Ice Ripper!
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1642 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 18th 2004
Location: Barrie, ON, Canada
Current Sled: 1998 XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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Yes cracked bellows will make it run like a dog. And yes any temps near or above zero when runnintg stock jetting will make it run like crap. Service the valves and you should notice a difference, mostly in top end though. Most guys are running the 074 belt.
98 XCR 440 / Woodys / Hot Seat Performance / Shock Pros / Cobra / Sportech / Fox / TEAM / Camoplast Ice Ripper
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December 16th 2008 at 9:11 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over an hour ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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074 belt here.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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December 16th 2008 at 9:16 PM
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tnmemr
Red
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506 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: WI, USA
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074
075 w/ heavier clutch weights (harder compound)
Canadian XCR,
Do you have any more pics for us with your LEDs?
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December 16th 2008 at 10:06 PM
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unclemyke
Junior Member
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248 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: January 24th 2004
Location: Shelby Twp, MI, USA
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I'm sure it's been covered, but is there any aftermarket pipe or can or both for our little monsters?
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December 16th 2008 at 11:56 PM
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NickJ
Advanced Member
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1247 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 31st 2005
Location: Little Falls, MN, USA
Current Sled: 1999 XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 583
2009-2010 Miles: 0
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Quote originally posted by unclemyke
I'm sure it's been covered, but is there any aftermarket pipe or can or both for our little monsters?
Nope. I have a custom can I made with an Aluminum universal race silencer and some mandral bent tubing. theres a sound clip on here somewhere. I havent used it in a couple seasons though. Went back to stock. here it is
[link= http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/galler...y.aspxlink]
99' XCR 440 (GEN II)
96' YAMAHA YZF 600
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December 17th 2008 at 3:28 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over an hour ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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December 17th 2008 at 6:12 PM
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CanadianXCR
New Ice Ripper!
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1642 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 18th 2004
Location: Barrie, ON, Canada
Current Sled: 1998 XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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Quote originally posted by tnmemr
074
075 w/ heavier clutch weights (harder compound)
Canadian XCR,
Do you have any more pics for us with your LEDs?
Not yet, still haven't got my Gauges in, shipping from the US is normally pretty slow, border bs usually. Once I get them (hopefully soon) I'll be sure to post up some before and after pics, with std lights, std, LED's and the super LED's. Giggidy.
98 XCR 440 / Woodys / Hot Seat Performance / Shock Pros / Cobra / Sportech / Fox / TEAM / Camoplast Ice Ripper
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December 17th 2008 at 10:34 PM
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NickJ
Advanced Member
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1247 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 31st 2005
Location: Little Falls, MN, USA
Current Sled: 1999 XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 583
2009-2010 Miles: 0
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Well I rode the xcr to work today. 51 miles put on there and back, gas gauge is on the 1/4-reserve line. With milage this horrible I think I might end up scrapping the UFOs and going back to stock. That is well below 10 mpg, Im sure I had plenty of track spin the majority of the time though. Pretty powdery.
99' XCR 440 (GEN II)
96' YAMAHA YZF 600
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December 18th 2008 at 12:51 AM
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tnmemr
Red
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506 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: WI, USA
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Quote originally posted by NickJ
Well I rode the xcr to work today. 51 miles put on there and back, gas gauge is on the 1/4-reserve line. With milage this horrible I think I might end up scrapping the UFOs and going back to stock. That is well below 10 mpg, Im sure I had plenty of track spin the majority of the time though. Pretty powdery.
When I talked to Lonn @ Thunder Products about the UFOs he suggested starting with a 17.5 pilot. This is using the 3.5 slide cutaway. Where is your needle set? I talked to a guy locally with a 98 XCR 440, he's been running 330 mains down to 0* F with the e-clip in the #2 position from the top. Run 'em lean is what he stressed.
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December 18th 2008 at 7:42 AM
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tnmemr
Red
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506 Posts
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Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: WI, USA
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The guy I was talking about in the above post was not running UFOs or a Tempa Flow.
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December 18th 2008 at 7:51 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over an hour ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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I ran 330's last year all of febuary in wi. Ran nice and crisp. I wouldn't do any long runs with it but it ran good.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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December 18th 2008 at 4:48 PM
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Remember when you change to the 074 belt to change your belt clearance to .020''-.030'' with a NEW belt. Deflection set to 1.25''.
Baddeck, Nova Scotia
1998 XCR 440
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December 20th 2008 at 11:00 AM
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CanadianXCR
New Ice Ripper!
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1642 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 18th 2004
Location: Barrie, ON, Canada
Current Sled: 1998 XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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Got my whiteface tach today. They are less bright than my stock ones even with the LED's. The colour for the backlighting works a little different than the stock gauge so it didn't have that nice indiglo look I was hoping for. Sold my original track 20 minutes ago, hopefully take the sled to my buddies shop tonite and swap in the new one, still not sure what to go with, depends on what he's got in stock and how much I want to spend, either way a minimum of 1" will go on. Got the parts in for the roller secondary too, will have to give that a try.
98 XCR 440 / Woodys / Hot Seat Performance / Shock Pros / Cobra / Sportech / Fox / TEAM / Camoplast Ice Ripper
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December 20th 2008 at 11:11 AM
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xc600rmk
Friend of Fast
xc600rmk need info on the exciter!!
Updated Last Sunday at 12:00 PM
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2047 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 27th 2007
Location: Albion, NY, USA
Current Sled: 04 Pro-X 600,98XC600rmk
2008-2009 Miles: 1,700ish
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same here white faced tack with led lights in there hoping for brightness......NOT BRIGHT! kinda sux
*04 Pro-X 600-A few mods,and go-fast parts.......136" x 1.25" this winter
*98 XC600 and some RMK add ons-The sons ride this winter
*98 XCR440 and some SKS add ons------SOLD :-(
*83 Polaris Star 250
*90 Yamaha Exciter---Wanna trade even up for an Indy Trail,Or any Indy of equal Value!!
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December 20th 2008 at 1:07 PM
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polaris_13
Starting Member
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25 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: September 8th 2008
Location: Walton, New York, USA
Current Sled: 95 zr 580 carb
2008-2009 Miles: 209
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hey guys i was wondering if you might be able to help me with my sled, 93 xcr 440 its loadin up with fuel horrible when i start it its got 270 main jets the needle is in the middle position im not sure about pilots where are they at? the air screw is 2 turns out. polaris says its supposed to have a 290 main on the waterpump side and a 270 on the clutch side im pretty new to carbs so any help would be sweet thanks
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December 20th 2008 at 1:14 PM
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finnyct90
Starting Member
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31 Posts
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Member Since: November 26th 2008
Current Sled: 92 440 XCR
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We got about 10 inches of snow here yesterday!! I got the "new 92 XCR 440" out this afternoon and took it for a few runs out on the ball fields. It seems to be ok, no noises, pops,etc. Now I want to sell my old 92 440 xcr, to finance my xtra 10 project, today would be a good day to park it out by the road, do you guys think 500.00 is a fair price? 4000 miles, seat is good, hood is ok, runs great, good windshield, worn track. never let me down.
Spencer
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December 20th 2008 at 1:41 PM
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bklf7
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218 Posts
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Member Since: April 27th 2006
Location: Orford, NH, USA
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Quote originally posted by finnyct90
We got about 10 inches of snow here yesterday!! I got the "new 92 XCR 440" out this afternoon and took it for a few runs out on the ball fields. It seems to be ok, no noises, pops,etc. Now I want to sell my old 92 440 xcr, to finance my xtra 10 project, today would be a good day to park it out by the road, do you guys think 500.00 is a fair price? 4000 miles, seat is good, hood is ok, runs great, good windshield, worn track. never let me down.
Where are you located? Interested in the 440.
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December 20th 2008 at 7:26 PM
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finnyct90
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31 Posts
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Member Since: November 26th 2008
Current Sled: 92 440 XCR
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I am down near Albany NY, I has got to be a good 4 1/2 hours away from you,
It is the one on the right, I have cleaned it up a bit since this picture was taken.
I was hoping to sell it local but if you are interested, I'll send pictures and describe it as best I can.
Spencer
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