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XCR 440 owners.
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January 25th 2009 at 7:57 PM
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XC8HUNDY
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38 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 27th 2008
Location: Plover, WI, USA
Current Sled: 01 XCSP 800
2008-2009 Miles: 250
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Can somebody tell me if the primary clutches on Fuji engines will interchange between other Fuji engines?
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January 25th 2009 at 8:08 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12578 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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From what I have worked on fuji P85's are the same.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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January 26th 2009 at 6:45 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
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12578 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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need to bring it up from page 3.
I did some practice runs. Hsp clutching is junk, plain and simple.
after the belt got warm after 3 runs I would lose 20 mph.
Went back to my hsp white, s53h, hsp orange, r-8. Will run 90 mph. Still think i have not enough secondary spring pressure.
Roller secondary and 50/36 is too much angle won't pull the 36 at wot. only get 70 mph out of it.
After putting in the 53's I now need more fuel plugs are a tad too white for my liking after a few 1 mile runs.
Got some 380's to try.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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January 26th 2009 at 8:55 PM
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ssracing
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27 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 22nd 2008
Current Sled: ProX 440, XCSP500
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Would anybody be interested in a 98 XCR 440 with a blown engine for $600. I had a guy call me tonight and ask if I wanted it, he said it is in excelent condition with a cover. He said its his father inlaws and he thinks it might have a new track. He also offered me a 01 XCF with a blown engine, and cover for $700. I guess the father inlaw smoked both engines last week in Northern Michigan. You can reach me at hsgreen28@hotmail.com Thanks
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January 27th 2009 at 8:54 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12578 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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where are you located?
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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January 27th 2009 at 9:01 AM
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scorpionlover
Junior Member
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330 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: August 17th 2007
Location: Shell Rock, IA, USA
Current Sled: 2002 Polaris 600 RMK
2008-2009 Miles: 900
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Quote originally posted by ssracing
Would anybody be interested in a 98 XCR 440 with a blown engine for $600. I had a guy call me tonight and ask if I wanted it, he said it is in excelent condition with a cover. He said its his father inlaws and he thinks it might have a new track. He also offered me a 01 XCF with a blown engine, and cover for $700. I guess the father inlaw smoked both engines last week in Northern Michigan. You can reach me at hsgreen28@hotmail.com Thanks
Where are the sleds located?
Sleds currently owned. Scorpions- 73 Stinger ET290,74 Super Stinger 340,2-75 340 Whips, 75 400 Whip, 75 440 Whip, 76 Lil Whip, 79 440 Whip, 2-79 440 TK Whip, 2-1980 440 Whip, 1981 Siewinder and a bunch of Scorpion parts sleds. 77 Sno Jet Astro 340. Polaris Sleds- 1976 340 Colt, 1977 340 Colt, 1985 Indy 400 SKS, 1990 Indy Sport 340, 1995 XLT Special, 1999 XC700SP- 136" , 2002 500 Classic and 2002 600 RMK.
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January 27th 2009 at 11:20 AM
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xc600rmk
Friend of Fast
xc600rmk need info on the exciter!!
Updated Last Sunday at 12:00 PM
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2047 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 27th 2007
Location: Albion, NY, USA
Current Sled: 04 Pro-X 600,98XC600rmk
2008-2009 Miles: 1,700ish
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location^^^^^
*04 Pro-X 600-A few mods,and go-fast parts.......136" x 1.25" this winter
*98 XC600 and some RMK add ons-The sons ride this winter
*98 XCR440 and some SKS add ons------SOLD :-(
*83 Polaris Star 250
*90 Yamaha Exciter---Wanna trade even up for an Indy Trail,Or any Indy of equal Value!!
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January 27th 2009 at 6:43 PM
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Airboss
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4 Posts
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My son bought a 2000 XCF 440. I think it was raced, looked like it has been rode hard but still in pretty good shape. Problem is, after it warms up it has a really bad bog under 5000 RPM. Can't hardley get out of it's own way. If you get the RPMs over 5000 runs like a champ. Clutches seem to work fine, plugs are new, swapped secondary coil, not the problem. Currently soaking the carbs & will try diffrent positions on the primary needles. Any other ideas?
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January 27th 2009 at 7:05 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12578 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Quote originally posted by xc600rmk
location^^^^^
If he gets it, cadillac mi
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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January 27th 2009 at 8:23 PM
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Dumz1
Junior Member
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197 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 21st 2009
Location: Holmen, Wi
Current Sled: 1997 XC 600
2008-2009 Miles: 850 +/-
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Well, thought I'd drop a line here...
I became a proud owner of a XCR 440 Mid december.. I put 250 miles on it and the stock 8 in suspension was junk... I just got done putting a xtra 10 out of a 2000 xc and I've got to say I love it. Rides way better. I've got to thank all you guys on here who posted measurement and ideas, spent 4 nights reading and 1 night working on the sled.
1997 XC 600
2004 Sportsman 500HO
Parting out 1993 XLT and 1997 XCR 600
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January 27th 2009 at 9:09 PM
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ssracing
Starting Member
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27 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 22nd 2008
Current Sled: ProX 440, XCSP500
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I'm looking at the sleds on Thurs and I'll take some pics. If I pick them up I'll have them here in Cadillac MI. Sorry for not posting that earlier.
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January 27th 2009 at 9:46 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12578 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Going to try the sled tomorrow with 380 mains, T-flow 1/8 turn ccw, 50/36s, epi orange 3rd hole, 2 .030 washers, hsp white, hsp I-30 weights.
What do you guys see as your fastest speed on the speedo. Most I can get lately is 90 mph.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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January 27th 2009 at 10:07 PM
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skiroulertx447
New Member
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88 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: March 16th 2008
Location: MN
Current Sled: 93 xcr 440
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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My 93 takes off at 5k rpm, and I can get it up to 90-93 mph. I beat my friends 500XC sp off the line up to about 60mph then even to 90 and then he pulls ahead.
93 XCR 440
73 Skiroule RT440
72 Skiroule RTX447
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January 28th 2009 at 7:00 AM
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THE_Norwegian
:)
THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D.
Updated Yesterday at 5:32 PM
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446 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 29th 2008
Location: Norway
Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
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Whats the highest lug height i can use on my 1992 xcr 440 ?
im thinking about buying this :
http://www.autodb.no/cgi-bin/scooter/det...347#bilder
it has 32mm/1,26" lug height ad is 15 wide.... will it fit ?
* XCR 440 *
"I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!"
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January 28th 2009 at 7:47 AM
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tnmemr
Red
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505 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: WI, USA
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
Going to try the sled tomorrow with 380 mains, T-flow 1/8 turn ccw, 50/36s, epi orange 3rd hole, 2 .030 washers, hsp white, hsp I-30 weights.
What do you guys see as your fastest speed on the speedo. Most I can get lately is 90 mph.
I haven't got mine wound out on a long run yet, but in 1/4-1/2 mile, I see 95+ with the Team set-up. 66/44.46, red/blue, HSP black, HSP W2, 370 mains, 159 nozzles T-Flow 1/8 ccw. I wouldn't go any lower than this as I was seeing 1190 and climbing on the EGTs @ WOT for 1/4-1/2 mile. Cocoa brown/rust plugs and piston domes and minimal piston wash. Maybe 1/4". The 159s work ok but do run quite lean. They are not good, according to the EGTs, for steady, part throttle trail riding. 1220+ is what I have seen at 1/8-1/2 throttle. If you choose to run the 159s, change the throttle position often.
Norwegian,
Should fit as long as you have room at the front heat exchanger and the lugs won't bottom much at full compression of the rear skid.. You also have heat exchangers under the running boards correct? Make sure that it has the correct pitch as well. Stock is 2.52"
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January 28th 2009 at 8:05 AM
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THE_Norwegian
:)
THE_Norwegian got some SLP powder pro skis in the mail today :-D.
Updated Yesterday at 5:32 PM
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446 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 29th 2008
Location: Norway
Current Sled: ET 340 and XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 2500KM :-D
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yes the coolers are under the running boards... i have the xtra 10 suspension if that matter...
i have 1" track now, would i notice a diffrence with the 1,25"? :)'
thanks
* XCR 440 *
"I`m not picking my nose.. I´m porting my head!"
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January 28th 2009 at 8:39 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12578 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Quote originally posted by tnmemr
Quote originally posted by xcr440
Going to try the sled tomorrow with 380 mains, T-flow 1/8 turn ccw, 50/36s, epi orange 3rd hole, 2 .030 washers, hsp white, hsp I-30 weights.
What do you guys see as your fastest speed on the speedo. Most I can get lately is 90 mph.
I haven't got mine wound out on a long run yet, but in 1/4-1/2 mile, I see 95+ with the Team set-up. 66/44.46, red/blue, HSP black, HSP W2, 370 mains, 159 nozzles T-Flow 1/8 ccw. I wouldn't go any lower than this as I was seeing 1190 and climbing on the EGTs @ WOT for 1/4-1/2 mile. Cocoa brown/rust plugs and piston domes and minimal piston wash. Maybe 1/4". The 159s work ok but do run quite lean. They are not good, according to the EGTs, for steady, part throttle trail riding. 1220+ is what I have seen at 1/8-1/2 throttle. If you choose to run the 159s, change the throttle position often.
Norwegian,
Should fit as long as you have room at the front heat exchanger and the lugs won't bottom much at full compression of the rear skid.. You also have heat exchangers under the running boards correct? Make sure that it has the correct pitch as well. Stock is 2.52"
how much do the W2 weigh? The I30's weight 50.5g I have the 286's in. Jetting was fine till i put the 53's in, They loaded the engine more and then she was lean. Put some 380's in it last night. Still have to put the clutch and air box on.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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January 28th 2009 at 10:53 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12578 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
Going to try the sled tomorrow with 380 mains, T-flow 1/8 turn ccw, 50/36s, epi orange 3rd hole, 2 .030 washers, hsp white, hsp I-30 weights.
What do you guys see as your fastest speed on the speedo. Most I can get lately is 90 mph.
I saw over 90 mph on the speedo and 87.9 mph on my lowrance gps. I think she needs a tad bit more weight or less secondary spring pessure. I have a set of S51H weights might try them today.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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January 28th 2009 at 10:54 AM
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motor-king
Starting Member
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44 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 30th 2008
Location: Ashland, WI, USA
Current Sled: 99 XCR 440, Indy 500
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Hey guys, just wondering if any of you have experience with, or know of anyone who has put larger cylinders and pistons on a 99 XCR 440 (not the SP). I'm in the process of rebuilding the crank and one of the cylinders is toast as well, so I was thinking of maybe adding jugs off an XC600 or 700? Is this do-able, or am I asking for more trouble than it's worth. Thanks for any help.
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January 28th 2009 at 11:14 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12578 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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It is doable but you need to match the bottom end to fit the cylinders.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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January 28th 2009 at 11:41 AM
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Dumz1
Junior Member
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197 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 21st 2009
Location: Holmen, Wi
Current Sled: 1997 XC 600
2008-2009 Miles: 850 +/-
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about 80mph on the speedo is all I can get out of my stock 94 xcr 440.. It was just fine with the stock rear suspension, but with the xtra 10 I'm topping out way more then before...
1997 XC 600
2004 Sportsman 500HO
Parting out 1993 XLT and 1997 XCR 600
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January 28th 2009 at 12:28 PM
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CanadianXCR
New Ice Ripper!
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1642 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: December 18th 2004
Location: Barrie, ON, Canada
Current Sled: 1998 XCR 440
2008-2009 Miles: 0
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I've been so busy I haven't had chance to hit the trails again. I'd like to see what I can run on the GPS since the track and ski swap, normally I was good to see 98-99 on the speedo, 100 on a cold day.
98 XCR 440 / Woodys / Hot Seat Performance / Shock Pros / Cobra / Sportech / Fox / TEAM / Camoplast Ice Ripper
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January 28th 2009 at 12:35 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
Updated Over 2 hours ago
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12578 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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what you you 97/98 guys running for rpms??
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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January 28th 2009 at 1:02 PM
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motor-king
Starting Member
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44 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 30th 2008
Location: Ashland, WI, USA
Current Sled: 99 XCR 440, Indy 500
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
It is doable but you need to match the bottom end to fit the cylinders.
Thanks XCR. So are you saying that as long as I use the correct length rods, I should be OK? What year Liberty motors would be compatible?
Also, as far as RPM's, my 99 was running 9 grand at WOT.
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January 28th 2009 at 1:25 PM
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tnmemr
Red
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505 Posts
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Member Since: November 7th 2006
Location: WI, USA
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Quote originally posted by motor-king
Hey guys, just wondering if any of you have experience with, or know of anyone who has put larger cylinders and pistons on a 99 XCR 440 (not the SP). I'm in the process of rebuilding the crank and one of the cylinders is toast as well, so I was thinking of maybe adding jugs off an XC600 or 700? Is this do-able, or am I asking for more trouble than it's worth. Thanks for any help.
To go to larger cylinders I believe you would have to do some upper crankcase work as well. The motor you have is a small block and will not work with the cylinders from a big block 600, 700, or 800. The cylinders from a small block 500 or 600 may work, but you still have the crankcase issue as well as the CDI.
xcr,
I'm seeing 84-8500 on the big end which is where it should be for a long pull with a hot pipe. I still have an engagement issue to work out, it comes in at 4950 now, but is better. I'm going to try an almond/gold in the primary to see how it works. The W2s are 49.5 but are notched and heavily tip weighted.
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