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Looking to upgrade to an xtra 10? started by erick
October 7th 2006 at 11:35 AM  [ Modified October 7th 2006 at 11:42 AM ]
 
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okay so looking at the standard length skid, my 95 indy 500 was set up at positions B for rear & A for front, when i went to the place where i got my skid from i took a bunch of measuments & none were the same but they werent off by much. i wanna keep the B position for the rear because it will give me more clearance. my question is since the average move for the extra 10 was about an inch 1/2 could i move the plate one Rivot hole forward & just drill one more hole ?

As for the front & from the first diagram i posted i have those brackets mounted in my tunnel with the holes cut out of the bracket but not cut in the tunnel itself, could i drill my holes in 1 of the 2 positions lower (shown in the diagram) ?

my skid came out of a 96 XCR 440 (by the way)




this is a picture i took of an indy 500 with the extra 10 swapped in it. it looks like he did everything i mentioned but didnt use the B position on the rear. but his skid is completely diff from mine !!




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October 30th 2006 at 5:37 PM
 
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okay since i didnt recieve much help i decided to tackle it on my own, & i have issues. when i first mounted it it didnt wanna fully compress/ the suspenssion was really stiff/ & track was "loose". After putting the front mounts back into the stock location my holes are almost exact to the measurments i have on paper, & my center to center distance is about 22 3/4 (from the write up it should be between 22-23 so im good there) However the track is really tight (with tension all the way loose) the suspenssion will compresses no problem when i jump on it but its not very stiff at all ! i adjusted the springs to the stiffest point & it feels the same... Any help would be appreciated !




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October 31st 2006 at 5:27 AM
 
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You say your skid looks different than the pic? The one you posted is an xtra10, post a pic of your skid. If you have an edge or xtra12 or M-10 skid the mounting points are different. I did the the swap moving the rear mount 1 bolt forward (like your second pic) and it worked great.




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October 31st 2006 at 10:27 AM
 
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ive come to the assumption that maby the adjustable shock isnt at its stiffest point & since i dont have the remote wire i cant adjust this at the moment, But how would that explain my track issues, my bolts are flush so the idlers cant go any further forward. also when i ran the sled it makes alot of clicking noises from the slides ( i assume the track is slapping the slides because of how tight it is... ohh an yes its an extra ten, i meant different because it doesnt have the adjustable shock nor fox shocks. the skid came out of a 96 XCR 440 & i moved the back plate more than & inch Thanks for your reply !




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October 31st 2006 at 10:40 AM
 
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if having the front mounting points to low, tighten up my track ?




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October 31st 2006 at 1:59 PM
 
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I ended up with the rear mount in the A position and the front in the highest position. I had the clicking noise and the windows on the track were hitting the plastic on the front of the rails. Moving to the top fixed it.




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October 31st 2006 at 4:46 PM
 
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i think i might try moving the fronts up As id like to keep the rear the same Thanks for your input !




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December 23rd 2006 at 8:07 PM
 
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In my opinion, this is the best mod ever to the wedge/evolved chassis. I got the skid out of a XCR 800. After I put in the XTRA-10, the thing likes the big air landings better than most SCORE cars do...It was well worth the 4 hours of effort. Only problem is is that I cannot find any wheels to match the rest of the sled.



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December 27th 2006 at 9:51 PM
 
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if u want an upgrade dont waste your time on the extra 10, u might as well go all the way to the edge suspension. i dont have the specs but i know they fit and much much better ride



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January 3rd 2007 at 11:11 PM
 
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i have a 91 indy 400 what type of suspension is in it and what do you recamend me to put in it.



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January 31st 2007 at 6:09 PM
 
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Just a bit of info for anyone doing this swap. If you have a sled with the Dial Adjust rear skid, you will need to move your front mount hole forward. I just did a swap on a 90 650 and it had the dial adjust and I couldnt get the skid in until the front was moved.



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February 6th 2007 at 7:06 PM
 
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i put in the extra 10 last weak it looking really good, put 4 more inches of travel and now i have fox shocks, also if you did the edge swap it would raise the back up too high putting more pressure on the skis and i dont think you can put a edge front suspension in a wedge to fix the problem.



95 xcr 600 trips
3 inch riser,
bar hooks,
new track,
fox all around, xtra 10
93 indy 440 parts
94 Gmc 1500 4x4 etx. cab
04 Yamaha Wolverine
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February 21st 2007 at 8:31 PM
 
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now is a extra 10 beter than an extra 12



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February 22nd 2007 at 10:14 AM
 
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I think the xtra-10 is better, also you can't swap in a extra-12, there are many posts about extra 10-12



95 xcr 600 trips
3 inch riser,
bar hooks,
new track,
fox all around, xtra 10
93 indy 440 parts
94 Gmc 1500 4x4 etx. cab
04 Yamaha Wolverine
DG skid plate

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March 13th 2007 at 1:57 AM  [ Modified March 13th 2007 at 1:58 AM ]
 
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I would have to agree with you I have 2 xtra 10s in my shop now and the one out of my 98 xc the front arm is an inch taller when measured off of the ground the then older one thats in my storm...

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as it says on my site the measurements are from a 97 Ultra SPX what you are installing it in makes little difference it is more of what the skid came out of. Some newer extra 10 skids had more travel in the front arm which would call for raising the front arm but people have argued that point with me for years so I stopped fighting it. What you would get is not enought ski presure and it would be easily resolved by tightening the limiter strap but at the expense of an inch of front arm travel.



just somthing id like to add.

if you can, dont get any old xtra-10. get one out of a XC. they come with several more options, like where the scissers are bolted in and what not.. makes it more tunable to your riding style. which the other style x-10's didnt have. unless of course all you do is powder ride, then get a RMK suspension so its not coupled.



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March 20th 2007 at 8:40 PM
 
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Sorry but why would you want a rear that is not coupled?



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March 28th 2007 at 12:31 PM
 
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I'm picking up an XTRA-10 this weekend so definitely appreciate this thread. It's going in a 90 Indy 500. I'll get some b&a pics as I work throught it.
Thanks for all the info. Randy



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April 2nd 2007 at 5:08 PM
 
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Well I didn't get it last week end so we're doing it this weekend.
I'm looking forward to doing this swap.



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1972 SkiDoo Oly 399's (2)
1996 Yamaha Wolverine
1979 Yamaha TT-500
Other Toys
1979 Yamaha SR500
1983 Yamaha Vision
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1974 BMW R/90
1989 Yamaha FJ1100
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April 26th 2007 at 2:16 PM
 
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Picked up the skid a couple of weeks ago but haven't made room in the garage yet to work on it. I'm thinking of having the shocks rebuilt and just generally going through everything. Spring has sprung.



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1972 Skiroule RT440
1972 SkiDoo Oly 399's (2)
1996 Yamaha Wolverine
1979 Yamaha TT-500
Other Toys
1979 Yamaha SR500
1983 Yamaha Vision
The rest
1974 BMW R/90
1989 Yamaha FJ1100
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August 31st 2007 at 2:23 AM  [ Modified August 31st 2007 at 2:16 PM by erick ]
 
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September 2nd 2007 at 11:51 AM
 
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Quote originally posted by the_hog

Just a bit of info for anyone doing this swap. If you have a sled with the Dial Adjust rear skid, you will need to move your front mount hole forward. I just did a swap on a 90 650 and it had the dial adjust and I couldnt get the skid in until the front was moved.


I attached a pic of the front plate once I marked the spot for the new hole. My question is do I need to relocate the plates or will it be okay seeing as the new hole is still on the backup plate.


I added the rear plate pics because it shows how close the thread measurements worked out.






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1990 Indy 500
Added Xtra-10
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1972 Skiroule RT440
1972 SkiDoo Oly 399's (2)
1996 Yamaha Wolverine
1979 Yamaha TT-500
Other Toys
1979 Yamaha SR500
1983 Yamaha Vision
The rest
1974 BMW R/90
1989 Yamaha FJ1100
1990 Izuzu Amigo(White)
1992 Izuzu Amigo(Black)

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October 1st 2007 at 6:46 PM
 
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anyone need an ectra 10 w/o shocks. make an offer. will sell cheep.



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October 24th 2007 at 8:03 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by Skipponator

Great sticky, think you can roust up a link for swapping in an Edge in an Wedge?

I did switch 2 years ago, front bolt holes should work fine and backs must go forward 3 and 3/8 inches.





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November 20th 2007 at 11:00 PM
 
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Are the mounting locations the same for a 2002 Edge RMK 136" as the standard edge suspension?




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December 19th 2007 at 3:53 PM
 
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I put an M10 in a 1990 650 Indy that came out of an 06 Polaris, worked great!




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