Rusty Pipe Painting 101 started by arcticcatmatt
	November 2nd 2006 at 11:10 AM  [ Modified October 25th 2007 at 8:32 AM ] Post #1
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14005 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	I got a big response from people when I did this so I thought I would repost some stuff. I bought some 1200 degree paint from Dupli-Color for exhaust. It has ceramic in it and if you paint then touch it with your fingers, it comes off. Here it is (but I used the silver of course) Now.. I had my original pipes And I had my original exhaust flanges Then I bead blasted them bad boys (no picture of the blasted flanges) Then I got the paint out and followed the instructions. I think it was a coating every 10 mins.. 3 coatings total Flanges painted and mounted I also blasted and repacked my black magic can (there is a seperate how to on that one). I installed everything.. and it looked 100x better. I have ran it for about 20 mins and no problems yet. If I have a problem long term (this winter will be first test), I will post it here. I was curious as to why the paint got silver on my hands a week after it was painted. I wrote the company and here are the emails from our communication Hello! This weekend I sandblasted my snowmobile exhaust pipes and applied your aluminum color 1200 degree high heat paint. After it was all dry, I touched the pipes and got a silver residue on my hand. The paint was dry of course. I am wondering what this silver residue is. Will this go away after the pipes are heated up for the first time? Matthew, Thank you for taking the time to contact us. The paint will stop "leafing" off of the surface once it is heat cured. For maximum adhesion and heat resilience, High Heat Paint should be heat cured for proper performance. The key to curing is the "bake on" time. For maximum heat resistance cure the finish at 300 Fahrenheit for 2 hours, 400 Fahrenheit for 1-1/2 hours, or 600 Fahrenheit for 1 hour. This can be substituted by starting your snowmobile for about 30 seconds or so and then turning it off and letting it cool down. You can do this several times, but it may not be as effective as actually baking the part. Good luck with your project. Regards, Ray Rating: +2 Quick Edit Edit Topic

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	November 2nd 2006 at 11:17 AM Post #2
	Offshore24 Dismember 4604 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 30th 2002 Location: NOYDB, Confusion, Azerbaijan Current Sled: 05' Gade 2008-2009 Miles: 2999
	I need a bigger oven! 2005 Ski-Doo MXZ Renegade 600 SDI Save your breath, you'll need it to blow up your date. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 2nd 2006 at 11:20 AM Post #3
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14005 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	^ Me too! oh well.. I guess me starting it over and over was a good thing haha Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 2nd 2006 at 11:27 AM Post #4
	nightmanx1 Junior Member 189 Posts Group: Members Member Since: September 20th 2005 Location: Thornton, Co, USA
	The paint is cures from the heat of the exhaust. Start the engine and let it get up to temp for about 10 min and it should do the job. I had the same thing when I did my buggy engine and the pait was tacky foy about 2 weeks till I ran the engine. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 2nd 2006 at 2:30 PM Post #5
	Quinlan Department of Corrections Quinlan is a little disappointed that he received HMK Highmark 4 boots instead of the Highmark Pros as he had anticipated... Updated Yesterday at 6:19 PM 9719 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: December 8th 2003 Location: Fargo, ND, USA Current Sled: 06 SP 440/700, 98 ZR 600 2008-2009 Miles: 365
	That's a nice turnaround there Matt...nicely done! 2006 Arctic Cat SnoPro 440/700 EFI 1998 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI Custom 1996 Ski-Doo FormulaIII 600 A mountain lion roaming the prairie found a bull, killed it and ate the entire bull. With a heavy belly, unable to walk, the lion laid in the tall grass moaning and roaring. Soon a hunter, attracted by the roaring, shot and killed the lion. Moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut! Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 6th 2006 at 8:25 PM Post #6
	three6mafia Starting Member 10 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 6th 2006 Location: sylvan lake, alberta, Canada
	how many times do u want to do that like 10 or 5 or.. just for ten minutes ive spent all summer poishing my tunnel just waitin on the snow now 2003 vertical escape 159" lightweight boss seat simmons ski's Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 6th 2006 at 10:45 PM Post #7
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14005 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	^ I do not understand your post. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 7th 2006 at 10:31 AM Post #8
	nightmanx1 Junior Member 189 Posts Group: Members Member Since: September 20th 2005 Location: Thornton, Co, USA
	I would do it 2 times since you are trying to back it on. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 7th 2006 at 11:00 AM Post #9
	ripperd kick@$$ 7425 Posts Group: Members Member Since: November 7th 2001 Location: Brooklyn Center, MN, USA Current Sled: 07 Rev 600 mod
	I did the same thing with my XCR's exhaust and it worked pretty well for a season. Although I didn't get the rust off as well, I just used naval jelly and a brush. It lasted about 1.5 seasons before it got rusty again. www.ripperd.com Polaris Racing helmet for sale! http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/forum/...splay.aspx Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 7th 2006 at 12:00 PM Post #10
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14005 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	^ Sandblasting the crap out of them hopefully made them last a few years. But after looking at my pictures again, I could have done a better job. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 14th 2006 at 11:19 AM Post #11
	DG_storm_rider Moddifier 599 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 23rd 2006 Location: Tulelake, CA, USA Current Sled: 1995 Storm 800 Modified 2008-2009 Miles: 412 2009-2010 Miles: Storage
	I just painted the pipes on my storm, Ill post a pick once they're on. 1995 Polaris Storm 800 EPI High Rev Clutch Wiseco Balanced Top End Ceramic Coated Pipes DG Stinger Exhaust Full Xtra-10 Suspension Conversion Tracksusa 144" Tip-up Rail Conversion Camoplast Predator 1.5" 144" Track Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	November 14th 2006 at 4:24 PM Post #12
	Clouse2411 Advanced Member Clouse2411 has the drop and rolled templates on. Should have the track, rear skid and motor in tommarow (: Winter is comming. Updated Thursday at 9:57 PM 1338 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 18th 2006 Location: Tiffin, OH, USA Current Sled: 93 Polaris XLT 650 RMK
	my bro just painted his on his xlt 600 i got pics 1997 Ford F-350 XLT Reg Cab, Long Bed, 7.3L Powerstroke, 2.2k resistor, 3in Downpipe, 5in Single Stack, 2 12in Subs, 1000 Watt Sony Amp, Sony Head Unit,And Custom Air Intake 1993 Polaris XLT 650 RMK Indy 650 Motor, PSI Modblaster Pipes, Clutched And Geared, Kimpex Plastic Ski's, Polished Tunnel and Bumpers, Black-out Headlight Cover, Gravity-Worx Racing Throttle Cable, Low Black Windshield, Gen II Jackshaft And Chaincase, ODI 8in Grips, RSI handlebar hooks, 136x1.25 Polaris Take-off, Homemade Tunnel Extension, Edge Rear Skid, Nosecone Mounted Fog Lights, Sno-Stuff Light Weight Hood, 4 Display Digatron, Billet Throttle Block, Chrome PowerMadd Handguards, Light-Weight Brake Rotor, Black PowderCoated Skid and Heads, Custom Console, Skidplate, And Bumper, Cometic Gasket Kit, WMS Support Block, Edge Flap, Edge Coolant Bottle, SLP High-Flow Airbox, Moved Running Board Coolers, Carbon Fiber Wrap, Chrome Trim, TracksUSA Rail Extensions, Xtra 10 Shocks, Shorty Seat, Edge Tank, Chromoly Trailing Arms And Radius Rods, Tison Dropped And Rolled Chaincase, And Rear Skid Moved Back 2.5in. To Come: Pro-X Brake XC Spindles Straight Bars 6061 Auminum Radius Rods 6.25-8in Rox Adjustable Riser Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	September 15th 2007 at 9:21 PM Post #13
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14005 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	This is sorta a bump. Actual how-to's are getting buried pages back by threads created in the wrong section (in how-to when they shouldn't be) Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 24th 2007 at 10:11 PM Post #14
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14005 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	Here we are a year later. I ran them for a season and the rust is coming back. I called duplicolor and they told me to use high heat primer, then high heat paint again, bake them in an oven at 300 degrees for 2 hours. So I have to strip them. here is what they look like after a season I used this stuff on my motorcycle parts I did. It worked GREAT. So lets try it on this 1200 super paint. I got that at advanced auto parts for 6 bucks I think. I hung up 1 pipe in the tree to try it. The instructions say it has to be over 70 degrees out. Its 50 at the moment.. ahh what the heck lets give it a shot. I just did one to test it. Here is what it looked like after spraying it. It has only been on the pipe for 2 mins. Notice it turned it brown and is peeling off already. I will go out tommorrow and see how it did. I will scrub it with a wire brush and wash it with water. I will sandblast it again at work. If this process works, I will do it to all the other parts (pipes, stinger can, flanges). I purchased the high heat primer and more paint so I hope to have these done and baked on for another season of testing. Would have been nice to know you have to use the high heat primer last year!! I will keep this updated. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	October 25th 2007 at 8:55 AM Post #15
	ProXR racer this weather needs to straiten up! 430 Posts Group: Members Member Since: March 11th 2004 Location: Bozeman, Montana, USA Current Sled: 04 proxr 800, 97 xcr 440 2008-2009 Miles: 12
	i have never heard of high temp primer, but im interested in seeing if it will infact help the pipes from rusting. 04 Pro XR 800- slp can, vforce3, chrome windsheild, carbon fiber front bumper, diamond plate skidplate, 97 XCR 440- vforce delta reads, 1.25 xforce track, m-10 suspension, clutched, geared, 2 in bar risor, new windshield Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 10th 2008 at 9:42 PM Post #16
	650indy1 Picture me ridin 103 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 8th 2008 Location: woodridge, IL, USA Current Sled: 90 rxl 01 LE 800 2008-2009 Miles: 375
	I've had good luck with por-15 paint on my car manifolds they have many prep and paint products on there website por-15.com Im going to try it on my pipes this year.The car monifolds were done two years ago and still look good Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 13th 2008 at 9:02 AM Post #17
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14005 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	I blasted the pipes then primed them, then painted them, then ran them thru a high heat oven to cure them. I just got them installed hope they fair better this time Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 13th 2008 at 9:22 AM Post #18
	b.lee Cummins Fanatic 401 Posts Group: Members Member Since: November 27th 2005 Location: Almont, MI, USA Current Sled: 2001 MXZ 600 2008-2009 Miles: 2,101+
	how does the exhaust sound now with the silencers? what kind are they? did you have to re-jet or ? 96 Cummins 2500 4x4, #10 plate, 3KGSK, 4" exhaust, gauges w/ 395k Miles 98 Z28 aka "The Mustang Beater" 01 MXZ 600 Studded Reverse 86 Trx250r Laeger MX Chassis, Long travel suspension, etc Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 27th 2008 at 3:32 PM Post #19
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14005 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	^ I will send you a link to my video clip of the sled running with the silencers. I have bad news. 13 miles on my sleds and the pipes are starting to look like this I did everything by the book this time and now it looks worse than it did the first time! UGHGHG. I am emailing duplicolor. I have alot of money in this. 4-5 cans of paint and 1 can of primer. All are 6 bucks a can. So 40 bucks in paint, and alot of time. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 27th 2008 at 3:47 PM Post #20
	97xlt600 Average Member 680 Posts Group: Members Member Since: November 8th 2006 Location: Yale, michigan, USA Current Sled: 1997 xlt 2008-2009 Miles: 370kaboom
	That sucks what happend? bubbles 1997 xlt 600 trips beat a pair every time... IF they hold together!!!! 1992 wrangler lifted a lot of fun. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 27th 2008 at 3:55 PM Post #21
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14005 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	^ I am guessing their so called 1200 degree heat bubbles over 500 degrees. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 27th 2008 at 4:58 PM Post #22
	thewayout440 777 thewayout440 mmmmpow. Updated Last Monday at 7:17 AM 3162 Posts Group: Members Member Since: June 3rd 2006 Location: chittenango, ny, USA Current Sled: 2005 iq r 440 2008-2009 Miles: 1250 ish
	thats odd because i have 244 mile on my pipe w/ 500 degree paint and it holding.... i dont understand... it looks as tho you painted you pipe flawlessly w/ the perfect process TEAM 50 CAL. 2005 iqr 440 stock:( prox 440 chassis water xer in the making 600 big block motor other odds and ends 2003 prox 600 ( SOLD ) rumble pack can, vforce 3 reeds, powermadd hand guards, low black windshield, 1.25 kimpex x-force, 96 woodys studs w/ double backers and tall nuts, black c&a adx's, shorty, race snowflap, 6in riser w/ protaper sno-x bars, wps mountain bar and alluminum throttle block, long grips, black xxx mod rods hood (plenty more to come) 1995 xcr 600 triple ( SOLD ) fox shox, xtra 10 rear, tether, shorty seat, edge tank, custom paint, dg can, low black windshield, 1 in track, pod filters, xeon bulb, custom bars set up, black headlight cover, sno-stuff skis The c&a's are like running power steering, you don't need to put any effort for it to turn. -xcr440 Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	April 13th 2008 at 7:38 PM Post #23
	Ultra680 Senior Member 2235 Posts Group: Members Member Since: June 5th 2004 Location: Anywhere, Everywhere, USA Current Sled: 2000 XCR 800 2008-2009 Miles: 1300
	If you scrape the bubbles off do you see primer or bare metal? Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	April 14th 2008 at 8:38 PM  [ Modified April 14th 2008 at 8:38 PM ] Post #24
	arcticcatmatt Spleen Splitter arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home! Updated Yesterday at 12:16 PM 14005 Posts Group: Moderators Member Since: November 25th 2001 Location: Berkshire, NY, USA Current Sled: 96/97 ZRT 600 2008-2009 Miles: 450
	^Primer. Some have done this and been successful. I was unsuccessful the second time around (bubbles). Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	April 14th 2008 at 11:45 PM Post #25
	Ultra680 Senior Member 2235 Posts Group: Members Member Since: June 5th 2004 Location: Anywhere, Everywhere, USA Current Sled: 2000 XCR 800 2008-2009 Miles: 1300
	I'd contact them again and ask them to reimburse you for all of the paint at the very least. The paint lifted off the primer as the primer cured and released gases. Possible moisture? I've never used primer on pipes so I'm thinking out loud. Your first painting showing rust again was most likely due to not getting all the rust off before repainting. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit