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how hard is it to pull the primary off a 98 indy 500
started by Polarisleds83
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November 30th 2007 at 3:29 PM
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Polarisleds83
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figured i would ask while at work before i get home, do i need a special clutch puller?
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November 30th 2007 at 3:30 PM
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November 30th 2007 at 5:02 PM
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Polarisleds83
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November 30th 2007 at 5:23 PM
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November 30th 2007 at 5:30 PM
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rxlmod
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I have pulled clutches using a bolt that fits the threads inside the clutch (3/4-16 i think) and a 3/8 drive extension with a shallow socket against the crank. make sure u have a socket against the crankshaft or the extension with ruin the threads in the crank
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November 30th 2007 at 5:33 PM
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BC_Dan
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Snowmobile primary clutches are held on by friction. In order to remove the clutch, you have to have the correct puller for the type of clutch/sled. There are differences between models, so it's important you get the one specific to your clutch/sled.
Once you get the correct puller, the easiest way I have found to remove the clutch is to put the sled on it's side, remove the bolt holding the clutch, fill the hole with water, wrap a bunch of teflon on the puller (it threads into the outer clutch sheave) and then tighten the puller. The mechanical action of turning the puller puts hydraulic force on the water. Water does not compress worth a darn, so all the force goes outward, helping push the clutch right off the crankshaft.
I read on here about all sorts of beating and pounding and (i'm betting) swearing, but this is so easy, everyone should try it. It's finess over brute strength, and makes pulling that clutch EASY!
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November 30th 2007 at 5:41 PM
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rxlmod
it should be f7mod
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good idea but doesn't the water leak though even with the tape there a lot of pressure on strait threads
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November 30th 2007 at 6:04 PM
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polaris440sport
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What I do is put a bit of grease on the tip of the puller and tighten it up and the clutch pops right off every time.
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November 30th 2007 at 6:26 PM
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PolarisXLTmod
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make sure u buy a good quality clutch puller dont buy acheap one if u do buy one. ive seen them break off inside the crank and then its a bi%^ch to get outt. just my 2 cents
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November 30th 2007 at 6:32 PM
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Boss302man
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Quote originally posted by PolarisXLTmod
make sure u buy a good quality clutch puller dont buy acheap one if u do buy one. ive seen them break off inside the crank and then its a bi%^ch to get outt. just my 2 cents
It doesnt really matter what brand it is. Once you use them enough they break.
HOWEVER. The fugi 500 pullers are very beefy with pretty much no shaft reduction. Never have i seen one of that type break. Liberty style pullers are a whole different animal though.
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Anyone can go out and carve around but its the in the woods going uphill, on one ski zigzagin with a leg up in the air givin it all the yank you got just so you can clear the tree beside you knowing your only chance is to stay balls out that parts the men from the groomer chasers.
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December 1st 2007 at 12:05 AM
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BC_Dan
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You have to wrap a few rounds of teflon, maybe even 3 or 4 to make a good seal. Since I learned about this tip, I have not used anything other than a 1/2" drive ratchet with no cheater to remove any clutches I have tried. The seal is the key, as you turn the puller, the puller moves into the water, causing great hydraulic force. It does not take much turning before it pops right off.
You can do the same thing with grease and not tip the sled, but it is a lot more messy. Works as well, though. I like less mess ;)
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December 1st 2007 at 8:00 PM
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Polarisleds83
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so where can i get a puller?
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December 1st 2007 at 8:11 PM
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92rxl
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Usually at your dealer, or through the catalogs like dennis kirk.
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December 2nd 2007 at 3:39 AM
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nightrainjoe
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Okay, some very good options on pulling the clutch. Now, what is the best way for installing it? Doesn't the clutch have to go on a certain distance? And does the bolt have to be torqued as well?
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December 2nd 2007 at 10:59 AM
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BC_Dan
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The primary clutch goes on the crankshaft, which is a tapered shaft. It will only go so far and then stops. Torque the bolt to manufacturer's recommendations and you should be good to go. It's not a bad idea to re-torque after running for a while. I would torque it to 45-50 ft. lbs.
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December 2nd 2007 at 2:39 PM
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Polarisleds83
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December 2nd 2007 at 3:24 PM
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Indy_500_Classic
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Doesn't matter what method you use. If the clutch hasn't been removed since it was new, or in a couple of years, it ain't coming off easy. I've been there, done that. Clutch puller, oxy torch on the shaft, hitting away from the motor on the clutch. Eventually mine popped off, but it was an SOB to get it done.-
A slight film of never-seize would work, correct?
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December 2nd 2007 at 3:32 PM
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BC_Dan
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You do not want to put never-seize on the crankshaft end. It is supposed to be a friction hold, the bolt that holds the clutch does little to keep the clutch from spinning. Clean and dry on both clutch and crank end.
Try the water trick. I have taken off clutches that were on for 10 years and never been removed, they came off EASY. Try it once, you will wonder why you had to beat on that crankshaft end so many times before!
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December 2nd 2007 at 3:50 PM
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Polarisleds83
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so know one can tell my if this is the proper primary puller for a 98 indy 500? http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_ca...Id=&mmyId=
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December 2nd 2007 at 3:57 PM
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Boss302man
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I usually just runn the puller in with the impact gun and they pop. Every once in a while we get a stuck one that stalls the impact so i just leave it there under pressure. Had one sit for a day under pressure and then it just all of the sudden cut loose and hit the belly pan startlin the heck outa me.
The wat sounds like a good idea to put less abuse on the puller. I'll remember that.
2001.5 700 XC/SP
1988 Indy 400
I like engines n stuff
Anyone can go out and carve around but its the in the woods going uphill, on one ski zigzagin with a leg up in the air givin it all the yank you got just so you can clear the tree beside you knowing your only chance is to stay balls out that parts the men from the groomer chasers.
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