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boom, uh oh, boom, weeee rain
- NY SF ride ride report
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February 19th 2008 at 11:47 AM
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mdmaniac
Go Big or Go Home
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HaHaHa funny matt funny...You gonna man up and come to togg sunday? I have a triple piped XLT hungry for some kitty cat 
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February 19th 2008 at 12:05 PM
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arcticcatmatt
Spleen Splitter
arcticcatmatt leaving after work for 3 days of shotgun season back home!
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^ Oh come on. You already got to see it.. the REAR of it  . Want me to post a picture of the front of it so you know what it looks like?
I am ordering a new primary spring today from high performace engineering. I dont' even know if I would be ready by saturday. I don't think so, I have been up there 2 weekends in a row now, not cheap. Besides, I don't want to put my stock can back in to run the "stock" class. Would be fun to tear ass up that hill however!
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February 19th 2008 at 12:37 PM
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Xx08BRAAAPPP22xX
Loving the pro-x!!!
Xx08BRAAAPPP22xX nights are getting nice and cold but now it's got to stay like that through out the whole day on into December!
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lmao! yea matt thats safe to drive a truck out there on the water lol.
Polaris Pro-X=Sledgehammer, and every bit as tough as one!
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"There might be a foot of ice but there is 400ft of water, let me take my helmet off so I can swim." -ACM
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February 19th 2008 at 12:56 PM
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FireCat59
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12 inches, probably could have. haha, brenden did you get a track yet???
"Who cares about triples, I could hit myself in the face with a frying pan and feel just as good as riding 10 miles on xtra 10." hahaha
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February 19th 2008 at 1:11 PM
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artiksno340
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Quote originally posted by arcticcatmatt
^ oh you didn't need backing up TJ, I was just curious how you knew there was 12 inches.
Hell MDmaniac, we didn't have to tow you.. I guess you should have had your dad take the truck and trailer right out there to get you
I was thinking the same thing on Sunday, but I figured Brendan wouldn't want to risk putting his truck to the bottom of the reservoir 
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February 19th 2008 at 1:28 PM
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indy440
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Quote originally posted by artiksno340
It was a heck of a trip for me and my friend Matt. By the way, it was his first ever time sledding in NY and he did an absolute awesome job all weekend. Friday night we traveled up towards Albany (220 miles) to do a full rebuild to the ski doo motor til 3 in the morning Saturday.
How about a shameless plug for INDY440 for staying up all crazy hours of the night and doing that professional quality crank job and full engine assembly, all for just a few bottles of some cheap PA beer...
Also, as far as the ice goes. When you see slush ontop of the ice, its normally because the ice has developed a crack, maybe from the weight of the snow or from the water level changing or just from the ice heaving (which it does on large bodies of water). Its like a hairline crack that water can come up through, mixing with snow and causing the slush. Its totally safe to ride through, stop on, pee in, etc...
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February 19th 2008 at 1:34 PM
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artiksno340
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Quote originally posted by indy440
How about a shameless plug for INDY440 for staying up all crazy hours of the night and doing that professional quality crank job and full engine assembly, all for just a few bottles of some cheap PA beer...
Also, as far as the ice goes. When you see slush ontop of the ice, its normally because the ice has developed a crack, maybe from the weight of the snow or from the water level changing or just from the ice heaving (which it does on large bodies of water). Its like a hairline crack that water can come up through, mixing with snow and causing the slush. Its totally safe to ride through, stop on, pee in, etc...
This man knows what he's doing when it comes to rebuilding 2 strokes. You all saw how good that Renegade ran all Sunday. Only for a couple beers? A half a case of Lionshead is worth at least 2 full rebuilds. haha
I don't know if I want to listen to INDY about the ice. He's taken me over numerous ponds with an inch or less of ice on them But then again, we do both love some open water 
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February 19th 2008 at 1:43 PM
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indy440
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yeah, but what did I say about that: "its probably only an inch think here and its wide open on the other end, just go fast you'll be fine" Besides, Im always the first one out, right?.
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February 19th 2008 at 2:35 PM
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polarissledneck28
I hate good weather
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haha i think there should of been more payment for a quality crank job. I saw the video on Tjs camera with a hammer. that renegade did run like a beast sunday. now that i rode on the resiovor, i wanna get back out on a lake! what tomes does the racing start at tog on sunday?
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February 19th 2008 at 2:58 PM
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indy440
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That video was funny... haha... I put that end bearing on a little too far and didnt have the right puller to get it off so we had to improvise. That crank is ready for many more years of abuse now.
Normally I'd charge 200-300 dollars, depending on the motor and how good of a friend, to do an entire rebuild (top and bottom), plus parts. This is the second complete rebuild with crank bearings I've done for TJ... all for a few cases of Lions head...
haha
EDIT: Make that 3 motors, I forgot about the XLT (indy 500, XLT, and the renegade).
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February 19th 2008 at 3:20 PM
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sledheadskidoo
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racing starts around 5 o clock pm matt at togg on sunday www.skitog.com and go to the snowmobile section for the information.
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February 19th 2008 at 3:24 PM
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FireCat59
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Yea, Im am going to go, maybe not to race but to watch. I'm thinking about racing though. Just ordered an Ultimax XS belt and the slp hot elimination kit so maybe...
"Who cares about triples, I could hit myself in the face with a frying pan and feel just as good as riding 10 miles on xtra 10." hahaha
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February 19th 2008 at 3:58 PM
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polarissledneck28
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that lions head must be pretty much liquid gold. he told me he was gonna bring me some, still haven't tried it yet. what would tj do with out ya? haha
to bad there is not enough snow to ride to the hill climbs. :(
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February 19th 2008 at 4:05 PM
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FireCat59
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3 inches here..
"Who cares about triples, I could hit myself in the face with a frying pan and feel just as good as riding 10 miles on xtra 10." hahaha
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February 19th 2008 at 4:29 PM
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ny_driver
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 So...... no one wants to fess up to accusing me of causing ultraspx to go in the ditch, or apologize for falsely accusing me of being involved.  Let's just talk about the ice and ignore the fact that ny_driver was falsely accused of causing a wreck that he was nowhere near, with pictures to show the scene and a caption to make me look stupid. 
You guys are real cool. Thanks...and I sent ACM the videos so you all could see.
Ride until you are broke and sore....
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February 19th 2008 at 4:46 PM
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artiksno340
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Quote originally posted by indy440
yeah, but what did I say about that: "its probably only an inch think here and its wide open on the other end, just go fast you'll be fine" Besides, Im always the first one out, right?.
Hahah I prefer the bodies of water with less ice. It's probably good we do most of our watercrossing when it's summer 
I didn't even think about that being the 3rd rebuild. That won't be happening anymore. I think I've finally got the confidence to tackle a full rebuild with a little over the phone help.
And yes Matt, Lionshead is liquid gold. Here's a picture of a bottle for those of you who have never seen it. You will not get a better beer than this at a price of $12 with tax for 24 bottles. I will bring some next time Boltzy, I promise haha
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February 19th 2008 at 4:58 PM
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FireCat59
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Quote originally posted by ny_driver
So...... no one wants to fess up to accusing me of causing ultraspx to go in the ditch, or apologize for falsely accusing me of being involved. Let's just talk about the ice and ignore the fact that ny_driver was falsely accused of causing a wreck that he was nowhere near, with pictures to show the scene and a caption to make me look stupid.
You guys are real cool. Thanks...and I sent ACM the videos so you all could see.
Was not there, ultraspx hasnt been on yet. I am waiting to hear his side of the story. Also, it wasn't just him that yelled at you so I heard. The guy on the dragon?? Did he yell at you or something???
"Who cares about triples, I could hit myself in the face with a frying pan and feel just as good as riding 10 miles on xtra 10." hahaha
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February 19th 2008 at 5:41 PM
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EMTP579
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That climb looks pretty interesting - I have never seen anything like that before.
Ride safe and sober! Make every ride a round trip.
Upstate NY guys - join a fun local board - Twin Teir Sleddin': www.twintiersleddin.proboards76.com
NY GIANTS - 2008 Super Bowl Champions!
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February 19th 2008 at 6:02 PM
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mdmaniac
Go Big or Go Home
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Matt, it's by syracuse, 1/2 the time!! and if you spanked them 700s then run the mod class, It's all good in the end and worth it to have some fun. Just line up against another 600 with a can!
Firekitty, you shoulda came to me before ordering anything SLP, remember who has dealer pricing?????? tsk tsk to you for paying retail!
I think i have an extra spot on the trailer next to tank if i have any takers??? Track will be here tomorrow morning hopefully get it in tomorrow night/thursday and ride saturday if im lucky. Supposed to be 12-18+ in redfield tonight?
NY_Driver, Wasn't there so no comments. I prefer the south side of the hill 
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February 19th 2008 at 6:04 PM
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ny_driver
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Quote originally posted by FireCat59 Quote originally posted by ny_driver So...... no one wants to fess up to accusing me of causing ultraspx to go in the ditch, or apologize for falsely accusing me of being involved. Let's just talk about the ice and ignore the fact that ny_driver was falsely accused of causing a wreck that he was nowhere near, with pictures to show the scene and a caption to make me look stupid. You guys are real cool. Thanks...and I sent ACM the videos so you all could see. Was not there, ultraspx hasnt been on yet. I am waiting to hear his side of the story. Also, it wasn't just him that yelled at you so I heard. The guy on the dragon?? Did he yell at you or something??? It's not a question of who may have yelled at me, because I don't really care. No one came up to me and asked me to take it easy or stop scaring them or anything. The topic is the fact that I was nowhere near ultraspx when he crashed. And I am pissed off about the way Matt reported it. That's all. In post #8 he says he was told by someone that I was the cause of the accident......then a bit later he says that he witnessed the whole thing. I guarantee no-one else is going to say they saw me cause the accident, and I'm sure ultraspx is not going to say that either.
Ride until you are broke and sore....
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FireCat59
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Quote originally posted by mdmaniac
Matt, it's by syracuse, 1/2 the time!! and if you spanked them 700s then run the mod class, It's all good in the end and worth it to have some fun. Just line up against another 600 with a can!
Firekitty, you shoulda came to me before ordering anything SLP, remember who has dealer pricing?????? tsk tsk to you for paying retail!
I think i have an extra spot on the trailer next to tank if i have any takers??? Track will be here tomorrow morning hopefully get it in tomorrow night/thursday and ride saturday if im lucky. Supposed to be 12-18+ in redfield tonight?
NY_Driver, Wasn't there so no comments. I prefer the south side of the hill
Want any company when you put that track on? I'll be happy to come over, I wanna see what that track looks like!
DAM, I totally forgot about the slp products, oh well. Too late now, i'll be getting more stuff come summer time, pipe,can,studs, just some little stuff.lol
"Who cares about triples, I could hit myself in the face with a frying pan and feel just as good as riding 10 miles on xtra 10." hahaha
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February 19th 2008 at 6:23 PM
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Quote originally posted by ny_driver
Quote originally posted by FireCat59
Quote originally posted by ny_driver
So...... no one wants to fess up to accusing me of causing ultraspx to go in the ditch, or apologize for falsely accusing me of being involved. Let's just talk about the ice and ignore the fact that ny_driver was falsely accused of causing a wreck that he was nowhere near, with pictures to show the scene and a caption to make me look stupid.
You guys are real cool. Thanks...and I sent ACM the videos so you all could see.
Was not there, ultraspx hasnt been on yet. I am waiting to hear his side of the story. Also, it wasn't just him that yelled at you so I heard. The guy on the dragon?? Did he yell at you or something???
It's not a question of who may have yelled at me, because I don't really care. No one came up to me and asked me to take it easy or stop scaring them or anything.
The topic is the fact that I was nowhere near ultraspx when he crashed. And I am pissed off about the way Matt reported it. That's all. In post #8 he says he was told by someone that I was the cause of the accident......then a bit later he says that he witnessed the whole thing. I guarantee no-one else is going to say they saw me cause the accident, and I'm sure ultraspx is not going to say that either.
I keep coming back to this thread to see pics of the ride and read about it. Can you start a new topic in the "Who Cares" section with all this crap about who crashed and who's crying now. Your PO'd because you got what you think was "outed"....and you keep bitchin yourself. As for the drinking, a high percentage of riders have done it......but one needs to prepare themselves for the deluge afterward. Personally, I would have said something at the bar or restaurant....then gave you more grief on the site.
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ny_driver
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Quote originally posted by XCSPDUDE Quote originally posted by ny_driver Quote originally posted by FireCat59 Quote originally posted by ny_driver So...... no one wants to fess up to accusing me of causing ultraspx to go in the ditch, or apologize for falsely accusing me of being involved. Let's just talk about the ice and ignore the fact that ny_driver was falsely accused of causing a wreck that he was nowhere near, with pictures to show the scene and a caption to make me look stupid. You guys are real cool. Thanks...and I sent ACM the videos so you all could see. Was not there, ultraspx hasnt been on yet. I am waiting to hear his side of the story. Also, it wasn't just him that yelled at you so I heard. The guy on the dragon?? Did he yell at you or something??? It's not a question of who may have yelled at me, because I don't really care. No one came up to me and asked me to take it easy or stop scaring them or anything. The topic is the fact that I was nowhere near ultraspx when he crashed. And I am pissed off about the way Matt reported it. That's all. In post #8 he says he was told by someone that I was the cause of the accident......then a bit later he says that he witnessed the whole thing. I guarantee no-one else is going to say they saw me cause the accident, and I'm sure ultraspx is not going to say that either. I keep coming back to this thread to see pics of the ride and read about it. Can you start a new topic in the "Who Cares" section with all this crap about who crashed and who's crying now. Your PO'd because you got what you think was "outed"....and you keep bitchin yourself. As for the drinking, a high percentage of riders have done it......but one needs to prepare themselves for the deluge afterward. Personally, I would have said something at the bar or restaurant....then gave you more grief on the site. I am only mad that I was falsely accused of causing someone to crash. I thought I made that quite clear.  you can obviously read
Ride until you are broke and sore....
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XCSPDUDE
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Quote originally posted by ny_driver
Quote originally posted by XCSPDUDE
Quote originally posted by ny_driver
Quote originally posted by FireCat59
Quote originally posted by ny_driver
So...... no one wants to fess up to accusing me of causing ultraspx to go in the ditch, or apologize for falsely accusing me of being involved. Let's just talk about the ice and ignore the fact that ny_driver was falsely accused of causing a wreck that he was nowhere near, with pictures to show the scene and a caption to make me look stupid.
You guys are real cool. Thanks...and I sent ACM the videos so you all could see.
Was not there, ultraspx hasnt been on yet. I am waiting to hear his side of the story. Also, it wasn't just him that yelled at you so I heard. The guy on the dragon?? Did he yell at you or something???
It's not a question of who may have yelled at me, because I don't really care. No one came up to me and asked me to take it easy or stop scaring them or anything.
The topic is the fact that I was nowhere near ultraspx when he crashed. And I am pissed off about the way Matt reported it. That's all. In post #8 he says he was told by someone that I was the cause of the accident......then a bit later he says that he witnessed the whole thing. I guarantee no-one else is going to say they saw me cause the accident, and I'm sure ultraspx is not going to say that either.
I keep coming back to this thread to see pics of the ride and read about it. Can you start a new topic in the "Who Cares" section with all this crap about who crashed and who's crying now. Your PO'd because you got what you think was "outed"....and you keep bitchin yourself. As for the drinking, a high percentage of riders have done it......but one needs to prepare themselves for the deluge afterward. Personally, I would have said something at the bar or restaurant....then gave you more grief on the site.
I am only mad that I was falsely accused of causing someone to crash. I thought I made that quite clear. you can obviously read
I can read just fine...I have a hard time reading between your tears......
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ny_driver
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Quote originally posted by XCSPDUDE
Quote originally posted by ny_driver
Quote originally posted by XCSPDUDE
Quote originally posted by ny_driver
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Quote originally posted by ny_driver
So...... no one wants to fess up to accusing me of causing ultraspx to go in the ditch, or apologize for falsely accusing me of being involved. Let's just talk about the ice and ignore the fact that ny_driver was falsely accused of causing a wreck that he was nowhere near, with pictures to show the scene and a caption to make me look stupid.
You guys are real cool. Thanks...and I sent ACM the videos so you all could see.
Was not there, ultraspx hasnt been on yet. I am waiting to hear his side of the story. Also, it wasn't just him that yelled at you so I heard. The guy on the dragon?? Did he yell at you or something???
It's not a question of who may have yelled at me, because I don't really care. No one came up to me and asked me to take it easy or stop scaring them or anything.
The topic is the fact that I was nowhere near ultraspx when he crashed. And I am pissed off about the way Matt reported it. That's all. In post #8 he says he was told by someone that I was the cause of the accident......then a bit later he says that he witnessed the whole thing. I guarantee no-one else is going to say they saw me cause the accident, and I'm sure ultraspx is not going to say that either.
I keep coming back to this thread to see pics of the ride and read about it. Can you start a new topic in the "Who Cares" section with all this crap about who crashed and who's crying now. Your PO'd because you got what you think was "outed"....and you keep bitchin yourself. As for the drinking, a high percentage of riders have done it......but one needs to prepare themselves for the deluge afterward. Personally, I would have said something at the bar or restaurant....then gave you more grief on the site.
I am only mad that I was falsely accused of causing someone to crash. I thought I made that quite clear. you can obviously read
I can read just fine...I have a hard time reading between your tears......
what I meant to say was mind your business....you weren't there. How do you like that?
Ride until you are broke and sore....
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