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Riding on closed trails
- Do you respect the landowners?
started by sgemt
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March 23rd 2008 at 5:40 PM
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sgemt
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I just read, and replied to a thread that really "erks" me. One of our fellow SF riders was out this weekend riding on closed trails in IL. It bothers me because he could very well be one of those whining next year when the landowner won't allow trails on his land. Is it just me here, or is this clown making ALL of us look bad?? This year was awesome, don't spoil it for next year!!!!!!!! 
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March 23rd 2008 at 7:15 PM
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slowmach1
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actually the trails were opened for this last snow we had on friday. only open on friday night and then closed again by saturday morning. the club presidents opened them. And before you go saying that the season was over for us, I called The McHenry County trail report to find out when i got home from work Friday night.
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March 23rd 2008 at 8:02 PM
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sgemt
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I realize that the trails may have opened for a day, but this guy was out riding late Saturday. I just don't want any grief between land owners and sledders. I'd like to know that I can ride south into IL and enjoy the trails there also. We had a great year with more than ample opportunity to ride, I just think it's finally over with for the year. The ground is softening up on top and the frost is quickly coming out, leaving lots of opportunity for damage. Just call it a year guys, and hope for the best for next season.
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March 23rd 2008 at 9:32 PM
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arcticcatmatt
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rottman583 is the person in question I see.. Link to this http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/forum/...ost=878601Quote originally posted by rottmann583 well im riding on them, whether its legal or not.have fun sitting at home.
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March 23rd 2008 at 9:37 PM
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FireCat59
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Real smart...have some common sense and know if the trails are ridable. I will not ride on them if the snow isn't at least 4-8 inches base. Usually you can tell by all the ribbons/fences and signs that are posted up. Or just by not seeing any fresh tracks/ MUD / Grass / or anybody else out. Just going to tear up everything and screw everybody else over.
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March 23rd 2008 at 9:58 PM
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Jsledder
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Quote originally posted by arcticcatmatt
rottman583 is the person in question I see..
Link to this
http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/forum/...ost=878601
Quote originally posted by rottmann583
well im riding on them, whether its legal or not.have fun sitting at home.
Yep, you can thank people like that when we are all sitting at home...... Good attitude!!
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March 23rd 2008 at 10:04 PM
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killerbee52j
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Ive done it a few times because where i live theres a junction about amile and a half from my house.Alot of times they will close the trail at the juction where i live on down but the trails are open except my little area.But its a farmers fild that i know and one house.The rest is road.
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March 24th 2008 at 12:20 AM
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DaveMN
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I understand that it is different here versus IL or NY. The trails close April 1st regardless if there is snow or not. The club does the trail cleanup and shelter/bridge repairs on the first weekend of april. at the same time we close and lock gates and they will not open until December 1st of next winter.
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March 24th 2008 at 4:56 AM
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Actually, he could be charged with "trespass" for riding on a closed trail too.
As a trail boss in my club, I would make it my mission in life to track down that idiot and make sure that he was charged. It has taken me 5 years to get a twenty mile section of trail setup and open for use and I will be damned if I will allow some idiot to the cause any closure of any of it.
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March 24th 2008 at 11:03 AM
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MCHENRYMAFIA
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well the trails through mchenry county were down to mud by mid saturday and with the trails running over hay and winter wheat fields that just got totally distroyed you can all thank rottman583 when a large section of trail gets closed. My family farms and snowmobiles but when you have money invested in winter crops that get destroyed by snowmobilers that don't care I wouldn't be suprised if the trails get closed and with cocky attitudes like that I may even hope they get closed
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March 24th 2008 at 12:23 PM
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trailviolator
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Quote originally posted by arcticcatmatt
rottman583 is the person in question I see..
Link to this
http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/forum/...ost=878601
Quote originally posted by rottmann583
well im riding on them, whether its legal or not.have fun sitting at home.
let's just be lucky he's not around here.....it's to bad that many trails close becouse of poeple of that nature.
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March 24th 2008 at 12:25 PM
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FireCat59
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Got that right. Pretty ironic coming from a person who has a S/N "trail violator".lol J/P
"Who cares about triples, I could hit myself in the face with a frying pan and feel just as good as riding 10 miles on xtra 10." hahaha
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March 24th 2008 at 12:34 PM
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Bear1
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I was going to take a short ride on saturday and was glad to see some tracks where I pick up the trail after about 4 miles of ditchbangin'. There was plenty of snow 12"to 14" plus drifting, but when I saw the trail sign that said "Trail is closed, unless there is 6" of snow and the Temperature is below 32 degrees" Well it was closer to 38 so I headed back home and played around in the ditches and my yard for an hour or so (I've got 3 acres) I put 22 miles on the sled and still had some fun. Even though there was plenty of snow I didn't want to cause any problems by being on the trails when I shouldn't. It was nice to get in one last ride.
There are ways to have fun and still obey the rules 
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And then declare war on somebody.
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March 24th 2008 at 1:03 PM
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trailviolator
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[quote=originally posted by FireCat59]
Got that right. Pretty ironic coming from a person who has a S/N "trail violator".lol J/P
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i picked that name couse it was different from everybody.but you do have a good point!!!LOL
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March 24th 2008 at 4:12 PM
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sgemt
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I posted this same basic thread on another snow site I frequent daily and there is similar reaction from all of those members there too. So, Rottmann583, if you're reading these replies, you can see you're in the minority here!! Next time, do us all a favor and simply stay home. Man up and show a little respect to everyone involved in the sport. INCLUDING/ESPECIALLY the landowners.
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March 24th 2008 at 4:55 PM
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xcrxlt136
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well, just came threw the trail area, and found a kid on a 4 wheeler tearing it up in the field, I waited for him near the road, and he seen me and beat feet. I have an idea where he lives, and just contacted the land owner. Funny thing about it is,the kid on the 4 wheelers father, closed the section of trail near his property, because he doesnt want anyone on "HIS LAND", but its fine for HIS kids to tear up the endings of our season. This is the same guy, that bought a right of way, just so he could close the trail....His land is completely tore up, from 4 wheelers, and his kids use the snowmobile trail to get gas for their 4 wheeler. 2 words, SPIKE STRIPS
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March 24th 2008 at 5:09 PM
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sgemt
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What the h#** is the matter with people these days??? I just don't get it. Does the kid's father know he's out there tearing around?
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March 24th 2008 at 5:17 PM
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MJay
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Im lucky, the only times trails close here is when the snow melts. Having to deal with private landowners must be a real pain.
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March 24th 2008 at 5:42 PM
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firecatF5
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i don't ride them closed its ILLEGAL!
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March 24th 2008 at 5:47 PM
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Sledneck26
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Jackknobs like that is how people get killed, hurt, and shut down trails. Not to mention giving the rest of us a bad name.
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March 24th 2008 at 6:28 PM
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sgemt
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Jackknob....LMAO!!!... can I use that?
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March 24th 2008 at 6:34 PM
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Jerkyking
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Quote originally posted by FireCat59
Got that right. Pretty ironic coming from a person who has a S/N "trail violator".lol J/P
I think it seems fitting, He Violates the Trails, not Private land.
Plus 1
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March 24th 2008 at 6:38 PM
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trailviolator
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Quote originally posted by Jerkyking
Quote originally posted by FireCat59
Got that right. Pretty ironic coming from a person who has a S/N "trail violator".lol J/P
I think it seems fitting, He Violates the Trails, not Private land.
Plus 1
LOL.another good point!
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March 24th 2008 at 6:44 PM
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Quote originally posted by xcrxlt136
well, just came threw the trail area, and found a kid on a 4 wheeler tearing it up in the field, I waited for him near the road, and he seen me and beat feet. I have an idea where he lives, and just contacted the land owner. Funny thing about it is,the kid on the 4 wheelers father, closed the section of trail near his property, because he doesnt want anyone on "HIS LAND", but its fine for HIS kids to tear up the endings of our season. This is the same guy, that bought a right of way, just so he could close the trail....His land is completely tore up, from 4 wheelers, and his kids use the snowmobile trail to get gas for their 4 wheeler. 2 words, SPIKE STRIPS
I usually have a throw away camera in my jacket, to take pics of stuff while out riding. 
This might be another good reason to carry one.
Take pics of the Sled/atv that are doing Illegal things. Should be damn good proof when you talk to the: cop/neighbor/ landowner. Hopefully get a lic.#, nothing else have a good description of the person.
If we dont start taking care of this stuff, it will be gone.
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March 26th 2008 at 9:46 PM
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ski-dooer12
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Quote originally posted by DaveMN
I understand that it is different here versus IL or NY. The trails close April 1st regardless if there is snow or not. The club does the trail cleanup and shelter/bridge repairs on the first weekend of april. at the same time we close and lock gates and they will not open until December 1st of next winter.
Are u part of some club??? Cause I didn't know that and I live in the south metro area...
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