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2006 Fusion which is better - 600 HO vs 700 - Looking to get a new sled and wanted YOUR opinion and if it is a good deal? started by NothingSoundsLikeATriple
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Hello Everyone,

I am looking to purchase a new sled. I currently have a 96 XLT that looks stock on the outside but hangs with the 700's on the inside (he he) anyway, I love it, but getting worried about those long trips to the UP (Michigan) and if she will hold up much longer.

I found some left over NEW 2006 Fusion 600 HO's and 700's the price difference between the two is $200 and thought why not get the 700 for that small of a difference. I know the 700 has the Cleanfire technology and 600 doesn't which could lead to a problem modifying the 700 (so they say). Also, it is $5400 for the 700, is that a good deal(out the door is 6240, you know the taxes, freight and fees the dealer sticks on)?

I want your opinions and first hand expierence on these machines.. I know the 600 has 120hp and the 700 is 140hp but to me thats just raw #s. What has been your expierence out on the actual trail?

I've heard both are harder than average to steer, which could be bad on those long trips. I also heard that some of the 700's are going through belts every 200-300 miles, OUCH that could be costly!

Any first hand info. and thoughts would be great!


PS - I am a 115lbs and 5'4 woman, which shouldn't matter, but it does when they talk about "hard to steer".

Many thanks!



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September 1st 2008 at 11:56 AM
 
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I do not thiunk yoyu will like the 755. The 600 HO is alot better tuned than the 700. I had a fusion 700 and I loved it, when I first got it ate belts left and right. Couldn't keep one on it for over 300 miles. I had to put in an SLP air kit and an ultimax xs belt and it took care of that problem. 700's are pure torque, awesome acceleration and a great trail sled. Shakes pretty good but only at idle. The 600 will basically need nothing, take it on the trail and just ride where the 700 you need to pay more attention to it. The 700 has alot more power but if you don't want to dump money into a brand new sled then go with the 600. Plenty fast I think, very snappy and has alot of top end. My friend in school has a stock 600 HO and we raced in a long field, he was with me for 100 yards and then the 700 just pulled away. I'm 230 lbs and he's 190 lbs. Make sure all the recalls are done before you buy one of these sleds. If you buy the 700 you'll need to dump about 500 into it to make it run flawless. Airbox, air kit, belt, and if you want different clutching. Clutching wasn't very good stock but it wasn't too bad I didn't think. 600 is basically flawless and alot lighter.



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September 1st 2008 at 12:20 PM
 
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You would need electric start for that 700 also, 600 is much easier to turn over and can get better fuel economy than the 700. The lighter weight is also a plus, you won't be as tired at the end of the day.

Proper clutching, mainly the secondary helix, is what needs to be changed out on the 700(755) and 900's to make them run properly. No more eating belts, etc. with going to the 719 helix.



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September 1st 2008 at 12:21 PM
 
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I bought a holdover last winter.
I went with the 600. havent had any problems really like the sled.

Yes they do steer hard at low speeds, I'm looking into getting new parts, so it will steer easier??

They take a little to get use to.

I paid $5175 plus tax.




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September 1st 2008 at 1:40 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by FireCat59

I do not thiunk yoyu will like the 755. The 600 HO is alot better tuned than the 700. I had a fusion 700 and I loved it, when I first got it ate belts left and right. Couldn't keep one on it for over 300 miles. I had to put in an SLP air kit and an ultimax xs belt and it took care of that problem. 700's are pure torque, awesome acceleration and a great trail sled. Shakes pretty good but only at idle. The 600 will basically need nothing, take it on the trail and just ride where the 700 you need to pay more attention to it. The 700 has alot more power but if you don't want to dump money into a brand new sled then go with the 600. Plenty fast I think, very snappy and has alot of top end. My friend in school has a stock 600 HO and we raced in a long field, he was with me for 100 yards and then the 700 just pulled away. I'm 230 lbs and he's 190 lbs. Make sure all the recalls are done before you buy one of these sleds. If you buy the 700 you'll need to dump about 500 into it to make it run flawless. Airbox, air kit, belt, and if you want different clutching. Clutching wasn't very good stock but it wasn't too bad I didn't think. 600 is basically flawless and alot lighter.



Firecat59, What do you mean pay more attention, can you explain? Also, did you take it to the dealer or call them on the belt issue, if so what did they say? Thanks! - Triple



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September 1st 2008 at 1:53 PM  [ Modified September 1st 2008 at 1:56 PM ]
 
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I owned a 06' 600 and loved it! As far as the steering goes it shouldn't be an issue. Put it this way, compared to what your riding now it's gonna steer like a Caddy. The sled was very reliable and has plenty of power. I may have to look twice if I see a holdover at Haydays for the right price.

GET THE 600!!!!!!!!

Firecat is right about the 700 too. Of all the fusions the 06' 600 is the one I can honestly say is bulletproof and ready to rip out of the box. I'm not trying to say the others are junk but we all know they had their issues.



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September 1st 2008 at 6:20 PM
 
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my dad has a 700 and we have never had a problem with it mechanicly never blown a belt still original after 8000 miles anything that ever went wrong otherwise was abuse or it was a dealer recall besides the sled being a really warm sled it needs some ventilation under the hood like the slp kit because they get very hot it actualy melted the console that goes infront of your knees other than that it has been an awsome sled



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September 1st 2008 at 6:41 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by polaris91

my dad has a 700 and we have never had a problem with it mechanicly never blown a belt still original after 8000 miles anything that ever went wrong otherwise was abuse or it was a dealer recall besides the sled being a really warm sled it needs some ventilation under the hood like the slp kit because they get very hot it actualy melted the console that goes infront of your knees other than that it has been an awsome sled
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September 1st 2008 at 7:48 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by NothingSoundsLikeATriple
Quote originally posted by FireCat59

I do not thiunk yoyu will like the 755. The 600 HO is alot better tuned than the 700. I had a fusion 700 and I loved it, when I first got it ate belts left and right. Couldn't keep one on it for over 300 miles. I had to put in an SLP air kit and an ultimax xs belt and it took care of that problem. 700's are pure torque, awesome acceleration and a great trail sled. Shakes pretty good but only at idle. The 600 will basically need nothing, take it on the trail and just ride where the 700 you need to pay more attention to it. The 700 has alot more power but if you don't want to dump money into a brand new sled then go with the 600. Plenty fast I think, very snappy and has alot of top end. My friend in school has a stock 600 HO and we raced in a long field, he was with me for 100 yards and then the 700 just pulled away. I'm 230 lbs and he's 190 lbs. Make sure all the recalls are done before you buy one of these sleds. If you buy the 700 you'll need to dump about 500 into it to make it run flawless. Airbox, air kit, belt, and if you want different clutching. Clutching wasn't very good stock but it wasn't too bad I didn't think. 600 is basically flawless and alot lighter.



Firecat59, What do you mean pay more attention, can you explain? Also, did you take it to the dealer or call them on the belt issue, if so what did they say? Thanks! - Triple


I had to really stay up on my sled. Let it warm up to 100 degrees before even touching the throttle or it may foul a plug. Cleanfire injection I thought was very tempormental. Had to do curtain things or else the sled wouldn't run right. 2 pulls and you had to pull hard, if it took 3 pulls then it fouled a plug. I liked it but it needed more attention than say a carbed 600. The 700 isn't really a pull and go sled. There may be something else that you will have to do, changed the oil return spring and put a heavier one on, belt dust collects on the oil pump cable and makes it stick. Mine had this problem and would bog, so I had to feather the throttle quite a bit to make sure it didn't foul. Just little things you have to be aware of. It's a good sled, and I recommend it but it's a bit heavier, harder to pull and not as good running as the 600 fusion. If you end up getting the 700, which I recommend getting just as much as the 600, make sure you get electric start.



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September 2nd 2008 at 8:19 AM
 
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It takes a whole lot more time and $$ to make the 700CFI run as compared to the 600. There is a ton more information out there for tuning the 600 as well. Why do you think the dealer has that 700 marked for only $200 more? It makes sense to get the bigger sled as per value for the buck, but that's only because he cant get rid of them!

I think you'll be happier with the 600.



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September 2nd 2008 at 11:30 AM
 
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well a friend of mine has a 06 fusion 600 and its not that fast. hes only had a little while and i dont think hes had any problems. but its not that fast i thaught i would have been faster but with my stock 650 and his, there dead even at +10 degrees celcius on about 1/8 mile strech but after that i would probly pull away.




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September 2nd 2008 at 4:48 PM  [ Modified September 2nd 2008 at 4:57 PM ]
 
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Quote originally posted by NothingSoundsLikeATriple

Hello Everyone,

I am looking to purchase a new sled. I currently have a 96 XLT that looks stock on the outside but hangs with the 700's on the inside (he he) anyway, I love it, but getting worried about those long trips to the UP (Michigan) and if she will hold up much longer.

I found some left over NEW 2006 Fusion 600 HO's and 700's the price difference between the two is $200 and thought why not get the 700 for that small of a difference. I know the 700 has the Cleanfire technology and 600 doesn't which could lead to a problem modifying the 700 (so they say). Also, it is $5400 for the 700, is that a good deal(out the door is 6240, you know the taxes, freight and fees the dealer sticks on)?

I want your opinions and first hand expierence on these machines.. I know the 600 has 120hp and the 700 is 140hp but to me thats just raw #s. What has been your expierence out on the actual trail?

I've heard both are harder than average to steer, which could be bad on those long trips. I also heard that some of the 700's are going through belts every 200-300 miles, OUCH that could be costly!

Any first hand info. and thoughts would be great!


PS - I am a 115lbs and 5'4 woman, which shouldn't matter, but it does when they talk about "hard to steer".

Many thanks!


After updates are complete. They both rock. The 700 is actualy a awsome top end machine and after it gets high flow air is awsome off the line also. If you buy a 700 the most important thing is making sure the torque stop is ajusted properly, They crack if not set right, lottttts of torque from the 755 mill. And the clutches are aligned correct from the start. lots of these machines were sold by lawnmower shops and the techs doing the set up were far from properly trained on the new tech. If your dealer knows how to set it up right from the start like mine does, It will rock. The 600HO is a little lighter and little less high tech. Both have tons of after market bolt on mods that make them B/A. The 700 upgrades that interfere with the computer performance come with reflash software to fix that. I'd say you'd be happy with either. Any and all belt issues are due to bad set up. Highflow air remedies hot clutch issues.Most mods do not require reflash. Steering is best fixed on both with SLY DOG POWDER HOUND skis but can be upgraded with duelly stud boy sharpers on stock skis quite exceptable.




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September 2nd 2008 at 5:30 PM  [ Modified September 2nd 2008 at 5:32 PM ]
 
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Quote originally posted by freedomrider
Quote originally posted by NothingSoundsLikeATriple

Hello Everyone,

I am looking to purchase a new sled. I currently have a 96 XLT that looks stock on the outside but hangs with the 700's on the inside (he he) anyway, I love it, but getting worried about those long trips to the UP (Michigan) and if she will hold up much longer.

I found some left over NEW 2006 Fusion 600 HO's and 700's the price difference between the two is $200 and thought why not get the 700 for that small of a difference. I know the 700 has the Cleanfire technology and 600 doesn't which could lead to a problem modifying the 700 (so they say). Also, it is $5400 for the 700, is that a good deal(out the door is 6240, you know the taxes, freight and fees the dealer sticks on)?

I want your opinions and first hand expierence on these machines.. I know the 600 has 120hp and the 700 is 140hp but to me thats just raw #s. What has been your expierence out on the actual trail?

I've heard both are harder than average to steer, which could be bad on those long trips. I also heard that some of the 700's are going through belts every 200-300 miles, OUCH that could be costly!

Any first hand info. and thoughts would be great!


PS - I am a 115lbs and 5'4 woman, which shouldn't matter, but it does when they talk about "hard to steer".

Many thanks!


After updates are complete. They both rock. The 700 is actualy a awsome top end machine and after it gets high flow air is awsome off the line also. If you buy a 700 the most important thing is making sure the torque stop is ajusted properly, They crack if not set right, lottttts of torque from the 755 mill. And the clutches are aligned correct from the start. lots of these machines were sold by lawnmower shops and the techs doing the set up were far from properly trained on the new tech. If your dealer knows how to set it up right from the start like mine does, It will rock. The 600HO is a little lighter and little less high tech. Both have tons of after market bolt on mods that make them B/A. The 700 upgrades that interfere with the computer performance come with reflash software to fix that. I'd say you'd be happy with either. Any and all belt issues are due to bad set up. Highflow air remedies hot clutch issues.Most mods do not require reflash. Steering is best fixed on both with SLY DOG POWDER HOUND skis but can be upgraded with duelly stud boy sharpers on stock skis quite exceptable.


I believe you have a MUCH better percentage of having a more reliable sled with the 600 H.O. Only thing I did to mine was downsize the main jets to 400's. I am over 300 lbs dressed and ran almost 12 mpg with mine. It ran over 90 and was very nimble on the trails comapred to my 06 900. (the 700's big brother)
You should be able to buy the 600 for under 5k new though. I sold mine with 2500 miles on it for $3900.00

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