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HORRIBLE ON GAS
- 2002 cross country 500
started by polarisorbust
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September 25th 2008 at 12:28 PM
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polarisorbust
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627 Posts 
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Member Since: December 21st 2005
Location: Morley, Michigan
Current Sled: 1998 XC 700
2008-2009 Miles: 1178 miles
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my buddies 500 cc is using literaly twice the fuel of my pol 700. what is wrong. it runs great, plugs look nice.
98 XC700 97.3 mph 1000 ft.
00 XC500SP 45th Anniversary Ed.
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September 25th 2008 at 12:46 PM
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MuscleD
It doesnt matter where you are in life, its who you have beside you.
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813 Posts
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Member Since: February 2nd 2008
Location: Mankato, Minnesota, USA
Current Sled: 1999 polaris xc 500
2008-2009 Miles: 25
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well when you guys ride together he needs to use more throttle to keep up most likly. your engine is naturaly more powerful so you need less throttle to get going. I have a 500 and my dad has a 700 and we have the same issue. he gets great gas milage. is your friends a 1999 xc 500 by chance?
fool
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September 25th 2008 at 12:49 PM
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Offshore24
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How does he drive it? WOT all the time? How does he check his plugs? Run it 1/2 throttle and hit kill switch with throttle still at 1/2. Check plugs. Run it WOT for a 1/4 mile hit kill switch holding throttle WOT till it stops, check plugs. If they are still cardboard then I can't help you. But I can't believe if he's eating gas that his plugs wouldn't be dark. You can also check piston wash by running test the same as I described and then pull plugs and look at top of piston. You'll need a light though. If the pistons are clean as a whistle, you're too rich. Should have a little wash around the intake side and a tille carbon on the rest. if it's all black it's rich. Quote originally posted by MuscleD
well when you guys ride together he needs to use more throttle to keep up most likly. your engine is naturaly more powerful so you need less throttle to get going. I have a 500 and my dad has a 700 and we have the same issue. he gets great gas milage. is your friends a 1999 xc 500 by chance?
2002 x-country according to the topic
2005 Ski-Doo MXZ Renegade 600 SDI
Save your breath, you'll need it to blow up your date.
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September 25th 2008 at 12:53 PM
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Quinlan
Department of Corrections
Quinlan is a little disappointed that he received HMK Highmark 4 boots instead of the Highmark Pros as he had anticipated...
Updated Friday at 6:19 PM
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9723 Posts
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Member Since: December 8th 2003
Location: Fargo, ND, USA
Current Sled: 06 SP 440/700, 98 ZR 600
2008-2009 Miles: 365
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Any idea how many miles he's getting on a tank? Alot of ZR's are notorious for piss poor mileage.
2006 Arctic Cat SnoPro 440/700 EFI
1998 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI Custom
1996 Ski-Doo FormulaIII 600
A mountain lion roaming the prairie found a bull, killed it and ate the entire bull. With a heavy belly, unable to walk, the lion laid in the tall grass moaning and roaring. Soon a hunter, attracted by the roaring, shot and killed the lion.
Moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut!
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September 25th 2008 at 1:02 PM
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MuscleD
It doesnt matter where you are in life, its who you have beside you.
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813 Posts
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Member Since: February 2nd 2008
Location: Mankato, Minnesota, USA
Current Sled: 1999 polaris xc 500
2008-2009 Miles: 25
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Quote originally posted by Offshore24
How does he drive it? WOT all the time? How does he check his plugs? Run it 1/2 throttle and hit kill switch with throttle still at 1/2. Check plugs. Run it WOT for a 1/4 mile hit kill switch holding throttle WOT till it stops, check plugs. If they are still cardboard then I can't help you. But I can't believe if he's eating gas that his plugs wouldn't be dark. You can also check piston wash by running test the same as I described and then pull plugs and look at top of piston. You'll need a light though. If the pistons are clean as a whistle, you're too rich. Should have a little wash around the intake side and a tille carbon on the rest. if it's all black it's rich.
Quote originally posted by MuscleD
well when you guys ride together he needs to use more throttle to keep up most likly. your engine is naturaly more powerful so you need less throttle to get going. I have a 500 and my dad has a 700 and we have the same issue. he gets great gas milage. is your friends a 1999 xc 500 by chance?
2002 x-country according to the topic
oh haha im dumb.
how does he ride? cuz if he opens it up alot then that could be part of it.
fool
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September 25th 2008 at 3:05 PM
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firecatF5
SEARCHER and DESTROYER of feilds of white!
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Current Sled: 2003 F5
2008-2009 Miles: 908
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Quote originally posted by MuscleD
Quote originally posted by Offshore24
How does he drive it? WOT all the time? How does he check his plugs? Run it 1/2 throttle and hit kill switch with throttle still at 1/2. Check plugs. Run it WOT for a 1/4 mile hit kill switch holding throttle WOT till it stops, check plugs. If they are still cardboard then I can't help you. But I can't believe if he's eating gas that his plugs wouldn't be dark. You can also check piston wash by running test the same as I described and then pull plugs and look at top of piston. You'll need a light though. If the pistons are clean as a whistle, you're too rich. Should have a little wash around the intake side and a tille carbon on the rest. if it's all black it's rich.
Quote originally posted by MuscleD
well when you guys ride together he needs to use more throttle to keep up most likly. your engine is naturaly more powerful so you need less throttle to get going. I have a 500 and my dad has a 700 and we have the same issue. he gets great gas milage. is your friends a 1999 xc 500 by chance?
2002 x-country according to the topic
oh haha im dumb.
how does he ride? cuz if he opens it up alot then that could be part of it.
it all depends how he rides,
WOT=bad gas mileage
Slow=Good gas mileage
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September 25th 2008 at 3:59 PM
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polarisorbust
Eat my roost !!!!
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627 Posts
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Location: Morley, Michigan
Current Sled: 1998 XC 700
2008-2009 Miles: 1178 miles
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about 70-80 mile to a tank, Im getting about 120-130.
Quote originally posted by Quinlan
Any idea how many miles he's getting on a tank? Alot of ZR's are notorious for piss poor mileage.
we ride fairly hard, yet try to be easy. 60-80 mph ave.
Quote originally posted by MuscleD
Quote originally posted by Offshore24
How does he drive it? WOT all the time? How does he check his plugs? Run it 1/2 throttle and hit kill switch with throttle still at 1/2. Check plugs. Run it WOT for a 1/4 mile hit kill switch holding throttle WOT till it stops, check plugs. If they are still cardboard then I can't help you. But I can't believe if he's eating gas that his plugs wouldn't be dark. You can also check piston wash by running test the same as I described and then pull plugs and look at top of piston. You'll need a light though. If the pistons are clean as a whistle, you're too rich. Should have a little wash around the intake side and a tille carbon on the rest. if it's all black it's rich.
Quote originally posted by MuscleD
well when you guys ride together he needs to use more throttle to keep up most likly. your engine is naturaly more powerful so you need less throttle to get going. I have a 500 and my dad has a 700 and we have the same issue. he gets great gas milage. is your friends a 1999 xc 500 by chance?
2002 x-country according to the topic
oh haha im dumb.
how does he ride? cuz if he opens it up alot then that could be part of it.
98 XC700 97.3 mph 1000 ft.
00 XC500SP 45th Anniversary Ed.
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September 25th 2008 at 4:16 PM
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Quinlan
Department of Corrections
Quinlan is a little disappointed that he received HMK Highmark 4 boots instead of the Highmark Pros as he had anticipated...
Updated Friday at 6:19 PM
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9723 Posts
Group: Moderators
Member Since: December 8th 2003
Location: Fargo, ND, USA
Current Sled: 06 SP 440/700, 98 ZR 600
2008-2009 Miles: 365
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Quote originally posted by polarisorbust
about 70-80 mile to a tank, Im getting about 120-130.
Quote originally posted by Quinlan
Any idea how many miles he's getting on a tank? Alot of ZR's are notorious for piss poor mileage.
There's quite a few ZR's out there that only get that...I own one of them. I usually get about 80 miles and am looking for a gas station. Rarely get upwards of 100miles. I ride pretty hard though...lots of throttle...
2006 Arctic Cat SnoPro 440/700 EFI
1998 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI Custom
1996 Ski-Doo FormulaIII 600
A mountain lion roaming the prairie found a bull, killed it and ate the entire bull. With a heavy belly, unable to walk, the lion laid in the tall grass moaning and roaring. Soon a hunter, attracted by the roaring, shot and killed the lion.
Moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut!
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September 25th 2008 at 5:10 PM
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BC_Dan
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I had a ZR580 carb, it got 7 mpg. I regreased the rear idler wheels (synthetic grease), made sure the track was exactly centered, adjusted the skis to spec, made sure the skis had good carbide and weren't all chewed up, got it up to about 7.5. Then I got rid of the 6-post primary and put a 9-post AC primary on, made sure it was clean and had a new spring, put a new spring on the secondary, made sure the offset and deflection were perfect, and got it up to almost 9 mpg. I also went to blue marble, went from 9 to 10 with no additional changes. I sold the sled, the guy that bought it gets 9-10 mpg, which is on the awesome side for a ZR. Those engines have never been known to get good mileage, so set up the sled as perfect as you can to get rid of as much power-robbing friction as you can. They CAN get better than 7, honest!
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September 25th 2008 at 10:36 PM
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kingofkings
argueing with idiots
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Member Since: August 19th 2008
Location: Little Falls, MN, USA
Current Sled: 1998 ZL 500
2008-2009 Miles: 700+
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I use to own a 95 ZR 580EFI and that got nearly 100 miles to a tank every time.
My brother has an older ZR 440 and that thing gets worse gas mileage than my 580 did.
-To ride or not to ride, what a stupid question!
-You should never judge a guy until you have walked a mile in his shoes, then you are a mile away and have his shoes
-Ice, snow, or grass, I'll still kick your ass.
-"And when he gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, one more soldier reporting Sir I have served my time in Hell"
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September 25th 2008 at 11:07 PM
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powderforlife
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Location: Eagle river, Alaska
Current Sled: 1999 Powder Special 700
2008-2009 Miles: 250
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My 700 powder special pretty much the same engine as the ZR gets around 8-10 mpg.
1999 Powder Special 700
Super-Q can
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billet adjuster blocks
Fox Shocks all the way around
surefoot grips
Tunnel Braces
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136 inch track with 2 inch paddle
Making a custom Airbox..
Boyesen Power Reeds arrived!
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Tunnel braces
Fly Oversized handlebars with Rox 2'' risors.
other family sled.
The new edition.
1993 Storm 750 SKS. my sled "The Project"
not running low compression
1998 Powder Special 600 EFI(stock) the dads sled
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September 26th 2008 at 9:36 AM
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kingofkings
argueing with idiots
kingofkings .
Updated Friday at 6:33 AM
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717 Posts
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Member Since: August 19th 2008
Location: Little Falls, MN, USA
Current Sled: 1998 ZL 500
2008-2009 Miles: 700+
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You're comparing a 700 to a 500. Just think, a lot of V-6's will get the same gas mileage as a 4 banger or even better sometimes because they don't have to work as hard; I think. My dads 800 gets better gas mileage than my 500 but his is an 08 and has EFI and mine is carbbed
-To ride or not to ride, what a stupid question!
-You should never judge a guy until you have walked a mile in his shoes, then you are a mile away and have his shoes
-Ice, snow, or grass, I'll still kick your ass.
-"And when he gets to Heaven, to St. Peter he will tell, one more soldier reporting Sir I have served my time in Hell"
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September 26th 2008 at 9:51 AM
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ClassicCat76
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2008-2009 Miles: 450
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If so it's similiar to what my dad's friend did. He bought a Ford Econoline v6 for the better gas versus the v8 and the v6 gets the same if not worse gas milage than the v8 because it is underpowered for that heavy van.
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Old doesn't necessarily mean slow!!
Do what you can with what you got.
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September 26th 2008 at 10:01 AM
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MuscleD
It doesnt matter where you are in life, its who you have beside you.
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Member Since: February 2nd 2008
Location: Mankato, Minnesota, USA
Current Sled: 1999 polaris xc 500
2008-2009 Miles: 25
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yea it all depend on the size.
a small car with a small engine = good gas milage
big car with a small engine = bad gas milage.
big car with a big engine = fairly good gas milage
small car with a big engine = great gas milage (except thats usualy in the sports car area so people usualy drive fast in them = not so good gas milage) haha
fool
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September 26th 2008 at 4:16 PM
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440_jag
450 horse ditch bannger
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Yeah I fill my 440 twice as much as my dad and he drives a 700 vmax. But I run that baby full to the bar all the time.
2002 Zr 500 CCE
D&D pipe ported polished y 6 inch riser Acerbis Handguards Chrome winshield Pro-glider Rack Rsi pad Ripped graphics Fox snow pro shocks clickers
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September 30th 2008 at 9:45 AM
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polarisorbust
Eat my roost !!!!
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627 Posts
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Member Since: December 21st 2005
Location: Morley, Michigan
Current Sled: 1998 XC 700
2008-2009 Miles: 1178 miles
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my wife rides a 2000 xc 500sp, that gets better mileage than mine. my buddy with the AC used it once and asked me what I want for it. something is definately wrong with his. both of the 500s are simmilar in weight and horsepower.
Quote originally posted by kingofkings
You're comparing a 700 to a 500. Just think, a lot of V-6's will get the same gas mileage as a 4 banger or even better sometimes because they don't have to work as hard; I think. My dads 800 gets better gas mileage than my 500 but his is an 08 and has EFI and mine is carbbed
98 XC700 97.3 mph 1000 ft.
00 XC500SP 45th Anniversary Ed.
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October 6th 2008 at 8:50 PM
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Sno-mo-nut
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Years ago I had a Pol 500. It was the same way. I got half the mileage than the larger displacement sleds. When they were at half throttle, I was pinned just trying to keep up. It drank gas like there was no tomorrow.
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October 7th 2008 at 9:20 AM
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grblackwood
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Must be a polaris. I have a firecat 500, and ride it like i stole the thing all the time, and it still get awesome gas mileage. Much better then my buddies 800 rev or another mxz 600, all riding the trails at the same speeds. As a matter of fact it gets about the same mileage as my cousins 660 Turbo ST. So i'd say if your getting that kinda mileage outta a 500 sled, it a piece of S**T.
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October 8th 2008 at 12:09 PM
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polarisorbust
Eat my roost !!!!
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627 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 21st 2005
Location: Morley, Michigan
Current Sled: 1998 XC 700
2008-2009 Miles: 1178 miles
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did you read the topic, its an Arctic Cat 500 Im talking about with horrible mileage.
Quote originally posted by grblackwood
Must be a polaris. I have a firecat 500, and ride it like i stole the thing all the time, and it still get awesome gas mileage. Much better then my buddies 800 rev or another mxz 600, all riding the trails at the same speeds. As a matter of fact it gets about the same mileage as my cousins 660 Turbo ST. So i'd say if your getting that kinda mileage outta a 500 sled, it a piece of S**T.
98 XC700 97.3 mph 1000 ft.
00 XC500SP 45th Anniversary Ed.
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