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rear suspension to soft
- what can i do?
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October 22nd 2008 at 8:34 PM
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roughrider99
Its not turbo lag, its foreplay
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Member Since: March 11th 2006
Location: Consul, Saskatchewan, Canada
Current Sled: 06 Lite Apex MTX
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hey guys the suspension on my phazer is absolutley weak and pathetic it takes nothing to bottom out.
What can i do to get my rear suspension nearly race stiff but still do it on budget?
i ride where its steep n' deep :P
06 apex mtn
excell mtn lite exhaust, fox floats on the front, Timbersled lightweight drop brackets
mtn mod seat, timbersled barkbuster front and mtn tamer rear suspensions,simmons gen 2 skis
MMP freedom axle with (3) 9 in. blaze billet wheels,Gravity worx billet lefty throttle, Cr Racing 9" risers
162 2.5 Camo Xtreme track
YAMAHA BABY!
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October 22nd 2008 at 8:39 PM
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James007
Disturbing the peace since 1991.
James007 hey guys, i switch from polaris to bombardier...can i have a topic made about that??
Updated November 14th 2009 at 4:27 PM
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Either buy new shocks, kimpex are the cheapest dont listen to anyone about how they suck because i bought i pair last season and jumped all winter and they were fine. Change the suspension springs, or ajust the little nob that the springs rest on.
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October 22nd 2008 at 8:50 PM
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03Pro-X700
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03Pro-X700 wants to get rid of my cdi, tach, wiring harness, and old cover. PM if interested.
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Revalve your shocks if you can or buy some clickers. Kimpex shocks are an average at best shock that is most often not rebuildable and after a season or two, are junk. Get some ryde fx, fox, or other quality clicker shocks and you will be happy.
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TracksUSA 144" tip-up rail extensions
1.25 camoplast predator /120 1.40' extreme max SS studs
VanAmburg tunnel extension
SLP Powder-Pro skis, Powder-Coated suspension
Holtzman tempaflow-420 main jets
10-64g weights w/ round almond spring
24/42 gearing, gutted airbox, PERC, torque arm
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October 22nd 2008 at 8:53 PM
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Sledneck26
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revalved aggressivly is what id doo. and heavy duty springs.
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October 22nd 2008 at 9:03 PM
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roughrider99
Its not turbo lag, its foreplay
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1411 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 11th 2006
Location: Consul, Saskatchewan, Canada
Current Sled: 06 Lite Apex MTX
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ya i can;t revalve or spring its gonna be race shocks or floats on the front. but i need to know what to do for the back suspension. I can get rtx springs for the rear but i don't think thats gonna be good enough. When i mean jumping i'm talking 45-100ft gaps and 15 foot drops.
i ride where its steep n' deep :P
06 apex mtn
excell mtn lite exhaust, fox floats on the front, Timbersled lightweight drop brackets
mtn mod seat, timbersled barkbuster front and mtn tamer rear suspensions,simmons gen 2 skis
MMP freedom axle with (3) 9 in. blaze billet wheels,Gravity worx billet lefty throttle, Cr Racing 9" risers
162 2.5 Camo Xtreme track
YAMAHA BABY!
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October 23rd 2008 at 6:54 AM
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Like they said, get your back shocks revalved to be stiffer, or buy a racing clicker shock setup, and then floats up front.
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October 23rd 2008 at 1:10 PM
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James007
Disturbing the peace since 1991.
James007 hey guys, i switch from polaris to bombardier...can i have a topic made about that??
Updated November 14th 2009 at 4:27 PM
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2090 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 12th 2007
Location: kirkland lake, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 2009 MXZ X 600Etec
2008-2009 Miles: 1100
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Quote originally posted by roughrider99
When i mean jumping i'm talking 45-100ft gaps and 15 foot drops.
Well Chris Burandt, your going to have to buy some of them racing shocks.
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October 23rd 2008 at 1:21 PM
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Quote originally posted by James007
Quote originally posted by roughrider99
When i mean jumping i'm talking 45-100ft gaps and 15 foot drops.
Well Chris Burandt, your going to have to buy some of them racing shocks.
Chris Burandt does 200 foot jumps without landings james. And 100 foot drops. He's more of a jimmy blaze without all the backflips
2005 Fusion 900cfi
Dynoport Can
SLP Torque Arm
1" predator track
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03' RX-1er
Custom Graphics
4th wheel + Custom wheel kit
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2000 SXr 600 Sleeper ( 700 triple big bore with cut 600 heads )
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October 23rd 2008 at 1:41 PM
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will_5
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Well Mr. Burandt himself...I'd buy the new shocks. If you dont have the money check hardcoresledder.com(or another forum)for some used ones. Why dont you just have your sponsor 'Monster' or as you like to call it.."The Green Stuff" get you some new ones 
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October 23rd 2008 at 5:10 PM
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roughrider99
Its not turbo lag, its foreplay
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1411 Posts
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Location: Consul, Saskatchewan, Canada
Current Sled: 06 Lite Apex MTX
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WOW what just happened. what did i do to derserve getting beaked? because i said i want some thing to handle a 100ft does mean i do it on a regular basis the biggest gap i have done is about 60 and it was by no means a huge air. But i'm getting better at jumping my goal for this winter is to hit the 80 to 100 foot range. I already said once that my sled has el cheapo shocks and i can;t get revalved and if u kids knew anything or did some research you would no that the rear suspension on the phazer is a torsion spring design meaning there is only a coil over center shock and then torsion springs for the rear. I realize that race suspenson is the best way to go but i wanted to see if there was something cheaper i can do.
Is there anyone on this forum who has an idea that could possilby work but not repeat what has already been said a dozen times?? I'd also like to point out the CYI that there is a lack of stickers on my sled just a scott goggle sticker since thats the kind of goggles i wear and a thor sticker since i have thor pants.
anyways now that i have ranted to make it clear i can't revlave and the heavier torsion springs for the probably won;t be enough for the rear suspension which is what i am concerned about. its already set as stiff as possibly and it bottoms out easy. Has anyone heard of any sort of upgrade kits for the phazer rear suspension.
i ride where its steep n' deep :P
06 apex mtn
excell mtn lite exhaust, fox floats on the front, Timbersled lightweight drop brackets
mtn mod seat, timbersled barkbuster front and mtn tamer rear suspensions,simmons gen 2 skis
MMP freedom axle with (3) 9 in. blaze billet wheels,Gravity worx billet lefty throttle, Cr Racing 9" risers
162 2.5 Camo Xtreme track
YAMAHA BABY!
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October 23rd 2008 at 6:10 PM
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James007
Disturbing the peace since 1991.
James007 hey guys, i switch from polaris to bombardier...can i have a topic made about that??
Updated November 14th 2009 at 4:27 PM
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2090 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 12th 2007
Location: kirkland lake, ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 2009 MXZ X 600Etec
2008-2009 Miles: 1100
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Quote originally posted by roughrider99
WOW what just happened. what did i do to derserve getting beaked? because i said i want some thing to handle a 100ft does mean i do it on a regular basis the biggest gap i have done is about 60 and it was by no means a huge air. But i'm getting better at jumping my goal for this winter is to hit the 80 to 100 foot range. I already said once that my sled has el cheapo shocks and i can;t get revalved and if u kids knew anything or did some research you would no that the rear suspension on the phazer is a torsion spring design meaning there is only a coil over center shock and then torsion springs for the rear. I realize that race suspenson is the best way to go but i wanted to see if there was something cheaper i can do.
Is there anyone on this forum who has an idea that could possilby work but not repeat what has already been said a dozen times?? I'd also like to point out the CYI that there is a lack of stickers on my sled just a scott goggle sticker since thats the kind of goggles i wear and a thor sticker since i have thor pants.
anyways now that i have ranted to make it clear i can't revlave and the heavier torsion springs for the probably won;t be enough for the rear suspension which is what i am concerned about. its already set as stiff as possibly and it bottoms out easy. Has anyone heard of any sort of upgrade kits for the phazer rear suspension.
I wasn't making fun of you, i was just acting smart. We've told you what you can do. Buy better but very expensive shocks, and new springs and set them stiff.
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October 23rd 2008 at 7:35 PM
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will_5
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Quote originally posted by James007
Quote originally posted by roughrider99
WOW what just happened. what did i do to derserve getting beaked? because i said i want some thing to handle a 100ft does mean i do it on a regular basis the biggest gap i have done is about 60 and it was by no means a huge air. But i'm getting better at jumping my goal for this winter is to hit the 80 to 100 foot range. I already said once that my sled has el cheapo shocks and i can;t get revalved and if u kids knew anything or did some research you would no that the rear suspension on the phazer is a torsion spring design meaning there is only a coil over center shock and then torsion springs for the rear. I realize that race suspenson is the best way to go but i wanted to see if there was something cheaper i can do.
Is there anyone on this forum who has an idea that could possilby work but not repeat what has already been said a dozen times?? I'd also like to point out the CYI that there is a lack of stickers on my sled just a scott goggle sticker since thats the kind of goggles i wear and a thor sticker since i have thor pants.
anyways now that i have ranted to make it clear i can't revlave and the heavier torsion springs for the probably won;t be enough for the rear suspension which is what i am concerned about. its already set as stiff as possibly and it bottoms out easy. Has anyone heard of any sort of upgrade kits for the phazer rear suspension.
I wasn't making fun of you, i was just acting smart. We've told you what you can do. Buy better but very expensive shocks, and new springs and set them stiff.
Yeah I was just playing along. I'd look into new shocks and springs and set them stiff(Like James said) if you do a lot of big jumps!
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October 23rd 2008 at 11:02 PM
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roughrider99
Its not turbo lag, its foreplay
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1411 Posts
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Member Since: March 11th 2006
Location: Consul, Saskatchewan, Canada
Current Sled: 06 Lite Apex MTX
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oh sorry i thought u guys were mockin me and thinkin i was just bull****tin u guys. ya the front end is the easy part but the rear is different there is not much for phazer suspensions. The only thing i have found is by putting in the RTX rough trail springs but i'd to find some kind of kit to overall imprve the rear suspension. Just replacing the torsion springs may not be enough
i ride where its steep n' deep :P
06 apex mtn
excell mtn lite exhaust, fox floats on the front, Timbersled lightweight drop brackets
mtn mod seat, timbersled barkbuster front and mtn tamer rear suspensions,simmons gen 2 skis
MMP freedom axle with (3) 9 in. blaze billet wheels,Gravity worx billet lefty throttle, Cr Racing 9" risers
162 2.5 Camo Xtreme track
YAMAHA BABY!
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October 24th 2008 at 7:47 AM
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timespentsearching
Diamond Shocks
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Quote originally posted by roughrider99
oh sorry i thought u guys were mockin me and thinkin i was just bull****tin u guys. ya the front end is the easy part but the rear is different there is not much for phazer suspensions. The only thing i have found is by putting in the RTX rough trail springs but i'd to find some kind of kit to overall imprve the rear suspension. Just replacing the torsion springs may not be enough
2 things. firt yahama makes a XC race kit with stiffer springs, i would suggest getting it. second if you want to get the shocks revelved let me know. im freddy gtom diamond shocks and can get you setup much better for your riding style
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October 25th 2008 at 1:00 PM
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roughrider99
Its not turbo lag, its foreplay
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1411 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: March 11th 2006
Location: Consul, Saskatchewan, Canada
Current Sled: 06 Lite Apex MTX
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i wish i could but as stated several times b4 i don;t have the rebuildable shocks these are el cheapo ones. where can i find this xc race kit?
i ride where its steep n' deep :P
06 apex mtn
excell mtn lite exhaust, fox floats on the front, Timbersled lightweight drop brackets
mtn mod seat, timbersled barkbuster front and mtn tamer rear suspensions,simmons gen 2 skis
MMP freedom axle with (3) 9 in. blaze billet wheels,Gravity worx billet lefty throttle, Cr Racing 9" risers
162 2.5 Camo Xtreme track
YAMAHA BABY!
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October 25th 2008 at 6:27 PM
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happyfast79
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you should be able to get some "fatboy" springs from your dealer like ones for a 250-300 pound rider< and get some ryde fx for some other good clicker type shock.
just my .02
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November 17th 2008 at 4:23 PM
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sledcrazys
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They sell anti-rear bottoming kits to further fine tune your rear suspension. I think they work for all models.
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