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xtra-10 conversion problems
started by bsbladine
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November 16th 2008 at 3:47 PM
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bsbladine
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Location: faribault, mn, USA
Current Sled: 04 f5:94 EXT 580;96 RXL
2008-2009 Miles: 310
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I have a 93 500 classic that I am trying to put an xtra-10 rear skid in from a 97 xc. I followed the dimensions that I found on here but I can't get my mounting bolts on the skid to compress to 23 1/16". The farthest I can get it to compress is 24 1/2" when the rear shock is in place and 24" when the shock is not attached. When the shock is not attached the rear shock tower hits the plastic stop. I am sure I'm doing something wrong, please help.
Thanks
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November 16th 2008 at 5:22 PM
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ludvic
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Are the springs disconnected? If not, your never going to get the skid in. Post some pictures of the skid and the tunnel, etc.
"It's not what you ride - but having something to ride"
2004 XCSP 700
2001 XCSP 800 - SOLD
1994 XCR 440 Liquid - Xtra 10 rear skid (retired and sold)
1983 Yamaha Bravo 250 (for the kids)
2006 Yamaha Kodiak 450
2006 Mini Quad (50cc) for the kids (One for each)
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November 16th 2008 at 6:31 PM
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bsbladine
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No, the springs are not disconnected. How do I disconnect them?
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November 16th 2008 at 7:15 PM
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jaycox
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November 16th 2008 at 7:16 PM
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whitexc
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The long part of the spring will be almost on a 45' angle going down towards the front of the sled. It will be on a plastic roller behind the wheel. Lift the spring up and bring it out around the wheel and release the tension (be careful with this step and make sure you get a good grip on the spring as it can bite back!). Now bolt up the skid and after all is done, go and put the springs back on. Keep us posted and good luck.
Polaris...it IS the way out!
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November 17th 2008 at 7:15 AM
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bsbladine
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Location: faribault, mn, USA
Current Sled: 04 f5:94 EXT 580;96 RXL
2008-2009 Miles: 310
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Quote originally posted by jaycox
what length skid is it?
It is a 121" skid.
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November 17th 2008 at 7:23 AM
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440_jag
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cant you just let the skid have full exstension on the springs and then re-drill you mounting holes. thats what i did when I did my skid conversion om my jag
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November 17th 2008 at 8:35 AM
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jaycox
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since its a 121 the holes should work, i mounted one that's a 136 and obviously they're a little different. You'll be so happy with the conversion, well worth the time and little money.
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November 17th 2008 at 11:17 AM
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ludvic
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Quote originally posted by 440_jag
cant you just let the skid have full exstension on the springs and then re-drill you mounting holes. thats what i did when I did my skid conversion om my jag
DON"T DO THAT!
The suspension will not work. Leave the holes where they are and disconnect the springs and it should go in. Like I said, with the springs connected you will never get that skid in - period! This is what it should look like with the spring disonnected. with the spring off you can compress the entire skid flat.
Good Luck!
"It's not what you ride - but having something to ride"
2004 XCSP 700
2001 XCSP 800 - SOLD
1994 XCR 440 Liquid - Xtra 10 rear skid (retired and sold)
1983 Yamaha Bravo 250 (for the kids)
2006 Yamaha Kodiak 450
2006 Mini Quad (50cc) for the kids (One for each)
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November 17th 2008 at 7:49 PM
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bsbladine
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Thanks for all of the help. When I loosened the springs it callapse perfectly. I won't have time until later this week or weekend to get the skid fully in place but it looks like it should be easy now. Does anyone suggest using the same front mounting holes or redrill new holes? The new holes would be about 3/16" farther back and about 1/8" higher. Any suggestions?
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November 17th 2008 at 9:01 PM
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whitexc
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That close..I would just put it in the way it is and try it out. Make sure you get full range if motion from the suspension. Good luck.
Polaris...it IS the way out!
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November 18th 2008 at 12:10 AM
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ludvic
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Quote originally posted by bsbladine
Thanks for all of the help. When I loosened the springs it callapse perfectly. I won't have time until later this week or weekend to get the skid fully in place but it looks like it should be easy now. Does anyone suggest using the same front mounting holes or redrill new holes? The new holes would be about 3/16" farther back and about 1/8" higher. Any suggestions?
You can try it,but you would be suprised how much a 1/2 inch can make a difference in the geometry of the entire skid. What I would do is try to put the skid in and see what happens and how it works. I would then drill the hole higher and see what kind of difference it makes. The height will make more difference then the front to back spacing. Let us know how you make out.
Good Luck!
"It's not what you ride - but having something to ride"
2004 XCSP 700
2001 XCSP 800 - SOLD
1994 XCR 440 Liquid - Xtra 10 rear skid (retired and sold)
1983 Yamaha Bravo 250 (for the kids)
2006 Yamaha Kodiak 450
2006 Mini Quad (50cc) for the kids (One for each)
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November 18th 2008 at 12:22 AM
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Just a warning, the 97 xtra 10 seems to fade the rear shock under hard use compaired to newer x10 skids. be sure to get in the fluff as much as possible to keep that rear shock cool. I cant tell you how many times I thought my rear shock was blown on the 97 skid but soon as I would play in some powder the shock cooled off and worked normal.
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