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Rx-1 mountain, stiffer or softer shocks?
- RX-1 mountain vs RX-1
started by BRP-4-LIFE
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:11 PM
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Quote originally posted by Garceau
half???? geezus it will cost him 4-6k to turbo that sled and do it right.
Why not just get a hold of the guy you busted his balls about not being an advertiser here, even though he was, and have a set rebuilt.
Bruce at Pioneer is out your direction. Would be cheaper than new shocks, can add a better valving package and be done with it.
Seriously - is this just about attention? Did you really need to come here to post a question you obviously had other means to gain the answer.
Do you mean Pioneer Performance? They actually built the A-arms that came on my dads sled when he got it, and heres how it turned out:
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:11 PM
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motodeficient
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Quote originally posted by BRP-4-LIFE
Quote originally posted by Offshore24
My question is who's giving RX-1 mountain sled shocks and springs away for $200, brand new? You can't buy one shock for $200, if they're rebuildable.
New take offs. Not in the package, but they came on a crate sled, and he swapped them out for floats.
Who and where?
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:12 PM
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Quote originally posted by polarispimpman500
just go get them re-built. i thought you said you know a couple dealers with cheap shocks, or was that a lie. cant afford 300 for shocks but can build and design his own rear mount turbo. something isn't adding up.
He got the turbo from a car. And he is having his friend weld the mounting bracket for the turbo. The oil system is coming from the dry sump on his sled. He plans on boosting it to about 7-8lbs of boost. Quote originally posted by motodeficient
Quote originally posted by BRP-4-LIFE
Quote originally posted by Offshore24
My question is who's giving RX-1 mountain sled shocks and springs away for $200, brand new? You can't buy one shock for $200, if they're rebuildable.
New take offs. Not in the package, but they came on a crate sled, and he swapped them out for floats.
Who and where?
A guy from lewistion that we bought a cdi, computer module, and carb rack for $120.
2005 Fusion 900cfi
Dynoport Can
SLP Torque Arm
1" predator track
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Dads:
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Custom Graphics
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:16 PM
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motodeficient
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These guys are in Bethel but I think Diamondshocks has better pricing
http://www.shock-tech.com/pricing.htm
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:16 PM
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Garceau
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Oh no....this is a train wreck.
RX-1 motor is pricey to rebuild if he tanks it.
Yes of course Bruce at Pioneer.
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:17 PM
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Valving cost a lot more ( about $200 for both ). And he wants stiffer front shocks. His back shock is fine, but not his front ones. He figures if he can get new shocks for $200, better off going with new ones than beaten old ones.
2005 Fusion 900cfi
Dynoport Can
SLP Torque Arm
1" predator track
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Dads:
03' RX-1er
Custom Graphics
4th wheel + Custom wheel kit
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Moms:
2000 SXr 600 Sleeper ( 700 triple big bore with cut 600 heads )
Stock elsewise
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:19 PM
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polarispimpman500
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your dumb there is more to a turbo set up than hey lets just cut and weld. your family must have fallen off the crazy bus a long time ago because none of you make any sence. do you have any idea what it takes to run a turbo, and how much money it would cost to get it running right. sh!t if it was just plug and play any average redneck would have one.
ma... pa.... get me some JB weld im goin to make my skibob faster.
Before I continue, if I don't keep this sled for the whole season, I promise to never sign on to Snowmobile Fanatics again.
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2001 xc 800 sp | 1998 XCR 600 | 1999 Ski-doo formula 670
- SLP air horn | - 192 woodys | - 30 miles
- 5 inch riser | - 9000miles | - 2 motors
- 192 woodys | - Tripple Pipes | - and alot of head aches
- 6400miles | -Gas and Go | - 10000km
- CLUTCHED
- 128 polaris track
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:20 PM
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Garceau
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hmmm odd.... according to dimaonds web site much cheaper than that.
Just buy what you want, what he probably already has ordered. There was absolutly NO need for another one of your threads.
Honestly - and I hate to say it. You bring this site down, you gave too many eager young enthusiasts a bad name. Other sites mock you, and your posts.
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:21 PM
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Actually, seeing how my dad built a 5.4 4v Mustang gt, as well as 400hp dynoed Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo ( put bigger turbos on it ), and designs jet engines, he actually does know how to build these things. I'm clueless about them for the most part.
2005 Fusion 900cfi
Dynoport Can
SLP Torque Arm
1" predator track
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Dads:
03' RX-1er
Custom Graphics
4th wheel + Custom wheel kit
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Moms:
2000 SXr 600 Sleeper ( 700 triple big bore with cut 600 heads )
Stock elsewise
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:22 PM
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Garceau
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the poor moderators..... heck, I will buy ya all a beer or two. You work full time to baby sit these threads.
I dont know if at any time, there isnt a mod assigned to each and every post. Often you see 2-3 lurking around. Ya think they would have better things to do.
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:22 PM
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This post is considered "no good" by the community with a rating of -3. View it anyways?
Quote originally posted by Garceau
hmmm odd.... according to dimaonds web site much cheaper than that.
Just buy what you want, what he probably already has ordered. There was absolutly NO need for another one of your threads.
Honestly - and I hate to say it. You bring this site down, you gave too many eager young enthusiasts a bad name. Other sites mock you, and your posts.
There is a fine line between revalving and rebuilding.
He hasn't ordered anything, if the Mountain shocks aren't stiffer, he'll rebuild his.
2005 Fusion 900cfi
Dynoport Can
SLP Torque Arm
1" predator track
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Dads:
03' RX-1er
Custom Graphics
4th wheel + Custom wheel kit
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Moms:
2000 SXr 600 Sleeper ( 700 triple big bore with cut 600 heads )
Stock elsewise
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:23 PM
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Garceau
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400hp isnt much..... heck that new POS Hyundai is pushing that. Hell...there are 400hp Apex out there all over the place.
I have built and raced drag cars my entire life. 400hp wont get you far these days, even in a pump gas daily driver.
But hey....you got a little more attention outta me - GOOD JOB!
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:25 PM
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polarispimpman500
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he designs jet engines. so he clearly must be a engineer and making a good bit of money, so why are the shocks out of his financal reach.. oh yea maybe its because hes bought you too much stuff
Before I continue, if I don't keep this sled for the whole season, I promise to never sign on to Snowmobile Fanatics again.
BRP......
2001 xc 800 sp | 1998 XCR 600 | 1999 Ski-doo formula 670
- SLP air horn | - 192 woodys | - 30 miles
- 5 inch riser | - 9000miles | - 2 motors
- 192 woodys | - Tripple Pipes | - and alot of head aches
- 6400miles | -Gas and Go | - 10000km
- CLUTCHED
- 128 polaris track
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:25 PM
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Garceau
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Please please please - are you friggen kidding me. Do you honestly think I dont know the difference between a rebuild and revalve?
Fox, Walker Evans, Ryde FX, ACT, HPG and KYB
$30 Standard Shock Rebuild
$40 Reservoir Shock Rebuild
Fox Float or Ryde Fx Air 2.0
$35 Standard Shock Rebuild
PPS rebuild
$35 Standard Shock Rebuild
HPG or KYB with press fit caps
$35 Standard Shock Rebuild
Dial-A-Just Shocks
$50 Standard Shock Rebuild
Revalve any of the above
$20 Additional
50 bucks a shock to revalve AND rebuild..... get a clue man!
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:26 PM
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Quote originally posted by Garceau 400hp isnt much..... heck that new POS Hyundai is pushing that. Hell...there are 400hp Apex out there all over the place. I have built and raced drag cars my entire life. 400hp wont get you far these days, even in a pump gas daily driver. But hey....you got a little more attention outta me - GOOD JOB! 400+hp with 400+ ft/lbs of torque is pretty decent for a car that runs 89 octane, and it has supercharger in the garage waiting to go on, just needs the alternator mounts ( needs to be mounted on the bottom of the engine instead of the top ) which should bring it to around 500hp and 470 ft/lbs of torque. Also, a guy on dootalk was the one that told me it would cost that much to get my shocks revalved.
2005 Fusion 900cfi
Dynoport Can
SLP Torque Arm
1" predator track
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Dads:
03' RX-1er
Custom Graphics
4th wheel + Custom wheel kit
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Moms:
2000 SXr 600 Sleeper ( 700 triple big bore with cut 600 heads )
Stock elsewise
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:27 PM
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Quote originally posted by BRP-4-LIFE
Actually, seeing how my dad built a 5.4 4v Mustang gt, as well as 400hp dynoed Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo ( put bigger turbos on it ), and designs jet engines, he actually does know how to build these things. I'm clueless for the most part.
You finally admit it.
Quote originally posted by BRP-4-LIFE
Before I continue, if I don't keep this sled for the whole season, I promise to never sign on to Snowmobile Fanatics again.
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:28 PM
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Quote originally posted by polarispimpman500
he designs jet engines. so he clearly must be a engineer and making a good bit of money, so why are the shocks out of his financal reach.. oh yea maybe its because hes bought you too much stuff
RC jet engines. $1000 an engine a year, not that much money. And actually, its because of student loans and crap like that. Being a pilot is cheap.
2005 Fusion 900cfi
Dynoport Can
SLP Torque Arm
1" predator track
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Dads:
03' RX-1er
Custom Graphics
4th wheel + Custom wheel kit
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Moms:
2000 SXr 600 Sleeper ( 700 triple big bore with cut 600 heads )
Stock elsewise
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:28 PM
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polarispimpman500
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oo not 400hp. you put a programer on a hemi and boom 400hp. i dunno brp i think your blowin smoke
Before I continue, if I don't keep this sled for the whole season, I promise to never sign on to Snowmobile Fanatics again.
BRP......
2001 xc 800 sp | 1998 XCR 600 | 1999 Ski-doo formula 670
- SLP air horn | - 192 woodys | - 30 miles
- 5 inch riser | - 9000miles | - 2 motors
- 192 woodys | - Tripple Pipes | - and alot of head aches
- 6400miles | -Gas and Go | - 10000km
- CLUTCHED
- 128 polaris track
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:29 PM
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:29 PM
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I thought your dad was a pilot or something?
Which engines does he design because I want to have a word with him about some of the BS I have to put up with at work. I am blaming him for EVERY stupid design/flaw that I run into now.
Ohhh...I see it is RC engines...so not "real" engines....I changed Some suspension components on my RC car, so does that make me able to perform mods/maintenance to real vehicles?
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:30 PM
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polarispimpman500
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you must have got the monday or friday models. you know when his dad is out trying to figure what went wrong with his kid.....
Before I continue, if I don't keep this sled for the whole season, I promise to never sign on to Snowmobile Fanatics again.
BRP......
2001 xc 800 sp | 1998 XCR 600 | 1999 Ski-doo formula 670
- SLP air horn | - 192 woodys | - 30 miles
- 5 inch riser | - 9000miles | - 2 motors
- 192 woodys | - Tripple Pipes | - and alot of head aches
- 6400miles | -Gas and Go | - 10000km
- CLUTCHED
- 128 polaris track
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:31 PM
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Quote originally posted by BRP-4-LIFE
Quote originally posted by Garceau
400hp isnt much..... heck that new POS Hyundai is pushing that. Hell...there are 400hp Apex out there all over the place.
I have built and raced drag cars my entire life. 400hp wont get you far these days, even in a pump gas daily driver.
But hey....you got a little more attention outta me - GOOD JOB!
400+hp with 400+ ft/lbs of torque is pretty decent for a car that runs 89 octane, and it has supercharger in the garage waiting to go on, just needs the alternator mounts ( needs to be mounted on the bottom of the engine instead of the top ) which should bring it to around 500hp and 470 ft/lbs of torque.
Also, a guy on dootalk was the one that told me it would cost that much to get my shocks revalved.
It doesnt make 400 ft/lbs of torque, its a small block it doesnt have the rod length or ratio to make that much torque....maybe 325. You may get the torque up to 400 but your camshaft profile would suffer the entire package and you would probably down on HP.
Again I have built and been around drag racing the entire time.
...... so you really have no idea how much it would cost to rebuild. You probably asked this stupid question in 3 boards. It took me 20 seconds to find the prices from the guy you were talking all big too.
Building RC jet engines take no where near the science of piecing together a turbo from junk yard parts and putting it on an engine thats going to cost 3k to replace.
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:32 PM
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If the shocks are rebuildable ship them off to Ian of Monster Performance. His website is in my sig. While at it I would get the shocks set up for the riding style and weight of the main rider. Ian's a great guy to deal with. He's the one who built my ZBroz fronts this past summer.
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:32 PM
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Garceau
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ha ha ha.... now the mods are on board.
Sean I will say it again. You ever feel like you bring this on yourself?
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December 3rd 2008 at 9:35 PM
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polarispimpman500
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dont lead him on, because you know that he will put up a thread about how his dad blew his motor with the redneck set up turbo. jb weld didn't hold
Before I continue, if I don't keep this sled for the whole season, I promise to never sign on to Snowmobile Fanatics again.
BRP......
2001 xc 800 sp | 1998 XCR 600 | 1999 Ski-doo formula 670
- SLP air horn | - 192 woodys | - 30 miles
- 5 inch riser | - 9000miles | - 2 motors
- 192 woodys | - Tripple Pipes | - and alot of head aches
- 6400miles | -Gas and Go | - 10000km
- CLUTCHED
- 128 polaris track
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