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Need help deciding on a new sled and this is what I have come up with in my price range.

How do these compare to each other in power and handling?

2000-2002 Yamaha SXR 700
2000-2002 Polaris XC 600 or 700
2003 Polaris Edge




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December 3rd 2008 at 8:24 PM
 
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I think the yamaha will be a lot more dependable. The Polaris will have a better suspension but probably a lot more issues.




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December 3rd 2008 at 8:25 PM  [ Modified December 3rd 2008 at 8:25 PM ]
 
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December 3rd 2008 at 8:27 PM
 
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Best thing to do is to go and test drive some sleds and see which one you prefer the best



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December 3rd 2008 at 8:33 PM
 
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I agree with Polaris, but since im a Polaris guy im going to say the edge unless its a 500. (you could get more bang for your buck than that)




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December 3rd 2008 at 8:39 PM
 
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How does the 500 stack up against the 6 and 700's? Im not going to be racing or anything but I am afraid of getting something too small and regretting it. The 500's do seem to run a lot cheaper. I think I heard they aren't very good on gas.




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December 3rd 2008 at 8:47 PM
 
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The Edge 500's are 105 HP, plenty of power to get you in trouble




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December 3rd 2008 at 8:48 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by srxguy

I think the yamaha will be a lot more dependable. The Polaris will have a better suspension but probably a lot more issues.


The only issues he might have wold the the edge 800. Define a lot more issues? Dont talk unless you know what you are talking about.

All of the sleds are very reliable and excellent choices. All are very powerful too.

1. Yamaha SRX-the fastest of the bunch. Right around 140 horsepower. It is also the heaviest of the bunch and lacking in a good suspension for doing jumps etc. Yamaha is known for their quality and reliability.

2. XC 600 and 700-both bulletproof sleds. The 600 will have in the neighborhood of 105-110 hp, while the 700 has 115-125. They are on the Gen II chassis, wich is a very comfortable sled to ride.

3 Polaris Edge-the best suspension and handling package of the bunch. It comes in several engines, 440, 550, 500, 600, 700, 800. The 800 is sometime known to have crank failure. The chassis uses the same 600 and 700 engines as the XC, but boosts the power a little. The 800 will have around 140 horsepower. Dont count the 500 out though, it will save on gas and still puts out more than 100 horsepower.



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December 3rd 2008 at 8:54 PM  [ Modified December 3rd 2008 at 9:01 PM ]
 
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Quote originally posted by BRP-4-LIFE

1. VERY Fast, nice on groomed trails
2. Somewhat fast, reliable, and some-what comfortable
3. Reliable, and extremely comfortable, with a somewhat nice top speed ( depending on motor size ) and a somewhat nice low end.


What makes an SXR very fast?
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Dont talk unless you know what you are talking about.
Take your own advice.

1. Yamaha SRX-the fastest of the bunch. Right around 140 horsepower. It is also the heaviest of the bunch and lacking in a good suspension for doing jumps etc. Yamaha is known for their quality and reliability.

2. XC 600 and 700-both bulletproof sleds. The 600 will have in the neighborhood of 105-110 hp, while the 700 has 115-125. They are on the Gen II chassis, wich is a very comfortable sled to ride.

3 Polaris Edge-the best suspension and handling package of the bunch. It comes in several engines, 440, 550, 500, 600, 700, 800. The 800 is sometime known to have crank failure. The chassis uses the same 600 and 700 engines as the XC, but boosts the power a little. The 800 will have around 140 horsepower. Dont count the 500 out though, it will save on gas and still puts out more than 100 horsepower.


SXR(the sled he's talking about) and a SRX are NOT even close to the same thing.


There's a bunch of other things that are not true in this thread that I don't have the ambition to point out right now. Some of you guys post 100 more times than you read I think. If that time was spent reading you'd know what you're talking about.



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December 3rd 2008 at 8:55 PM
 
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Actually he stated the SXR not the SRX, which would make it the slowest of the bunch.

If it were me, I would look at the edge. Of the sleds listed it's about the most well rounded, suspension, reliability, and depending on size, power.




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December 3rd 2008 at 8:57 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by shortstop20
Quote originally posted by BRP-4-LIFE

1. VERY Fast, nice on groomed trails
2. Somewhat fast, reliable, and some-what comfortable
3. Reliable, and extremely comfortable, with a somewhat nice top speed ( depending on motor size ) and a somewhat nice low end.


What makes an SXR very fast?
Quote originally posted by Dirty_Harry
Dont talk unless you know what you are talking about.
Take your own advice.

1. Yamaha SRX-the fastest of the bunch. Right around 140 horsepower. It is also the heaviest of the bunch and lacking in a good suspension for doing jumps etc. Yamaha is known for their quality and reliability.

2. XC 600 and 700-both bulletproof sleds. The 600 will have in the neighborhood of 105-110 hp, while the 700 has 115-125. They are on the Gen II chassis, wich is a very comfortable sled to ride.

3 Polaris Edge-the best suspension and handling package of the bunch. It comes in several engines, 440, 550, 500, 600, 700, 800. The 800 is sometime known to have crank failure. The chassis uses the same 600 and 700 engines as the XC, but boosts the power a little. The 800 will have around 140 horsepower. Dont count the 500 out though, it will save on gas and still puts out more than 100 horsepower.


SXR(the sled he's talking about) and a SRX are NOT even close to the same thing.


My mistake. I always miss the X and R reversal. Dont listen to the fastest part. Boy I feel a little CYI now.



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December 3rd 2008 at 9:00 PM
 
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You should stupid!

Now go sit in the corner with your Hi-perf mag, pick out your new riser, your new hand guards, find as many monster stickers as you can, and make braaap braaaap noises.




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December 3rd 2008 at 9:02 PM
 
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Go suck a wiener Kevin!



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December 3rd 2008 at 9:06 PM  [ Modified December 3rd 2008 at 9:25 PM ]
 
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I can comment from the 700 liberty VES power standpoint. This motor pulls everybit as hard from bottom to midrange as any f7 ive ridden (4), to compare the two. The f7 simply has more top end in main part due to its 13.5 track and more agressive "drag race" setup. For the 700 and 800 liberty, its all in the setup. If you clutch, jet, and gear a 700 VES, it will feel like a whole new animal and run with just about anything (within reason) to 60-70. Just ask anyone who has a properly setup 700. They are very strong motors but from the factory they are jetted very rich and clutched poorly, as with most sleds.

As for the 800 liberty motors, there are crank issues, however they are blown way out of proportion. There are more likely than not more 800s running thousands and thousands of trouble-free miles than not. The problem with the 800s really comes from the factory. if polaris fit the cases properly within the proper specs, you wont have a crank issue, however polaris did not always do this, so there is a chance that the cases are fitted improperly, which eventually causes the crank failure. Another reason for the crank failure was broken motor mounts. The big blocks (700 and 800) NEED torque arms to keep the vibtration down. Without them, motor mounts WILL break and throw the clutches out of alignment, blowing belts and eventually twisting or snapping the crank. This was mostly an issue on the 800s however mainly because of that extra 2mm of stroke compared to the 700 which caused all of the excess vibration.

The 800s need the updated Stainless steel valves as well to prevent motor damage. The earlier ones (titanium and aluminium) melted or broke off and caused severe engine damage. To sum it up, with a torque arm, updated valves, and correct case fittings, you will have a dead reliable motor. Now, to the power standpoint. The 800s were flatout dogs from the factory, moreso that the 700s by far, in fact a 700 liberty will run side by side a 800 liberty stock for stock. If you setup the 800 with clutching, jetting, gearing, traction, and maybe a pipe, you will have an arm wrencher, similar to the 700. Both motors have outstanding torque as well.

If you can find a nice 600 xc sp (in the edge chassis) i'd buy that before any of the other options. But before i should say that, how do you ride? lake and high speed straight trail? SRX is your choice. Tight twisty trails at a quick pace with the occasional higher speed runs? The 600, 700, or 800 libertys will work great here. Mainly trail with no intention on winning drag races? The 500 will suit your needs just fine with 105 h.p.

EDIT: SXR! i always get those mixed up!



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December 3rd 2008 at 9:21 PM  [ Modified December 3rd 2008 at 9:22 PM ]
 
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^^^^^^^^^
Excellent post and 100% correct, but remember we are talking about an SXR, not a SRX.

You can't go wrong with any of the sleds you listed, let the riding that you like to do dictate the sled you buy.



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December 3rd 2008 at 9:27 PM
 
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Everyone gets them things confused....geezus Yammi, your killing us here.




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December 3rd 2008 at 9:31 PM  [ Modified December 3rd 2008 at 9:32 PM ]
 
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It was pretty stupid for Yamaha to name them SXR and SRX. The actual name is SX-R(notice the dash). You can remember which is the triple with a single pipe because the SX had the same motor, when the R was added they increased the suspension travel but for the most part it was the same sled. Meanwhile a SRX is a totally different beast.



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December 3rd 2008 at 9:33 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by Garceau

Everyone gets them things confused....geezus Yammi, your killing us here.


I didnt get them confused I just misread.

So Gixxer, what are you thinking?



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December 3rd 2008 at 10:00 PM
 
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I always pick Polaris XC, but a lot of my family rides yahama and they never break down

I would try to sit on all of them or take them for a ride you might find that one dosent fit you phyicaly

Any sled is better than no sled and the season is fast aproaching

let us know what you decide



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December 4th 2008 at 1:14 AM  [ Modified December 4th 2008 at 1:25 AM ]
 
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Quote originally posted by Dirty_Harry
Quote originally posted by srxguy

I think the yamaha will be a lot more dependable. The Polaris will have a better suspension but probably a lot more issues.


The only issues he might have wold the the edge 800. Define a lot more issues? Dont talk unless you know what you are talking about.

All of the sleds are very reliable and excellent choices. All are very powerful too.

1. Yamaha SRX-the fastest of the bunch. Right around 140 horsepower. It is also the heaviest of the bunch and lacking in a good suspension for doing jumps etc. Yamaha is known for their quality and reliability.

2. XC 600 and 700-both bulletproof sleds. The 600 will have in the neighborhood of 105-110 hp, while the 700 has 115-125. They are on the Gen II chassis, wich is a very comfortable sled to ride.

3 Polaris Edge-the best suspension and handling package of the bunch. It comes in several engines, 440, 550, 500, 600, 700, 800. The 800 is sometime known to have crank failure. The chassis uses the same 600 and 700 engines as the XC, but boosts the power a little. The 800 will have around 140 horsepower. Dont count the 500 out though, it will save on gas and still puts out more than 100 horsepower.


I think we are talking about an SXR hutch. The writer was asking for our opinions. Based on my experiences I gave my honest opinion. Just because a persons conclusion doesn't reflect your own doesn't necessarily mean they are wrong. I didn't post to hear your thoughts on my opinion.





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December 4th 2008 at 7:15 AM
 
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What i think is you should get what your really looking for. And what you want it to do for you. Groomed trails, jumping, drifts?



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December 4th 2008 at 9:31 AM
 
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Quote originally posted by srxguy
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Quote originally posted by srxguy

I think the yamaha will be a lot more dependable. The Polaris will have a better suspension but probably a lot more issues.


The only issues he might have wold the the edge 800. Define a lot more issues? Dont talk unless you know what you are talking about.

All of the sleds are very reliable and excellent choices. All are very powerful too.

1. Yamaha SRX-the fastest of the bunch. Right around 140 horsepower. It is also the heaviest of the bunch and lacking in a good suspension for doing jumps etc. Yamaha is known for their quality and reliability.

2. XC 600 and 700-both bulletproof sleds. The 600 will have in the neighborhood of 105-110 hp, while the 700 has 115-125. They are on the Gen II chassis, wich is a very comfortable sled to ride.

3 Polaris Edge-the best suspension and handling package of the bunch. It comes in several engines, 440, 550, 500, 600, 700, 800. The 800 is sometime known to have crank failure. The chassis uses the same 600 and 700 engines as the XC, but boosts the power a little. The 800 will have around 140 horsepower. Dont count the 500 out though, it will save on gas and still puts out more than 100 horsepower.


I think we are talking about an SXR hutch. The writer was asking for our opinions. Based on my experiences I gave my honest opinion. Just because a persons conclusion doesn't reflect your own doesn't necessarily mean they are wrong. I didn't post to hear your thoughts on my opinion.




Well by stating that the Polaris would probably have a lot more problems, your ignorance is inviting people to comment on your opinion.

I realized later on that we were talking about an SXR and not a SRX (thanks SHORTSTOP lol) so I am very much corrected there.



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December 4th 2008 at 2:37 PM
 
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Well it sounds like I can't go wrong with any of these. They all sound pretty good.




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December 4th 2008 at 6:56 PM
 
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go with the 03 edge my dad had one and it was one of the most comfortable sleds and it handled very well



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Quote originally posted by Dirty_Harry
Quote originally posted by srxguy
Quote originally posted by Dirty_Harry
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I think the yamaha will be a lot more dependable. The Polaris will have a better suspension but probably a lot more issues.


The only issues he might have wold the the edge 800. Define a lot more issues? Dont talk unless you know what you are talking about.

All of the sleds are very reliable and excellent choices. All are very powerful too.

1. Yamaha SRX-the fastest of the bunch. Right around 140 horsepower. It is also the heaviest of the bunch and lacking in a good suspension for doing jumps etc. Yamaha is known for their quality and reliability.

2. XC 600 and 700-both bulletproof sleds. The 600 will have in the neighborhood of 105-110 hp, while the 700 has 115-125. They are on the Gen II chassis, wich is a very comfortable sled to ride.

3 Polaris Edge-the best suspension and handling package of the bunch. It comes in several engines, 440, 550, 500, 600, 700, 800. The 800 is sometime known to have crank failure. The chassis uses the same 600 and 700 engines as the XC, but boosts the power a little. The 800 will have around 140 horsepower. Dont count the 500 out though, it will save on gas and still puts out more than 100 horsepower.


I think we are talking about an SXR hutch. The writer was asking for our opinions. Based on my experiences I gave my honest opinion. Just because a persons conclusion doesn't reflect your own doesn't necessarily mean they are wrong. I didn't post to hear your thoughts on my opinion.




Well by stating that the Polaris would probably have a lot more problems, your ignorance is inviting people to comment on your opinion.

I realized later on that we were talking about an SXR and not a SRX (thanks SHORTSTOP lol) so I am very much corrected there.


I have owned all brands. That's my conclusion. How many different brands have you personally owned???? Judging by your pic i'm guessing not very many.





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