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Screwed up stud job on his new sled? Take a look
- Pics pics and lots of pic
started by PolarisHockey9019
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December 25th 2008 at 5:56 PM
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PolarisHockey9019
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Brother got his new sled and saw it for the first time tonight. He got studs. He was just going to have doubles put in but the dealer put singles in, and the dealer calls him and tells him he didn't have enough. Screw up #1. They already had drilled holes in it. The pattern was double-single  (None on the outside) The sales guy (from Spicers in Houghton Lake) where he got his sled from told him to use that pattern going Double-Single-Double in whatever pattern its called. Well here is the pattern they gave...if you could call it a pattern...          Is it that bad? I mean its not even really lined up He paid over $250 for the extra studs and labor. I told him to go back tomorrow and show them and ask what the heck were they thinking. He showed them this pattern, had it circled and left it with the service manager. The SM even told him that they miscomunicated with his service guys. They fired all the old good guys and brought in all these new kids And the SM at the dealer told him he didn't need tunnel protectors...
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December 25th 2008 at 6:22 PM
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redwolf_92
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I think I would talk to them. If the studs were not installed correctly I wouldn't pay for the labor. Gonna hafta pay for the studs either way.
I make sh!t out of crap
Ditch Compacter- 2001 RMK 600 motor and suspension, 1999 RMK 700 chassis, Thundershift weights set up to 62g, almond/gold spring, SLP pipe and silencer, 136x1.75 track, 1994 indy 440 seat, 19-40 gears, 34 deg. helix,
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December 25th 2008 at 6:25 PM
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westman995
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ya i dono it really doesnt look right.. Definitly NOTHING like the patern in the pic you posted.. That is definitely NOT a damn patter, on the right side of the track, i can see in differnt pics, 3 in a row of double backers then a single stud, but then in another pic i see 4 double backers in a row. definitly looks wrong..
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December 25th 2008 at 6:38 PM
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MX4life
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that doesnt look like any stud pattern ive ever seen, i wonder were that guy is working tomorrow?
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December 25th 2008 at 6:43 PM
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hondarider17
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Wow..
thats really bad.
thats no pattern at all, they f**ked up your track man..
id get something done about this
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December 25th 2008 at 7:04 PM
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ganung
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Dude, that's a pretty horrible studding job.
Were the techs who studded it high or something? Seriously, get it taken care of or get a refund or something.
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December 25th 2008 at 7:11 PM
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2002ZR800
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I admit it looks like SH!T but you don't want any of them to line up they are suppose to have their own scratch line, you get more traction that way.
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December 25th 2008 at 7:12 PM
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MJay
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Looks fine to me. It might not be a distinct pattern but it will certainly have a lot of scratch lines.
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December 25th 2008 at 9:01 PM
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redwolf_92
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^^^ I agree. Dont worry about removing them and starting over, but if they arent what you asked for then I think you are entitled to some kind of price reduction.
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02 Mountain Cat 800 EFI, 159x2 camo extreme, v-force 3 reeds, holz front a-arms, C&A ultrapro skis, lightweight can, ported track, boss seat, extra cooling, LED brake light, lefty throttle
68' firebird (still restoring)
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December 25th 2008 at 9:07 PM
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sledneck1978
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I'd bitch...it's not what was promised. Yes it will work fine but I still wouldn't pay for incorrect labor. Would you pay for a seat cover that fit if it was the wrong color? And why no tunnel protectors? BS IMO
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December 25th 2008 at 9:19 PM
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ripperd
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Looks like crap, but will function just fine, if not better than a lined-up stud pattern. The above poster mentioning scratch lines is correct.
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December 25th 2008 at 9:32 PM
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stringcheese
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looks bad, unbalanced, and i would hope you paid with a CC so you can dispute the charges. I'd even look into small claims court. they ruined your track and studs don't like being taken out and put back in much. thats like a $1000 f-job you got.
what sled is that on?
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December 25th 2008 at 9:34 PM
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polarissledneck28
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might as well saved the money and done it your self. I would def get some tunnel protectors before you use that. Trust me... I know about studs and exchangers. good luck with trying to get the dealer to give you a price break. I feel that you do deserve one!
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December 25th 2008 at 9:42 PM
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Quote originally posted by MJay
Looks fine to me. It might not be a distinct pattern but it will certainly have a lot of scratch lines.
Exactly my thoughts as well. Nothing wrong there. Doesn't look pretty but it will be completely fine.
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December 25th 2008 at 9:48 PM
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ProXtreme
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This is not fine! Patterns are designed for 2 reasons, to ensure a certain number of scratch lines and to make sure the weight of the studs is evenly distributed. You have neither. Your track will not act like an unbalanced tire.
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December 25th 2008 at 9:57 PM
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toomany
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I agree, nothing wrong with the patern (if you can call it that). Sure it isn't what you wanted, but I'd run it without any concerns. The more studs that don't line up with others, the better. Looks like they followed somewhat of a pattern. 3 doubles on the right, 2 on the left, 3 on right, etc.
Spicers is a big, high volume dealer. Heard some good things about their shop. I can't see them totatly screwing something up. Is it the wrong pattern, yes. Is it a bad one, no.
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December 25th 2008 at 10:08 PM
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cat_man_doo08
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that stud pattern cam from the inside of a cracker jack box. That would be like putting 2 ounces of weight on the inside of a car rim and none on the outside. Like stringcheese said out of balance.
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December 25th 2008 at 10:24 PM
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TriumphoverU
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first...drive the sled, see how it does period! yes it looks goofy, but it should still function properly.
Second, you dont need tunnel protectors, cant you guys see the coolers running above the windows on the track, those will act as your tunnel protectors.
third, it looks like a balanced pattern to me, there are 3 studs per lug. I think it will be fine. agreed its not what you asked for but it is a very good setup.
I purchase everything snowmobile related from spicers in Houghton lake, I have one salesman i deal with, and only one. He treats me right, doesnt beat around the bush, and is a stand up guy in my opinion. Their service dept leaves a little to be desired though. But since i do all my own wrenching, i have never had to deal with them except for a few warranty issues. If you bought the sled from them, go talk to the salesman that sold you the sled, see if he can do anything for you if you think you still want something done about the stud pattern.
Polaris is my way out - Other people just use a door.
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December 25th 2008 at 10:26 PM
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toomany
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Quote originally posted by cat_man_doo08
that stud pattern cam from the inside of a cracker jack box. That would be like putting 2 ounces of weight on the inside of a car rim and none on the outside. Like stringcheese said out of balance.
I don't see it being that far out of balance. All the studs are down the center belt. Is it out of balance, yes if you split the track right down the center.
I've seen lots of sleds that have a pattern similar to this. Even ride with a couple of guys who are studded this way. Haven't had a single problem yet. Maybe it's causing more wear on the drive shaft bearings, who knows.
FYI: When balancing tire it is common practice to put weight only on one side of the tire, on each side of the rim at differnt spot around the tire. Unless you're using stick on weights in the center.
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December 25th 2008 at 10:42 PM
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PolarisHockey9019
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Turned out they didn't charge him labor after screwing up the first time
It was done down in Plymouth (down where he had other work done before hand)
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Either way, even if he did get free labor due to their screw up, he didn't get the pattern he wanted
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December 25th 2008 at 10:53 PM
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stringcheese
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lol. One of my highschool classmates just bought Plymouth Motorsports.
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December 25th 2008 at 11:27 PM
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PolarisHockey9019
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Quote originally posted by stringcheese
lol. One of my highschool classmates just bought Plymouth Motorsports.
And as bad as I hate to say it but what were they thinking when they hired these new people in there?
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December 26th 2008 at 12:15 AM
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The_Mad_Warrior
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I know this has been posted but IMO the more scratches the better no matter how horrible it looks. These new guys either got lucky and it ended up with quite a few scratch lines or they knew what would be best.
If you cant fix it with duct tape, tylnol, or band aids your screwed.
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December 26th 2008 at 1:04 AM
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December 26th 2008 at 6:21 AM
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Luke
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Quote originally posted by TriumphoverU
first...drive the sled, see how it does period! yes it looks goofy, but it should still function properly.
Second, you dont need tunnel protectors, cant you guys see the coolers running above the windows on the track, those will act as your tunnel protectors.
third, it looks like a balanced pattern to me, there are 3 studs per lug. I think it will be fine. agreed its not what you asked for but it is a very good setup.
+1
Pattern is fine. Thats almost identical to what I'm going to do with my sled.
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