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Arctic cat oils
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January 10th 2009 at 12:09 PM
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440_jag
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Well the oil for my sled is 50 bucks a gallon. Or well the arctic cat brand is. I have a friend that has a pantara that has AVP like my sled, it has 6000 miles and all they have used it CITCO SUPER GUARD 2 STROKE. And he hasn't had a problem with it yet.
What my question is is that is this oil ok? Or is it too cheap of a oil. Its 10 bucks or so a gallon.
Other question is what do you guys run and how much you pay for it?
Oil is too damn exspensive!
2002 Zr 500 CCE
D&D pipe ported polished y 6 inch riser Acerbis Handguards Chrome winshield Pro-glider Rack Rsi pad Ripped graphics Fox snow pro shocks clickers
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January 10th 2009 at 12:25 PM
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Quinlan
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It's probably fine. Some people claim to run Wal-mart oil with no problems, so to each their own. If it's not designed for PV's though, it may gum them up quicker and require cleaning more often, just something to keep in mind.
I think the Cat oil is overpriced (or APV oil is). I run Amsoil Interceptor in mine. I picked up a case on sale last winter for $28/gal...I see now it's about $5 more this year even on sale. Once I run out of Interceptor, I plan on picking up a case of Klotz to try. From what I've seen, it's usually on par with Interceptor prices.
2006 Arctic Cat SnoPro 440/700 EFI
1998 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI Custom
1996 Ski-Doo FormulaIII 600
A mountain lion roaming the prairie found a bull, killed it and ate the entire bull. With a heavy belly, unable to walk, the lion laid in the tall grass moaning and roaring. Soon a hunter, attracted by the roaring, shot and killed the lion.
Moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut!
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January 10th 2009 at 12:28 PM
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440_jag
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How much is klots. And where can i get it.
Thanks for the imput
2002 Zr 500 CCE
D&D pipe ported polished y 6 inch riser Acerbis Handguards Chrome winshield Pro-glider Rack Rsi pad Ripped graphics Fox snow pro shocks clickers
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January 10th 2009 at 12:35 PM
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johny5
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I run amsoil interceptor in my cats, w/ power valves and have no problems...
life is good,, go sledding...
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January 10th 2009 at 12:48 PM
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MJay
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I use Cat APV oil and gladly pay the $65 a gallon. I had over 3000 miles and 3 yrs before I cleaned my valves and they were in great shape. Using cheap oil just isnt worth the risk for me and I like to support my dealer on stuff I have to buy anyways.
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January 10th 2009 at 12:57 PM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
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Quote originally posted by 440_jag
How much is klots. And where can i get it.
Thanks for the imput
klotzlubemn@aol.com
Get ahold of rick, he is a great guy with fast shipping. It is $26 per gallon. He likes to sell it in 4 gallon cses as the shipping is cheaper but he will sell what ever quanity you want. He is in mn so the shipping is not long.
I run klotz in the valved sleds and in all of my 2 stroke stuff(chainsaws,weed eater, leave blower, tiller) I love the smell.
In my non valved engines I use citgo sea and snow. It works well as it is the same stuff as yamaha's 2s. Only difference is the color.
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2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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January 10th 2009 at 2:58 PM
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Twill08
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Ive been running amsoil dominator or the interceptor I use ams oil because I never seem to foul plugs with it I just got a Gal of dominator for 10$  someone messed up the pricing
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January 10th 2009 at 6:10 PM
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Raptor700rBronson
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I have been using amsoil intecepter, but now walmart oil, since AC oil is so expensive.
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January 10th 2009 at 6:30 PM
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arcticcatmatt
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Amsoil here.. but only because I am too lazy to drain it out. I want to switch. Not only because of last years rebuild.. but because the cost sucks.
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January 10th 2009 at 6:50 PM
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CatDude97
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Yea walmart oil is fine, I just dont want to spend $65 bucks. I dont think it makes a difference except that the cat oil is scented. IMO.
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January 11th 2009 at 10:53 AM
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440_jag
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im thinking about going with klots or amsoil. both sounds good quality and cheap.
2002 Zr 500 CCE
D&D pipe ported polished y 6 inch riser Acerbis Handguards Chrome winshield Pro-glider Rack Rsi pad Ripped graphics Fox snow pro shocks clickers
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January 11th 2009 at 5:07 PM
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Polaris-Man
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I run Polaris VES Gold in both my sleds. It's expensive, but gotta pay to play. My engines are worth too much to use half-assed garbage in them.
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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January 11th 2009 at 5:10 PM
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srx_600
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srx_600 if its gonna be this warm i would rather have it be summer...
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I run Farmoyl in all of our sleds and havent had any problems. PVs have always been in good shape.
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January 11th 2009 at 5:43 PM
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KevinEX570
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Jeeze, I'm glad the sleds that I own personally don't have power valves. $65 for oil, yeah right. My bro and my dad run Interceptor, even that costs alot.
1987 Yamaha Exciter L/C
1995 Yamaha V-MAX 600
1998 Ski-doo Formula III 600
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January 11th 2009 at 5:56 PM
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OhioPolarisKid
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Quote originally posted by KevinEX570
Jeeze, I'm glad the sleds that I own personally don't have power valves. $65 for oil, yeah right. My bro and my dad run Interceptor, even that costs alot.
Me to. We run Citgo Sea and Snow in our 4 sleds. We had 3 jugs in the trailer, and the tags on them say 6.78. We get them cheap in the spring. My brothers buddy runs some Cat oil in his 440 Jag, and its like 32 bucks a jug.
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January 11th 2009 at 6:00 PM
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Quinlan
Department of Corrections
Quinlan is a little disappointed that he received HMK Highmark 4 boots instead of the Highmark Pros as he had anticipated...
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Location: Fargo, ND, USA
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2008-2009 Miles: 365
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Quote originally posted by OhioPolarisKid
My brothers buddy runs some Cat oil in his 440 Jag, and its like 32 bucks a jug.
Dealers in other states must mark their oils up more or something. Dealers around here had regular Cat 50:1 at $24/gal...
2006 Arctic Cat SnoPro 440/700 EFI
1998 Arctic Cat ZR 600 EFI Custom
1996 Ski-Doo FormulaIII 600
A mountain lion roaming the prairie found a bull, killed it and ate the entire bull. With a heavy belly, unable to walk, the lion laid in the tall grass moaning and roaring. Soon a hunter, attracted by the roaring, shot and killed the lion.
Moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut!
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January 11th 2009 at 6:05 PM
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KevinEX570
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I pay $25 a gallon for Yamalube 2S, around the same for Cat 50:1. Can't find Citgo S&S anywhere. I did just buy a gallon of Amsoil HP for $30 and will probably switch to that once I use the other oil up.
1987 Yamaha Exciter L/C
1995 Yamaha V-MAX 600
1998 Ski-doo Formula III 600
1998 Yamaha SRX 700
2001 Arctic Cat T-Cat
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January 11th 2009 at 6:14 PM
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rvanmeet
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My Cat dealer recommended that I use Blue Marble. I have been using it for two years with no problems. As I recall it was cheaper than the Car oil.
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2007 Ski Doo MZX 500SS
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January 13th 2009 at 7:22 AM
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440_jag
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Well i dont know if I want to run citgo s&s because i think its a little too cheap. but I think arcitc cat jack$ their price$ up alot! well just to make money. And i think thats why the dealer recomends it. Yea they want you to buy their oil..... its 60 bucks a jug. lol
2002 Zr 500 CCE
D&D pipe ported polished y 6 inch riser Acerbis Handguards Chrome winshield Pro-glider Rack Rsi pad Ripped graphics Fox snow pro shocks clickers
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January 13th 2009 at 7:55 AM
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zxkid
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I run Cat APV it's 39.95/gal out my way, amsoil or klotz is usually 35-45, so I can't complain about the price. Plus the APV burns clean. I run CAT 50:1 in my ZR580, and it's on 6000miles. I drive all Ford cars & trucks and only use Motorcraft oils. If I rode a Polaris I'd use Polaris oil, just the way I am, for a few extra bucks it's worth knowing that you don't have to worry about it.
"To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid"
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January 13th 2009 at 8:17 AM
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tommyboy
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My family runs Arctic blue synthetic you can usually get it on sale for around $14.00 a gallon at fleet farm. I have 5,000 miles on this sled and 8,000 on my last one with no problems.
Tommy
Milwaukee WI
2001 polaris 550 super sport
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January 13th 2009 at 8:20 AM
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ninjallo
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one the sled shops here has been running a huge sale 2 galls of ur choice oil for 20$ as long as u provide teh jug i useally stock up jsut go in each day n get my oil
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January 13th 2009 at 8:31 AM
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DaveM
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Quote originally posted by 440_jag
Well i dont know if I want to run citgo s&s because i think its a little too cheap. You are going to base the quality of an oil by the price tag ??? 
Citgo Sea and snow is Jaso FD certified...the HIGHEST 2 cycle rating at this time.....
If it was a cheap oil...I don't think it would be certified.
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January 13th 2009 at 8:51 AM
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TRIPLEB
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Quote originally posted by Polaris-Man
I run Polaris VES Gold in both my sleds. It's expensive, but gotta pay to play. My engines are worth too much to use half-assed garbage in them.
I totally agree- run the good stuff! Your sled will perform as good as it's maintained- that includes good quality gas and oil. Also, I find it interesting how many people with older sleds without power valves think they can get by with whatever cheapo oil they can find- it still has rings and bearings doesn't it?? I would be more concerned about keeping my crank bearings happy than dirty valves. For me that means synthetic all the way!
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January 13th 2009 at 9:07 AM
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xcr440
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xcr440 is drinking high lifes polishing the sleds. Who wants to help....
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Quote originally posted by 440_jag
Well i dont know if I want to run citgo s&s because i think its a little too cheap. Just because it is $15 a gallon you think it is cheap huh, explain that logic to me.
Citgo s&s is the exact same formula other than a color change as Yamalube 2s. Ask anyone about yamalube. You can't go wrong with this oil.
Quote originally posted by TRIPLEB
Quote originally posted by Polaris-Man
I run Polaris VES Gold in both my sleds. It's expensive, but gotta pay to play. My engines are worth too much to use half-assed garbage in them.
I totally agree- run the good stuff! Your sled will perform as good as it's maintained- that includes good quality gas and oil. Also, I find it interesting how many people with older sleds without power valves think they can get by with whatever cheapo oil they can find- it still has rings and bearings doesn't it?? I would be more concerned about keeping my crank bearings happy than dirty valves. For me that means synthetic all the way!
Only issue with a synthetic oil is it doesn't have as good/many of rust inhibators as dino oil.
Talk to dan ant indyspecaltys, He doesn't want anyone using his cranks to use synthetic oils.
He was talking about giving a lifetime waranty on his cranks if he could prove if you used syn or dino oil.
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Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
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woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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