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Which Polaris best suits me? - I'm looking for input from people who've owned these sleds started by DaFuzz
January 14th 2009 at 8:58 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by gordonchaine

Get a Pro-X, put the heavy duty springs in it. If you get stuck a lot or it just doesn't have it in the deep stuff, put a deeper lug and/or longer track on it but if speed and trail riding is more the thing you do I wouldn't got more than 136"


trust me, you don't need to put heavier springs in it. The suspension is so stiff as is that it would be very hard to bottom, unless of course the shocks have been revalved and a different from shock spring used like i did. The stock suspension setup is too stiff for a 200# rider. Also, with the adjustable clicker shocks, you can stiffen it up even more to resist bottoming.



2003 pro-x 700;
TracksUSA 144" tip-up rail extensions
1.25 camoplast predator /120 1.40' extreme max SS studs
VanAmburg tunnel extension
SLP Powder-Pro skis, Powder-Coated suspension
Holtzman tempaflow-420 main jets
10-64g weights w/ round almond spring
24/42 gearing, gutted airbox, PERC, torque arm

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January 14th 2009 at 8:59 PM
 
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get a pro-x 7. The 800 motors of those time periods were prone to crank problems. Then you will have to put out big $$ to fix it.




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January 14th 2009 at 9:31 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by 03Pro-X700
Quote originally posted by gordonchaine

Get a Pro-X, put the heavy duty springs in it. If you get stuck a lot or it just doesn't have it in the deep stuff, put a deeper lug and/or longer track on it but if speed and trail riding is more the thing you do I wouldn't got more than 136"


trust me, you don't need to put heavier springs in it. The suspension is so stiff as is that it would be very hard to bottom, unless of course the shocks have been revalved and a different from shock spring used like i did. The stock suspension setup is too stiff for a 200# rider. Also, with the adjustable clicker shocks, you can stiffen it up even more to resist bottoming.


I like how my pro x rides with the stock springs. It is perfect for my 200lbs.



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January 14th 2009 at 9:52 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
Quote originally posted by 03Pro-X700
Quote originally posted by gordonchaine

Get a Pro-X, put the heavy duty springs in it. If you get stuck a lot or it just doesn't have it in the deep stuff, put a deeper lug and/or longer track on it but if speed and trail riding is more the thing you do I wouldn't got more than 136"


trust me, you don't need to put heavier springs in it. The suspension is so stiff as is that it would be very hard to bottom, unless of course the shocks have been revalved and a different from shock spring used like i did. The stock suspension setup is too stiff for a 200# rider. Also, with the adjustable clicker shocks, you can stiffen it up even more to resist bottoming.


I like how my pro x rides with the stock springs. It is perfect for my 200lbs.


yea i guess it all depends on preference.




2003 pro-x 700;
TracksUSA 144" tip-up rail extensions
1.25 camoplast predator /120 1.40' extreme max SS studs
VanAmburg tunnel extension
SLP Powder-Pro skis, Powder-Coated suspension
Holtzman tempaflow-420 main jets
10-64g weights w/ round almond spring
24/42 gearing, gutted airbox, PERC, torque arm

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January 14th 2009 at 10:10 PM
 
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Yeah, I have been riding xcr's for most of my riding life. I guess I like the heavier sprung machines.



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2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow

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January 15th 2009 at 9:27 AM
 
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Not really adding anything here, but I think the Pro X with a 136" would be perfect for you. Possibly a 144."



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January 15th 2009 at 2:15 PM
 
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What is the usual problem with the 800 cranks? Twisting, breakage, bearings, crankcase problems, lack of oil, what? And are there any problems with the 700 cranks/cases I should know about? Also, I've read there are different #s that are better than others on the cylinders? Which #s should I be looking for, and how do I tell, since I'm not in a hurry and want to find as near to perfect as I can.

Also, I was looking in Dennis Kirk at tracks, and they don't show much for 144s? Should I be sticking with 136 just because its more popular?



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January 15th 2009 at 3:05 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by DaFuzz

What is the usual problem with the 800 cranks? Twisting, breakage, bearings, crankcase problems, lack of oil, what? And are there any problems with the 700 cranks/cases I should know about? Also, I've read there are different #s that are better than others on the cylinders? Which #s should I be looking for, and how do I tell, since I'm not in a hurry and want to find as near to perfect as I can.

Also, I was looking in Dennis Kirk at tracks, and they don't show much for 144s? Should I be sticking with 136 just because its more popular?


The way I understand it is the 800 cranks break because the PTO bearing is too small and it goes out, causing the crank to become untrue. I have heard of a few 700 cranks going too, but not nearly as many as the 800's. But like I said before, I'm not worries about mine at all. There is a few guys around that put in the bigger, wider bearing which makes them as reliable as any other sized motor. Indydan is the best of the best I've heard.

I don't know about the cylinders, but I'm sure someone who knows will chip in on that.

Tracksusa.com has a good selection of 144" tracks. If you are buying new, I'd try them first. They also give you a package deal on rail ext, tunnel ext and a track. If you are a big guy like me, personally, I wouldn't go any shorter than a 144". The tipped up rail ext from tracksusa are the way to go. That's what I'm doing on my next sled.



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January 15th 2009 at 3:14 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by bigrok
Quote originally posted by DaFuzz

What is the usual problem with the 800 cranks? Twisting, breakage, bearings, crankcase problems, lack of oil, what? And are there any problems with the 700 cranks/cases I should know about? Also, I've read there are different #s that are better than others on the cylinders? Which #s should I be looking for, and how do I tell, since I'm not in a hurry and want to find as near to perfect as I can.

Also, I was looking in Dennis Kirk at tracks, and they don't show much for 144s? Should I be sticking with 136 just because its more popular?




Tracksusa.com has a good selection of 144" tracks. If you are buying new, I'd try them first. They also give you a package deal on rail ext, tunnel ext and a track. If you are a big guy like me, personally, I wouldn't go any shorter than a 144". The tipped up rail ext from tracksusa are the way to go. That's what I'm doing on my next sled.


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January 15th 2009 at 3:26 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by bigrok
Quote originally posted by DaFuzz

What is the usual problem with the 800 cranks? Twisting, breakage, bearings, crankcase problems, lack of oil, what? And are there any problems with the 700 cranks/cases I should know about? Also, I've read there are different #s that are better than others on the cylinders? Which #s should I be looking for, and how do I tell, since I'm not in a hurry and want to find as near to perfect as I can.

Also, I was looking in Dennis Kirk at tracks, and they don't show much for 144s? Should I be sticking with 136 just because its more popular?


The way I understand it is the 800 cranks break because the PTO bearing is too small and it goes out, causing the crank to become untrue. I have heard of a few 700 cranks going too, but not nearly as many as the 800's. But like I said before, I'm not worries about mine at all. There is a few guys around that put in the bigger, wider bearing which makes them as reliable as any other sized motor. Indydan is the best of the best I've heard.

I don't know about the cylinders, but I'm sure someone who knows will chip in on that.

Tracksusa.com has a good selection of 144" tracks. If you are buying new, I'd try them first. They also give you a package deal on rail ext, tunnel ext and a track. If you are a big guy like me, personally, I wouldn't go any shorter than a 144". The tipped up rail ext from tracksusa are the way to go. That's what I'm doing on my next sled.


To add to that, the 800 cranks also mainly snapped because some of the engine cases did not fit well from the factory, however some did. Its a 50/50 shot, its either a ticking time bomb or a dead reliable machine, nothing in between really. That is why some 800s can run for thousands and thousands of miles with no problems and some give at 1500 miles.

Putting a torque arm on really helps with all of the earlier liberty big blocks. excessive vibration from the extra 2mm of stroke compared to the 700 caused a lot of excess vibration, leading to broken motor mounts and the clutches getting thrown out of line, causing the crank to literally snap. Look over it and be cautious. If you buy it and it blows, send it to a guy named indydan on the snowest forums. He knows more about this problem them polaris's own engineers. He has a great warrenty too.



2003 pro-x 700;
TracksUSA 144" tip-up rail extensions
1.25 camoplast predator /120 1.40' extreme max SS studs
VanAmburg tunnel extension
SLP Powder-Pro skis, Powder-Coated suspension
Holtzman tempaflow-420 main jets
10-64g weights w/ round almond spring
24/42 gearing, gutted airbox, PERC, torque arm

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January 17th 2009 at 2:09 PM
 
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I think I will stick with 700, I don't feel like worrying about the crank problems, and the 700 should be plenty if geared right. I went to Tracksusa and it looks like I will go with the 144 with tips up. Now the question is which track is best for my purposes? I want something aggressive, I haven't decided on studs either. Cobra or Ripsaw?



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January 17th 2009 at 2:50 PM
 
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I have a 144 studs in my 700edge, its all about how and where you ride. I ride alot in southern wisconsin,icy trails and lakes. If I am not mistaken the cobra is few lbs lighter than the ripsaw. I like the 1.25 for a good mix on and off trail. I like the studs for the safety.




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January 17th 2009 at 3:42 PM
 
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Quote originally posted by bigrok

Personally, I would go for the 800 144" like I did. I'm a big guy too (over 300 with all my gear on) and the 800 is the only way to go IMO. A few minor jetting and clutching changes from stock and the 800 flat out rips. Add a pipe and it is a rocket. People say the cranks are a ticking time bomb on the 800's. Personally, I don't worry about mine. I've got almost 3000 miles on mine. Most of the crank problems are on RMK's and highly modded sleds that run at WOT majority of the time.
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January 17th 2009 at 5:59 PM
 
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get a yeller one. : )

haha... i was thinking a pro-x 700



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January 17th 2009 at 6:43 PM
 
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the pro x chassis is bulletproof, as far as reliability issues with the 800, its actually very easy and inexpensive to triple the life of this great motor. simply split the cases and enlarge the oil passeges on the pto side and put a electic start primary clutch on it. i have had great success with my 800 mod sleds. on the track length discussion my 121 x 1.75 x 14 will go anywhere any 144 will go.



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January 17th 2009 at 8:01 PM
 
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Are there any differences in the chassis between the Pro X 440, 600 and 700? I could put a motor upgrade in a smaller cc sled if the chassis are the same, but are the 700, 800 sleds beefier in any way? I was also wondering if the M10 suspension came in the Pro X chassis, or just the Edge XC? And is that the best suspension between 2002-2004? I am looking for a perfect condition chassis/suspension sled and I will put the rail ext/track package on after I find it, and I could always swap motors since I'll do some airbox/exhaust/clutch mods anyways.



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