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Someone put coolant in my 04 F7's oil!
- Please Help.
started by MacAdam86
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January 14th 2009 at 7:27 AM
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MacAdam86
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I barrowed my snowmobile to a buddy and his girlfriend added coolant to the oil! Then she drove it and I think the motor might have seized. She said it was riding fine when everything shut down. No loud noise it just stopped. They tried to restart it but the pull cord won’t budge. It’s a 04 cat F7 EFI but I have no idea what happened or what to do. Help.
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January 14th 2009 at 7:36 AM
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westman995
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Quote originally posted by MacAdam86
I barrowed my snowmobile to a buddy and his girlfriend added coolant to the oil! Then she drove it and I think the motor might have seized. She said it was riding fine when everything shut down. No loud noise it just stopped. They tried to restart it but the pull cord won’t budge. It’s a 04 cat F7 EFI but I have no idea what happened or what to do. Help.
Holy sh*t that sucks!! Umm i hate to say this but i think your gona need an engine rebuild.... Time for the buddy and his girl to get there money out....
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January 14th 2009 at 7:38 AM
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Jerkyking
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I agree it sounds like the motor seized. Oil is heavyier than the coolant and most likely ran fine until the oil was used and it got to the coolant level. Hopefull you can get away with new pistions, rings and cyclinders.
What were the terms of the loan?
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January 14th 2009 at 7:40 AM
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MacAdam86
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I just got it used this year at great price and in great shape. I've only put 500 miles on it. I'm gona kill that b*tch
Well it doesn't matter they don't have the money to pay for parts. I gona have to eat the cost and chalk this one up to Experience.
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January 14th 2009 at 8:15 AM
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zxkid
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Do they have jobs?, time to set up a payment plan with them, or a advance on there c/c. Why would they add coolant anyways? Pull out the spark plugs and give it a pull see what comes out. Maybe the computer shut the sled down.
"To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid"
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January 14th 2009 at 11:20 AM
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ProjectRMK
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Quote originally posted by Jerkyking
I agree it sounds like the motor seized. Oil is heavyier than the coolant and most likely ran fine until the oil was used and it got to the coolant level.
Actually, no...
When mixed together and allowed to stand, water molecules tend to
coalesce with themselves. Likewise, for the oil molecules. Since the water has a greater density than oil, the water settles to
the bottom leaving the oil on top.
It sucked water right away. It only got what oil was in the lines.
Boise, Idaho
USA
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January 14th 2009 at 11:39 AM
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MacAdam86
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So everyone agrees that them motor is seized. So...now what?
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January 14th 2009 at 11:56 AM
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srx_600
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srx_600 if its gonna be this warm i would rather have it be summer...
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Pull the head off and give it a look, probably the only thing you can do at this point. You cant turn the primary over either can you? If not i would say just pull the head and give it a look to see how bad it is.
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January 14th 2009 at 11:58 AM
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MacAdam86
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Quote originally posted by srx_600
Pull the head off and give it a look, probably the only thing you can do at this point. You cant turn the primary over either can you? If not i would say just pull the head and give it a look to see how bad it is.
It's not moving at all.....I guess I got some work to do.
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January 14th 2009 at 3:01 PM
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polaris91
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i almost guarentee the crank is done too they will only last about 4 miles without oil
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January 14th 2009 at 5:58 PM
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VTPolar
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Quote originally posted by MacAdam86
I just got it used this year at great price and in great shape. I've only put 500 miles on it. I'm gona kill that b*tch
Well it doesn't matter they don't have the money to pay for parts. I gona have to eat the cost and chalk this one up to Experience.
I know it is upsetting but I would refrain from making threats like that above. I am pretty sure you are only venting steam but in this day and age.....
Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope repairs are as simple as possible. Cheers.
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January 14th 2009 at 6:06 PM
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440_jag
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wow im sorry for you. they should give you some money for what happened to it. hope it wasnt any thing too major.
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January 14th 2009 at 8:23 PM
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shortstop20
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Make them pay for it, no excuses.
The motor will need to be completely redone most likely. Crank bearings/seals, pistons, rings, etc., etc.
2009 Ski-Doo Summit XP 800 154" X package - Quick Clickers, Between the Lines Designs Ice Scratchers, Tunnel & Rail Stiffeners
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January 14th 2009 at 8:39 PM
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Metallica19991
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Pour some oil down each cylinder and let the oil sit for like 10 mins and then see if you can pull it over. Its possible that it just has a "light" seize. Try that and see where it goes
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January 14th 2009 at 8:50 PM
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skidoodoo800
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to get it un-seized i would put a little diesel down the cylinders if the oil dosent work and if that dosent work try coca cola that will get her un-seized.
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January 14th 2009 at 10:45 PM
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pudamobile
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^I use Marvel's Mystery Oil...works wonders...try that first.
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January 15th 2009 at 1:30 AM
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shortstop20
I NEED SNOW!!!!
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That won't do the bearings in the bottom end of the motor any good if they're already cooked. Fix it the correct way and save money down the road.
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January 15th 2009 at 5:17 AM
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MacAdam86
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Ok...so I pulled it apart. It only seized one pistion and I had to junk that jug. So I got a new jug, 2 new pistions and plugs. Drained all the coolant from the oil tank, the lines and the pump. Everything else seems perfect. It cost me 560 bucks total. Tonight I'm gona put it back together and hope thats the end of it.
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January 15th 2009 at 5:55 AM
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2002ZR800
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Quote originally posted by MacAdam86
Ok...so I pulled it apart. It only seized one pistion and I had to junk that jug. So I got a new jug, 2 new pistions and plugs. Drained all the coolant from the oil tank, the lines and the pump. Everything else seems perfect. It cost me 560 bucks total. Tonight I'm gona put it back together and hope thats the end of it.
Wow that was quick. Glad to see you did not loose much ride time. Hope the rest of your season goes smoooothly.
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January 15th 2009 at 7:01 AM
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zxkid
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^^^agree, that was superfast, best of luck to you, hope it runs good for ya.
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January 15th 2009 at 8:54 AM
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MJay
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Good to hear you should be up and running soon. Is your friend gonna dump his gf for screwing you like that?
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