broken.....again! - venting started by yamaha1235
	January 24th 2009 at 8:54 PM Post #1
	yamaha1235 Junior Member 349 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 26th 2007 Location: rhinetown, wisconsin, USA
	i bought a 2007 phazer fx with 400 miles last year for 4500 dollars. last year i got about 2000 miles in on it and then something poped and it wouldnt go up hills or over 7000 rpms(or like 15 mph)so i brought it in to my local dealer,and find out that my whole secondary,A-arm bracket,spindles,spindle mounts,and one of my rear shocks are all broke.this would have cost me $2500 if warentee wouldnt have covered it. so that took me out for the rest of the season. this year i get about 2 weeks into riding and my chain starts "ratcheting" so i turn my secondary to see how loose my chain is,it turns about a quarter of a full revolution! so i tighten it and go out and ride for about 5 minutes when i hear it ratcheting again,i find out that my chain,bearings,and sprockets are totally shot. so this has made me totally lose any intrest in snowmobiling.im selling that POS and getting a car. ****LOOKING FOR A 450 FMF PIPE PM ME WITH OFFERS****** 2007 Yamaha Phazer FX www.yamaha-motor.com Rating: -1 Quick Edit Edit Topic

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	January 25th 2009 at 1:09 PM Post #2
	steve Another Devoted FunMaster 579 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 11th 2001 Location: New York Current Sled: 04 Pro XR 800
	Or, you could sell it and get a Polaris...... my brain hurts past to present: 71 AC Lynx, 2000 340 Deluxe, 2001 Edge X 600, 2002 Pro X 440 fan, 2003 Pro X 600, 2006 MXZ 550X and now a 2004 Pro XR 800 Rating: +2 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 25th 2009 at 1:13 PM Post #3
	ridingthe600edge sleds are all polished up and waiting for snow!!! 566 Posts Group: Members Member Since: December 12th 2008 Location: Lowell, In Current Sled: 2001 600 edge/2009 600 IQ 2008-2009 Miles: 1200 done 2009-2010 Miles: 2=yard!
	get a polaris and this won't happen anymore!!!!!! LOL 2001 600 edge X almond spring on primary with 60gm wieghts, s&s rumble pack, gutted air box 6" woodys doolys carbides,196 woodys 1 1/4" studs 2009 600 IQ shift all stock still a virgin!! not for much longer Rating: +2 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 25th 2009 at 1:47 PM Post #4
	440_jag 450 horse ditch bannger 1488 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 30th 2007 Location: Galesville, wisconsin, USA Current Sled: 2002 zr 500 cce 2008-2009 Miles: 500
	think you got a lemon. dont turn you back on snowmobiling, you just got a problem sled. 2002 Zr 500 CCE D&D pipe ported polished y 6 inch riser Acerbis Handguards Chrome winshield Pro-glider Rack Rsi pad Ripped graphics Fox snow pro shocks clickers Rating: +1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 25th 2009 at 1:48 PM Post #5
	FoxRacer13 Sledaholic #13 132 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 28th 2008 Location: Dexter, Maine, USA Current Sled: 1991 Polaris Indy 500 2008-2009 Miles: 550
	Polaris all the way. 1991 Polaris Indy 500. Rating: +2 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 25th 2009 at 3:03 PM Post #6
	GeFeldz Average Member 667 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 27th 2003 Location: Luleå, Norrbotten, Sweden Current Sled: Yamaha RXWarrior 2004
	Yamaha sleds are usually very reliable machines, i agree with the lemon theory. Unless you're a pro freestyle rider who's ridden the crap out of it, you should talk to your dealer and see what your options are. The sled shouldn't go kaboom every year. Ah, the wonders of nature... Too bad they're blurred when i go past them! =) Rating: +1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 25th 2009 at 3:54 PM  [ Modified January 25th 2009 at 3:55 PM ] Post #7
	07Phazer Junior Member 336 Posts Group: Members Member Since: March 15th 2006 Location: Waukesha, WI, USA Current Sled: 2007 Yamaha Phazer 2008-2009 Miles: 400
	Man, I wish the Polaris I used to have was problem free...... I've spent quite a bit of time over at TY reading up on Phazers for the last 2 years, and I don't recall ever hearing of such major system failure, especially one right after the other. I'd agree that it seems like you've got a lemon on your hands. Work with your dealer, and see what they can get Yamaha to do for you. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 25th 2009 at 10:38 PM Post #8
	mattiemo New Member 54 Posts Group: Members Member Since: December 17th 2003
	ya sounds like you got a lemon. $4500 sounds like a deal for a one year old sled. he may have had issues when he sold it. but dont give up i have a 92 440 (polaris) that has had minimual problems. pick another sled and your view will change. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 25th 2009 at 10:45 PM Post #9
	Hughes_097 Average Member 581 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 10th 2008 Location: Poland, New York, USA Current Sled: 06 Rev Adrenaline 2008-2009 Miles: 648
	Quote originally posted by steve Or, you could sell it and get a Polaris...... sir you desevre a beer. Rating: +2 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 25th 2009 at 11:40 PM Post #10
	Polaristhewayout Rider of sleds 1008 Posts Group: Members Member Since: November 25th 2008 Location: Webster, South Dakota Current Sled: 02 pro-x 440, Indy 500 2008-2009 Miles: 100
	geta polaris... yamaha should stick to makin pianos Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 26th 2009 at 12:22 PM Post #11
	myvertxcape Bring It, Don't Sing It! myvertxcape flu sucks azz. Updated Thursday at 8:00 PM 2640 Posts Group: Members Member Since: July 10th 2005 Location: Kotlik, AK, USA Current Sled: '07/8 600RMK 144's 2008-2009 Miles: 6200
	Don't let the door hit you in the a.... '08 600RMK 144" 6565 miles SLP single pipe/can, intake kit, footwell vents, Clutching my own shockwell intake vent, VMI rack, backrest '07 600RMK 144" 2725 miles SLP can, VMI rack! Footwell vents RAW chassis tunnel bag for sale, fits RMK's and Switchbacks. $80 new, $60 shipped within US(looks like new)http://www.snowmobilefanatics.com/forum/...splay.aspx Rating: -1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 26th 2009 at 8:49 PM Post #12
	steve Another Devoted FunMaster 579 Posts Group: Members Member Since: October 11th 2001 Location: New York Current Sled: 04 Pro XR 800
	Quote originally posted by Hughes_097 Quote originally posted by steve Or, you could sell it and get a Polaris...... sir you desevre a beer. I love beer. my brain hurts past to present: 71 AC Lynx, 2000 340 Deluxe, 2001 Edge X 600, 2002 Pro X 440 fan, 2003 Pro X 600, 2006 MXZ 550X and now a 2004 Pro XR 800 Rating: +1 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 26th 2009 at 9:01 PM Post #13
	PrtclMn001 Doin' the things a particle can... 272 Posts Group: Members Member Since: January 6th 2009 Location: Oneida, NY Current Sled: '09 Arctic Cat T500
	Beer FTW And +1 to what was said earlier: sounds like you got a sled that just isn't interested in running correctly. As with any manufactured mechanical device, there is always the chance of this happening. Don't let it ruin a whole sport for you. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 26th 2009 at 11:51 PM Post #14
	Boersy 2 stroke cold smoke bitch! 644 Posts Group: Members Member Since: November 28th 2006 Location: Alberta, Canada Current Sled: 04 MXZX With a 05 800 HO
	well yammi i see your lemon and raise you mine this is all this winter for the record . 2 shocks 1000.. 1 A-arm 400 drive cogs500 top end 700new chaincase 250 2 new headlights 20 BBBBRRRRAAAAAAAAAPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!! Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 26th 2009 at 11:52 PM  [ Modified January 27th 2009 at 12:00 AM ] Post #15
	The_Mad_Warrior Gate Attendant The_Mad_Warrior is a laid off bum. Updated Wednesday at 9:59 PM 1465 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 2nd 2006 Location: Madawaska, Ontario, Canada Current Sled: 1997 MXZ 670
	Think of it this way (once you fix EVERY part in it....then...well it will break again. lol I am not that hype up on owning a sled either good for ice fishing though) ps we all have these problems, sleds are work...you know like owning a child...only a kid cant carry you threw snow. If you cant fix it with duct tape, tylnol, or band aids your screwed. Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 27th 2009 at 12:04 AM Post #16
	Boersy 2 stroke cold smoke bitch! 644 Posts Group: Members Member Since: November 28th 2006 Location: Alberta, Canada Current Sled: 04 MXZX With a 05 800 HO
	and another set of rails 100 BBBBRRRRAAAAAAAAAPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!! Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 27th 2009 at 9:35 AM Post #17
	DALEKOVEN Junior Member 106 Posts Group: Members Member Since: February 16th 2004 Location: BRIGHTON, MI, USA
	[quote=originally posted by yamaha1235] i bought a 2007 phazer fx with 400 miles last year for 4500 dollars. last year i got about 2000 miles in on it and then something poped and it wouldnt go up hills or over 7000 rpms(or like 15 mph)so i brought it in to my local dealer,and find out that my whole secondary,A-arm bracket,spindles,spindle mounts,and one of my rear shocks are all broke.this would have cost me $2500 if warentee wouldnt have covered it. so that took me out for the rest of the season. this year i get about 2 weeks into riding and my chain starts "ratcheting" so i turn my secondary to see how loose my chain is,it turns about a quarter of a full revolution! so i tighten it and go out and ride for about 5 minutes when i hear it ratcheting again,i find out that my chain,bearings,and sprockets are totally shot. so this has made me totally lose any intrest in snowmobiling.im selling that POS and getting a car. Being in the business more than 25 yrs has led me to one conclusion. 90% of sled failures are maintenance related. You said you rode it 2000 miles. Did you change chaincase oil? If the chain is not an auto tightening system, it needs to be adjusted regularly. Sleds are constant work, new or used. Any type of playtoy is work. Why warranty covered A-Arms, spindles or shocks is beyond me as these seem to be abuse issues. Jumping, racing and crashing are not warranty. Please don't take this wrong, I have no idea the whole story, so what caused these failures you have not told me, but suspension breakage sounds like really rough riding. Again, maintenance is crucial. Inspection of the sled after every ride is a must so you can catch these things before they multiply into giant problems. And I don't care who makes the sled, they ALL break. I'm sorry you hate sledding. Try racing cars, then you will hate those also, Dale Koven DR.DALE Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit

	January 27th 2009 at 6:54 PM Post #18
	Boersy 2 stroke cold smoke bitch! 644 Posts Group: Members Member Since: November 28th 2006 Location: Alberta, Canada Current Sled: 04 MXZX With a 05 800 HO
	true .. this sport is the worst sport to be in ..for maintenance... think about it the sled is in every element .. warms days... corrosion, bearing surounding by water at all times... if you like to save money .. get a street bike... or a road runner BBBBRRRRAAAAAAAAAPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!! Rating: 0 Quick Edit Full Edit