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Maintaining the Indy - Some basic questions about my '89 Indy 400 started by PULLaris400
February 7th 2009 at 4:30 PM
 
igadget56
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There is no insert. If you can't get it out you have to replace the
whole drive shaft. It sucks, I had to do it twice.




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February 9th 2009 at 8:31 AM
 
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The insert I'm talking about is Part no 77 on the drawing.

Indy 400 Drivetrain
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The Polaris number is 3280019 and should be able to be ordered by your Polaris dealer for less than $10.

If your taking the whole suspension out and bringing it into a warm area, I would suggest removing all the cross-shafts, cleaning them, and re-greasing them. If your fittings aren't taking grease, they probably haven't been greased for a while. I disassemble my suspensions down to the last bolt and washer usually every other year. It's amazing how much resistance builds up in those shafts even in that amount of time. Also, check all your idler wheel bearings. Replace any that are bad. These things are just a part of normal maintenance on a sled and will make it work much more trouble-free.




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February 9th 2009 at 4:05 PM
 
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Polaris has a very poor choice of words,that is not a bushing. That
is the speedo key that is broke off in the hole. If you can't get it
out you have to replace the drive shaft




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February 9th 2009 at 6:11 PM
 
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I believe that it is possible to remove or drill out this bushing, or insert and replace it with a new one that can be ordered and purchased from your local Polaris dealer. It is possible that some snowmobiles do not have a replaceable bushing in the driveshaft, but I do not believe that a '89 Indy 400 is one of those snowmobiles.







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February 10th 2009 at 4:00 PM
 
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There is no insert or bushing, part # 3280019 IS THE SPEEDO KEY. It goes into
a machined hole in the end of the drive shaft. If it breaks off and rusts tight
good luck getting it out. Call your Desaler and ask them what part# 3280019 is




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February 10th 2009 at 4:31 PM  [ Modified February 10th 2009 at 4:33 PM ]
 
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Part 71 on this drawing is the speedometer key that igadget is talking about. The Polaris number is 3280017.

89 hood parts
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Take a cruise around this site for more info:

http://parts.polarisind.com/Browse/Browse.asp




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February 14th 2009 at 4:36 PM
 
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Thanks for the site! Looks like an awesome resource.

Are all of these parts still available to the dealer - I'd be amazed if they could.




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February 16th 2009 at 9:37 AM
 
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I'd say most any mechanical part for your Indy is still available through Polaris.




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March 8th 2009 at 8:23 PM
 
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Bump, and update!

Things have come a long way, suspension is out and bearings are being replaced, and everything cleaned and regreased.

I took out the driveshaft, and can't figure out how to get that speedo bushing out....I got a new one at the dealer, but I'm stuck. Any ideas?




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March 9th 2009 at 9:54 AM
 
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I think the only way to get it out is to drill it out. If you have a new one, you should be able to choose the size of drill bit that will remove most of the bushing, but not harm the shaft. Then, use a pick or something similar to remove any remaining pieces of the bushing.

If you wouldn't mind, post some photos of the bushing. I think it would be helpful to others.




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April 24th 2009 at 5:53 PM  [ Modified April 24th 2009 at 5:56 PM ]
 
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Well, an update:

You won't believe how far things have come!

Things I've done:

1) New camoplast plastic skis/carbides.
I had to make my own bushings, brackets, and find my own hardware because I got a deal on them used off another sled. They are in like new condition, except for some scratches and normal light wear - probably used well under 1 season.

2) New, slightly used (no cracks/pullouts/lost lugs) campolast challenger with 191 woodys carbide studs in a v pattern with plastic backers.


3) Rebuilt suspension. Took it out, completely apart, all new bearings, replaced a few wheels, again made my own bushings when needed (some were gone altogether from rubbing!). My torsion springs weren't even resting where they were supposed to due to no maint. and lots of wear.

4) Sanded, fixed the cracks, and painted the hood. Replaced air box cover thing (busted to hell...) with my own plexiglass piece. I used fiberglass to fix the cracks from the inside, epoxy on the out.

5)Rewired still more stuff with melted wires, etc. I also used zip ties to attach them where brackets and holders were supposed to be.

6) Odds and ends - zip tie stitches on the bellypan, sanded and painted pipe, new pressure cap because of overheating issue, replaced some hoses here and there where needed, etc.

I spent 800 on the sled, 10 on the skis (yep...10 dollars), 250 for the track, and 200 or so rebuilding suspension and other junk. Other repairs cost nothing because I already had supplies.

Wow, a total of $1260 for a completely redone sled...(and I'll probably grab a new chain before next season). I'd say worth it to me. I did everything, so there's a sense of pride. I'm sure I could've gotten a newer or faster sled for that though.

I don't have any more pictures on this computer, but I'll upload some soon.

Oh! I almost forgot:

That driveshaft speedo hole is in fact a bushing. It's hardened steel, and the driveshaft is mild steel though, so drilling it out straight was much harder than I initially thought. I used a bone bit in a dremmel to drill out the rest of the broken off speedo key, and used progressively larger bits to drill it out to size. I had the replacement bushing, so at least I knew how big to drill the shaft. It may have been easier if I didn't try drilling it out normally first and knew the technique though.

I learned a hell of alot doing all this and never could have done it without the repair book.




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April 24th 2009 at 6:28 PM  [ Modified April 24th 2009 at 6:29 PM ]
 
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Nice work on the 400! The only thing I might have done differently is not have as many studs in the track. Those studs add a lot of weight, and the 400 isn't really powerful enough to require that many studs. Check out my 1990 in action:








1990 Indy 400 (Slightly modded with welded tunnel cracks and various used Indy parts from models throughout the 90's)
2006 Stihl Chainsaw
1980's Vintage Lawnboy Lawnmower
2005 Husqvarna Weed Whacker (It sucks to rewind the string, but that 31cc motor sure is torquey!)
2000 Polaris XCSP Edge 600 (1.5" Track, 22x40 gearing, Aaen exhaust, Student Driver pivot riser package)
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April 24th 2009 at 9:36 PM  [ Modified April 24th 2009 at 9:37 PM ]
 
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Yea...maybe so, but hey, you take what you can get I guess. I figured it would be doggy with the aggressive track, but I had a slick on there before (less than 1/8 inch lugs, mostly torn) and I was in serious need of traction. I could hardly make it up small slopes and always got buried in powder. I don't really care about top speed, I just want a fun trail machine with a sure grip. The skis and bearings helped the speed issue alot too, this thing has way more power than before.

On a side note...saw your signature with the power equip. in there too. I've got a 80s Stihl 011AV saw, and it's always taken a solid beating. That 06 will last longer than you have use for it, I'm sure.




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April 24th 2009 at 9:55 PM
 
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Well, it sounds like your new track is a real upgrade from what you had before. That sled will be tons of fun for you this coming season!

Concerning the chainsaw... yeah, the commercial grade saw that I have is really more than I'll ever need, but I hope I never have to replace it. I figured if I got a $99 disposable saw, I'd need to replace it every few years. With this one, it should last a lifetime.



1990 Indy 400 (Slightly modded with welded tunnel cracks and various used Indy parts from models throughout the 90's)
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2005 Husqvarna Weed Whacker (It sucks to rewind the string, but that 31cc motor sure is torquey!)
2000 Polaris XCSP Edge 600 (1.5" Track, 22x40 gearing, Aaen exhaust, Student Driver pivot riser package)
2008 RMK 600 144"

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April 28th 2009 at 10:23 AM
 
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Quote originally posted by PULLaris400


I learned a hell of alot doing all this


That's the deal. Good job. Have fun with that Indy.




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