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i think i bought the sled from HELL!
- 91 indy RXL 650 EFI
started by cdnstudman
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February 6th 2009 at 2:42 PM
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cdnstudman
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Member Since: January 25th 2009
Location: st. marys, ontario, Canada
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Hey guys and gals, I have posted on here before about this sled, and I seem to get it going for a few days, then she dies again. Well I have my $500 RXL that is a lot of fun when it runs, but more often than not it is a lawn ornament. I have good battery (new & tested), new fuel lines & filters, new battery ground cable, and so on. What happens is that I get no fuel at all right now, but sometimes the pump will go. If I direct power, the pump works, but no injectors. I can spray fuel in throttle bodies, and she fires up first pull until fuel burns off. When it is running like that, all lights/guages work, so I am not thinking anything in magneto. I can't get it to throw a code though, even unplugging TPS does not bring up anything, so it seems that the computer does not get power. I should mention that yesterday I unhooked the kill switch & speed control assurance wires, and she fired right up. I revved it up, was running great, shut it off to put everything back together, and then nothing. I took the airbox back off, disconnected with kill switch again, but still nothing. I have looked over every connection I see, and all seem good. I checked that I have power at pin 18 (R/Y wire) on the computer as it seems to be main power for fuel, and it is good. Strangely enough, when I went out this morning, first pull the fuel pump started going, but did not start, and now does not go again. Would anyone know a wire that I can direct connect power to that may wake the computer? I have switched the relays around, and I sure they are good, I get 2 clicks when I turn the key. I have tested in different spots to be sure i have ground where it should, and all seems good. I would assume it was computer, but then I would not imagine it would have started at all, so I am guessing bad power somewhere (thats why I ask to splice in power).
Any ideas on things to test would be great!
damn, i hope i get this running!
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February 6th 2009 at 3:13 PM
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mrholmquist
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Member Since: December 15th 2003
Location: cobourg, on, Canada
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Quote originally posted by cdnstudman
Hey guys and gals, I have posted on here before about this sled, and I seem to get it going for a few days, then she dies again. Well I have my $500 RXL that is a lot of fun when it runs, but more often than not it is a lawn ornament. I have good battery (new & tested), new fuel lines & filters, new battery ground cable, and so on. What happens is that I get no fuel at all right now, but sometimes the pump will go. If I direct power, the pump works, but no injectors. I can spray fuel in throttle bodies, and she fires up first pull until fuel burns off. When it is running like that, all lights/guages work, so I am not thinking anything in magneto. I can't get it to throw a code though, even unplugging TPS does not bring up anything, so it seems that the computer does not get power. I should mention that yesterday I unhooked the kill switch & speed control assurance wires, and she fired right up. I revved it up, was running great, shut it off to put everything back together, and then nothing. I took the airbox back off, disconnected with kill switch again, but still nothing. I have looked over every connection I see, and all seem good. I checked that I have power at pin 18 (R/Y wire) on the computer as it seems to be main power for fuel, and it is good. Strangely enough, when I went out this morning, first pull the fuel pump started going, but did not start, and now does not go again. Would anyone know a wire that I can direct connect power to that may wake the computer? I have switched the relays around, and I sure they are good, I get 2 clicks when I turn the key. I have tested in different spots to be sure i have ground where it should, and all seems good. I would assume it was computer, but then I would not imagine it would have started at all, so I am guessing bad power somewhere (thats why I ask to splice in power).
Any ideas on things to test would be great!
Did you go through and straighten out all the wiring issues you had back to the way the schematic I sent you. As recall there were a lot of problems in the harness due to the previous owner cutting and bypassing stuff.
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February 6th 2009 at 3:17 PM
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cdnstudman
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Member Since: January 25th 2009
Location: st. marys, ontario, Canada
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Quote originally posted by mrholmquist
Quote originally posted by cdnstudman
Hey guys and gals, I have posted on here before about this sled, and I seem to get it going for a few days, then she dies again. Well I have my $500 RXL that is a lot of fun when it runs, but more often than not it is a lawn ornament. I have good battery (new & tested), new fuel lines & filters, new battery ground cable, and so on. What happens is that I get no fuel at all right now, but sometimes the pump will go. If I direct power, the pump works, but no injectors. I can spray fuel in throttle bodies, and she fires up first pull until fuel burns off. When it is running like that, all lights/guages work, so I am not thinking anything in magneto. I can't get it to throw a code though, even unplugging TPS does not bring up anything, so it seems that the computer does not get power. I should mention that yesterday I unhooked the kill switch & speed control assurance wires, and she fired right up. I revved it up, was running great, shut it off to put everything back together, and then nothing. I took the airbox back off, disconnected with kill switch again, but still nothing. I have looked over every connection I see, and all seem good. I checked that I have power at pin 18 (R/Y wire) on the computer as it seems to be main power for fuel, and it is good. Strangely enough, when I went out this morning, first pull the fuel pump started going, but did not start, and now does not go again. Would anyone know a wire that I can direct connect power to that may wake the computer? I have switched the relays around, and I sure they are good, I get 2 clicks when I turn the key. I have tested in different spots to be sure i have ground where it should, and all seems good. I would assume it was computer, but then I would not imagine it would have started at all, so I am guessing bad power somewhere (thats why I ask to splice in power).
Any ideas on things to test would be great!
Did you go through and straighten out all the wiring issues you had back to the way the schematic I sent you. As recall there were a lot of problems in the harness due to the previous owner cutting and bypassing stuff.
Hi again, I still have not. My ignition is a little different setup. I would take a pic to post, but I can't seem to add pics on here. I have been trying different things with those wires, but no luck.
damn, i hope i get this running!
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February 6th 2009 at 3:43 PM
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tdiguy69
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204 Posts
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Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Huron Park, Ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 95 xcr 600
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Humm sometimes a carb is just better lol...maybe your computer isnt working right.
1995 Polaris xcr 600
Cobra windscreen (white with checkers)-----------Purple grills
Plastic skis (purple)----------------------------Coolant heater
Skid plate---------------------------------------DG Silencer Can
Hand and thumb warmer + visor--------------------2 Inch Bar Riser
Sportech headlight and tail light covers (purple)
Runing board trim (purple)
Studs (purple backers)
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February 6th 2009 at 4:00 PM
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Sports915
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Member Since: December 31st 2007
Location: Dalton, NH, USA
Current Sled: 92 RXL 650
2008-2009 Miles: 325
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If you are interested I have a complete wiring harness from a 92 RXL that you could have cheap. Might be easier than trying to restore yours back to spec. Let me know
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February 6th 2009 at 4:57 PM
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cdnstudman
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Location: st. marys, ontario, Canada
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well i decided to take out all the relays, just to be sure, they all show as good (passing current when powered), so at least i can rule that out.
i may be interested, how much would you be looking for (including shipping)? i am really wanting to keep the cost down as soon i may just rule this as a lost cause and cut my losses, sell for what i can (i have about $700 in it already).
damn, i hope i get this running!
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February 6th 2009 at 5:38 PM
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tdiguy69
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204 Posts
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Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Huron Park, Ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 95 xcr 600
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700 bux isnt really alot considering the market here....cant even get an enticer 250 for under that.
1995 Polaris xcr 600
Cobra windscreen (white with checkers)-----------Purple grills
Plastic skis (purple)----------------------------Coolant heater
Skid plate---------------------------------------DG Silencer Can
Hand and thumb warmer + visor--------------------2 Inch Bar Riser
Sportech headlight and tail light covers (purple)
Runing board trim (purple)
Studs (purple backers)
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February 6th 2009 at 5:42 PM
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cdnstudman
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Location: st. marys, ontario, Canada
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that's true, i really like it when it runs, but man i am getting cold out there working on it. i guess i would have more patience if i had a garage. i guess in worst case, i should be able to get my money back if i part it out, but i would rather ride it. my avatar is me on it just 3 days ago, damn i wanna do it again. 
damn, i hope i get this running!
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February 6th 2009 at 6:01 PM
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tdiguy69
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204 Posts
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Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Huron Park, Ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 95 xcr 600
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I hear yah mines getting fixed right now to...and there saying the snows gonna melt in our area soon...blows. I want to go out to lol i cant wait to get it fixed
1995 Polaris xcr 600
Cobra windscreen (white with checkers)-----------Purple grills
Plastic skis (purple)----------------------------Coolant heater
Skid plate---------------------------------------DG Silencer Can
Hand and thumb warmer + visor--------------------2 Inch Bar Riser
Sportech headlight and tail light covers (purple)
Runing board trim (purple)
Studs (purple backers)
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February 6th 2009 at 7:13 PM
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mrholmquist
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500 Posts
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Member Since: December 15th 2003
Location: cobourg, on, Canada
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Do yourself a HUGE favour and get the stuff from sports915. You will never have any good luck and be chasing one problem after another until all the wiring is straightened out. Getting the harness from him will make it a lot simpler
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February 6th 2009 at 7:19 PM
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cdnstudman
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Location: st. marys, ontario, Canada
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I am just working out the details on that with him now, so with any luck that will help. i think i will still play around with it in the meantime as i have nothing better to do,lol. so if anyone has any ideas on what to try until then, shoot me a message.
oh yeah, i had made a vid of the ol beast when it was running, if you wanna kill some time, you can watch on youtube.
damn, i hope i get this running!
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February 7th 2009 at 8:58 AM
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cdnstudman
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Location: st. marys, ontario, Canada
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Well, just wanted to update. I had a late night out in the cold testing wires. I have attached a schematic of my wiring system. All the coloured wires have been tested. I am sure CDI is good, based on my understanding that the sled won't run at all if it weren't (runs with gas poured in), but if i am wrong, someone please let me know. I have double checked, my ignition wires all go where they are supposed to. if anyone has ANY ideas, even if you think it may be dumb, please say it anyways, even a dumb little problem could be the one making it not work. I posted an ad on kijiji asking if any rxl owners in the area may let me test my comp on thier machine, so hopefully someone answers.
Thanks for the help thus far guys......
mike
 wiring diagram
damn, i hope i get this running!
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February 7th 2009 at 5:41 PM
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cdnstudman
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Location: st. marys, ontario, Canada
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hey all, i just wanted to thank you for your help, but it seems i have managed to solve this on my own. the ecu chip was not firmly in place. someone had messed around with it before (breaking 2 pins), so i tried pushing down on it, she fired up first pull. so to solve the problem for now i have used some 1/4" rubber on top of the chip, then the rubber block on the cover compress's it to get good contact with the broken pins.
not sure if this forum will ever help anyone else, but i guess you never know. thanks again, and happy sledding!
damn, i hope i get this running!
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February 7th 2009 at 7:16 PM
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skidoodoo800
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Member Since: November 11th 2008
Location: Perth, ON, Canada
Current Sled: mach z
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lol so you got it goin in time for the snow to deplete lol what a crappy week us ont people have in store
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February 7th 2009 at 7:34 PM
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tdiguy69
Junior Member
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204 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: November 25th 2008
Location: Huron Park, Ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 95 xcr 600
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amen ^^^^ this weather blows
1995 Polaris xcr 600
Cobra windscreen (white with checkers)-----------Purple grills
Plastic skis (purple)----------------------------Coolant heater
Skid plate---------------------------------------DG Silencer Can
Hand and thumb warmer + visor--------------------2 Inch Bar Riser
Sportech headlight and tail light covers (purple)
Runing board trim (purple)
Studs (purple backers)
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February 7th 2009 at 7:45 PM
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triple650
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Member Since: February 10th 2008
Location: Ramore, Ontario, Canada
Current Sled: 05 fusion 900
2008-2009 Miles: 1630
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unbeleivable, just checked the weather network, WTF 9 tuesday, 9 wensday 5 to 10 mm of rain,thursday 3, just when we get good pow perfect.
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February 7th 2009 at 8:02 PM
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cdnstudman
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Location: st. marys, ontario, Canada
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Well I was just happy to get it going..I went out rippen in the slushy snow which is still about a foot deep here in most spots. And I will probably go back out later too!! That really sucks for weather coming....oh well....get out and ride any and all that can!
damn, i hope i get this running!
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