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Major problem- piston, gasket, what?
- Overheats, clicking sound from engine
started by tdgbigfoot
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February 16th 2009 at 6:59 AM
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tdgbigfoot
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A couple of days ago, my 99 sks 700 twin started to overheat. THe temp light came on, and i heard a ticking sound coming from the engine. The faster i went, the faster the ticking went. I pulled the spark plugs, and they were super hot. THe anti-freeze is still three-quarters full. THe sled performs as good as normal also.
It was not all that warm out, and i was in semi-deep snow.
Please help me out, im pretty worried about this. What is the problem? What is this? What price are we talking about here? I just spent 350 dollars on the whole left front suspension- trailing arm, pinion arm, etc., so im kinda worried. Let me know everything you can!
thanks alot,
tdgbigfoot
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February 16th 2009 at 9:18 AM
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tdgbigfoot
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Cmon, guys, i really need some help!
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February 16th 2009 at 11:33 AM
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crazyzrt600
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Quote originally posted by tdgbigfoot
Cmon, guys, i really need some help!
you sure its your motor and not the clutch ticking.
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February 16th 2009 at 11:39 AM
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tdgbigfoot
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Not, really, i guess it could be the clutch, but would that make the temp light come on?
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February 19th 2009 at 12:07 PM
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tdgbigfoot
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2000 Indy Trail Touring 550, 1999 Indy SKS 700, 1996 Mach Z 780, 1994 Wildcat 700, 1991 Formula Plus, 1990 Safari LX, 1989 Indy 400, 1988 Tundra Skandic, 1987 Citation, 1986 Indy Trail 488, 198? Bravo
1969 Corvette 350
2000 Cheroekee - 4 1/2" lift, & other goodies
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February 20th 2009 at 8:51 PM
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is actually gettin hot out! an now im gettin really busy working! oh what fun!
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the temp light couldve been cause of the semi deep snow that you were in... and the clutch not working perfectly could make the engine run hot.
R.I.P. kyle rogers
Ride safe everyone!
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February 21st 2009 at 9:52 AM
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redwolf_92
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What do the plugs look like now? Is it still ticking? A friend of mine did this once, temp light came on, engine started knocking. He shut it down and after it cooled off it seemed to be ok. After that incident though, the sled overheated much easier than before, and he did eventually melt it down.
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March 4th 2009 at 1:02 PM
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tdgbigfoot
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No it still ticks, still overheats, and Get this
Me and my friend pulled that sled APART! nothing found- no clutch problems, pistons aare fine, cylinders fine-ARGH!!!!!!!!
I was told it could be the water pump, which would explain the overheating.
Yesterday,after we put it all back together, i drove it around, after ONE MINUTE OF RIDING, it started to overheat-light came on, and my ehaust pipe under the hood started to smoke a ton.
WHAT THE F*CK!!!!!
help me out guys, im kinda frustrated.
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March 4th 2009 at 3:59 PM
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steve13
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open the mag side of the engine where the starting cord enter, check the pump belt.
this belt control the oil pump and the water pump. You have to change it after 8000 miles.
if this belt is not working, big problem in perspective, because of the lack of oil in the engine.
this kind of dammage explain everything, the temp light and the clicing sound.
Steve
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March 5th 2009 at 7:52 AM
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tdgbigfoot
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Would the belt have to be loose, or what?
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March 5th 2009 at 11:41 AM
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steve13
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not the drive belt, the pump belt. don't have to be tight or loose, just has to be there. if the belt are broken you have a problem and it's the reason the temp light came on and you have a clicing sound, if not you could replace it if you have a lot of miles, but it's not the cause of your problem.
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March 5th 2009 at 12:37 PM
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tdgbigfoot
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Quote originally posted by steve13 not the drive belt, the pump belt. don't have to be tight or loose, just has to be there. if the belt are broken you have a problem and it's the reason the temp light came on and you have a clicing sound, if not you could replace it if you have a lot of miles, but it's not the cause of your problem. yeah, i meant that belt. Ok, ill take a look at that soon. If thats still on, does anyone have any other ideas? possibly the rings?
2000 Indy Trail Touring 550, 1999 Indy SKS 700, 1996 Mach Z 780, 1994 Wildcat 700, 1991 Formula Plus, 1990 Safari LX, 1989 Indy 400, 1988 Tundra Skandic, 1987 Citation, 1986 Indy Trail 488, 198? Bravo
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March 5th 2009 at 8:53 PM
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If its overheating, start to know if the coolant is moving in the engine. be sure that you water pump work great and check if you termostat is openning (if equipped). you can remove the thermostat and give another try.
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March 6th 2009 at 7:24 AM
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tdgbigfoot
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Don't know anything about a thermostat
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March 6th 2009 at 9:53 AM
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should be right on top of the engine between the cylinders ,just look up the parts diagram ,and sure enough there it was
mid Il alway's waiting for snow,moving north(way north)2001 thundercat 99xcr 800 97SPX ULTRA 96 zrt 600&800,92 doo plusX 92 v max 4 750
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March 6th 2009 at 11:39 AM
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tdgbigfoot
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So what should i do, remove that and see how it runs, or what?
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2000 Cheroekee - 4 1/2" lift, & other goodies
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March 9th 2009 at 8:37 PM
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tdgbigfoot
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ttt
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March 10th 2009 at 10:50 AM
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stormrider62033
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Yes remove it ,can also submerge it in a clear glass bowl put it on the stove ,put a candy thermometer in it and see if it opens after being heated up ,thats old school stuff
mid Il alway's waiting for snow,moving north(way north)2001 thundercat 99xcr 800 97SPX ULTRA 96 zrt 600&800,92 doo plusX 92 v max 4 750
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March 10th 2009 at 11:39 AM
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tdgbigfoot
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Quote originally posted by stormrider62033
Yes remove it ,can also submerge it in a clear glass bowl put it on the stove ,put a candy thermometer in it and see if it opens after being heated up ,thats old school stuff
Can you explain what you mean by open up? sorry, stupid questions i know
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March 24th 2009 at 10:13 PM
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tdgbigfoot
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Ok, is there any fresh ideas on my problem? Thermostat opens fine, runs absolutly fine, I start this sled right up first pull all the time, but i dont run it due to this problem
What the hell is wrong with my sled?
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March 24th 2009 at 10:20 PM
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belt broken? Pump broken?
No oil/water = clicking and overheating
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March 24th 2009 at 10:31 PM
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tdgbigfoot
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I checked it once, but im gonna check it again as soon as i get a chance, proabbly in a week. How do i tell if the pump is broken?
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