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Dragon blown up again
started by Polaris-Man
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February 22nd 2009 at 9:00 PM
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Polaris-Man
Mike Otis
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11900 Posts 
Group: Administrators
Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Letellier, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: '08 Dragon '07 Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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My buddy's '07 Dragon blew up again today, for the third time in just under 6000 miles.
We are pretty sure the mag side connecting rod broke, all the coolant ran out of the sled on the side of the trail. You can still move the clutch, the mag side piston is stuck at the top and looks like it's split in half. The spark plug is smashed shut. The PTO side piston still goes up and down. Sometimes you can turn the clutch in complete circles but sometimes something is jamming in there.
Luckily, it's still on warranty. I'd like to tear it apart to see what is all wrecked, but no can do. I think he'll take it to the dealer tomorrow.
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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February 22nd 2009 at 9:36 PM
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Hughes_097
Average Member
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581 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: October 10th 2008
Location: Poland, New York, USA
Current Sled: 06 Rev Adrenaline
2008-2009 Miles: 648
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February 22nd 2009 at 10:10 PM
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1SethW
Im not Judging... I'm just sayin
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132 Posts 
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Member Since: January 15th 2009
Location: Wahkon, Minnesota, USA
Current Sled: 2002 Edge X 700
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sounds like a bent crank if it keeps blowing up!!
Thanks,
Seth W
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February 22nd 2009 at 10:27 PM
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Hutch_XLT
Weekend Warrior
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133 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 15th 2004
Location: Lake County, Illinois, USA
Current Sled: 1995 Polaris XLT
2008-2009 Miles: 200
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3 times in 6000 miles that sucks. I don't believe Polaris ever really got that 700 cfi dialed in. At Least it's still under warranty and its not the beginning of the season. Best of luck.
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February 22nd 2009 at 10:29 PM
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will_5
A.T.A.C.
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752 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: May 20th 2008
Location: Northwest Alaska, USA
Current Sled: 2003 F7
2008-2009 Miles: 1000
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Must be a hell of a warranty!
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February 23rd 2009 at 6:42 AM
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BISSHYS REPAIR
dragon tammer
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1197 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: February 21st 2004
Location: Kelvington, SK, Canada
Current Sled: 09 dragon 07 600 iq
2008-2009 Miles: 750
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my buddys just blew afew weeks ago that cfi just is not right
holder to the pin turn left. (dale jr)
09 dragon is here
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February 23rd 2009 at 7:20 AM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 6th 2009
Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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this is like the 4th person in the past 2 weeks on here who has a poo over 700 that has blown up. thank god i knew this before i get a new one. i was gonna get a 800 IQ but NOPE.... 600 for me  . as for your buddy, that sucks, but hes making good use of that warrenty. sorry for the luck man.
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February 23rd 2009 at 8:27 AM
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MNSLEDNECK56308
Senior Member
MNSLEDNECK56308 done working on trailer for the night!
Updated Thursday at 10:44 PM
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2710 Posts 
Group: Moderators
Member Since: January 12th 2004
Location: ALEXANDRIA, MN, USA
2008-2009 Miles: 1043
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trade it in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cody's????
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February 23rd 2009 at 8:31 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 5 hours ago
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12582 Posts 
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Quote originally posted by mmiller491
this is like the 4th person in the past 2 weeks on here who has a poo over 700 that has blown up. thank god i knew this before i get a new one. i was gonna get a 800 IQ but NOPE.... 600 for me . as for your buddy, that sucks, but hes making good use of that warrenty. sorry for the luck man.
So 2 700's blow up so there all bad.
Post what happened Pman. Courious
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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February 23rd 2009 at 8:49 AM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 6th 2009
Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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xcr440, we all know the 700s and 800s have had problems for awhile now. the 800s more so then the rest.
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February 23rd 2009 at 9:03 AM
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Polaris-Man
Mike Otis
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11900 Posts
Group: Administrators
Member Since: April 10th 2001
Location: Letellier, Manitoba, Canada
Current Sled: '08 Dragon '07 Switchback
2008-2009 Miles: 1200
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Quote originally posted by MNSLEDNECK56308
trade it in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cody's????
Yessir, it was Cody's.
Well, he is gonna get it fixed and finish the year off with it, but I have a feeling we won't be seeing much of the '07 Dragon next year...
Every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. That means every day you see me, that's the worst day of my life.
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February 23rd 2009 at 9:11 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 5 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Quote originally posted by mmiller491
xcr440, we all know the 700s and 800s have had problems for awhile now. the 800s more so then the rest.
Yeah, they have there issues. Just as everyother manuactor. Some run, some don't.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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February 23rd 2009 at 9:15 AM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 6th 2009
Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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yeah but when you see al this information on here saying that there not a reliable as they should be, then you go out and buy a brand new 800 dragon... and after 1000 miles it blows up on you... who do you blame?
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February 23rd 2009 at 9:17 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 5 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Just because 3 or 4 guys have issues doesn't make all the sleds bad.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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February 23rd 2009 at 9:29 AM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 6th 2009
Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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but its not just 3 or 4 guys! look i get what your saying, just cause some fail doesnt mean they all will. but when buying a sled, id like to buy something that is PROVEN to be reliable. and im sorry but the larger bore polaris's just arent that right now. id love to rip on a 800 poo and not worry about it breaking down if i run over 7000rpm. thatd be awesome and they would sell like crazy. but the bigger sled polaris are making just arent as reliable as alot of us hoped. i dont really want to fight about this, your right, all manufacturers have their problems, but when you know a manufacturer is having a problem with something, and they go ahead and purchase it and take a risk, then that default that everyone is complaining about happens to you... im sorry but that person deserves it to happen. im not trying to be cynical but you learn from others.
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February 23rd 2009 at 9:57 AM
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MasterSkitelz
Short on Cash
MasterSkitelz punched out an oil seal, now to get it back in.
Updated Friday at 10:17 AM
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198 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: January 26th 2009
Location: Neosho, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 1996 Polaris XCR 600 SP
2008-2009 Miles: 145
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The larger the cylinders the more weight thats moving up and down 7000 times a minute. thats hard on a crankshaft and I can see why the larger the engine the more prone it is to breakdown. But, the good part is that its under warranty, at least you don't have to pay for it, or fix it.
Sleds:
1996 Polaris XCR 600 SP
1979 Arctic Cat Kitty Cat
1978 Arctic Cat El Tigre 5000
1976 Arctic Cat Pantera 5000 F/A
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February 23rd 2009 at 10:10 AM
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stormrider62033
wally
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4729 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 25th 2004
Location: Gillespie, IL, USA
Current Sled: 99xcr 800
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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back in the late 80's early 90's had many ,large twins pop ,we always blamed it on the long stroke ,high RPMS ,and not being built heavy enough
mid Il alway's waiting for snow,moving north(way north)2001 thundercat 99xcr 800 97SPX ULTRA 96 zrt 600&800,92 doo plusX 92 v max 4 750
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February 23rd 2009 at 11:28 AM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 6th 2009
Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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Quote originally posted by MasterSkitelz
The larger the cylinders the more weight thats moving up and down 7000 times a minute. thats hard on a crankshaft and I can see why the larger the engine the more prone it is to breakdown. But, the good part is that its under warranty, at least you don't have to pay for it, or fix it.
thats why i like triples, you get the power, and the reliability. in the 10 years ive had my SRX ive blown it up once and that was going 95 @ 8000 rpms for like 8 miles. i was young and stupid. the problem is that you gain some of weight with the third cyinder, but not such a significant amount that makes it pointless to have it. i think they should bring triples back for the larger cc engines. nothing sounds better than a tiple that is piped, its like an old muscle car . but dont get me wrong, twins are amazing too. they both have their advantages and their disadvatages.
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February 23rd 2009 at 11:40 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 5 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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really????
Quote originally posted by mmiller491
Quote originally posted by MasterSkitelz
The larger the cylinders the more weight thats moving up and down 7000 times a minute. thats hard on a crankshaft and I can see why the larger the engine the more prone it is to breakdown. But, the good part is that its under warranty, at least you don't have to pay for it, or fix it.
thats why i like triples, you get the power, and the reliability. in the 10 years ive had my SRX ive blown it up once and that was going 95 @ 8000 rpms for like 8 miles. i was young and stupid. the problem is that you gain A TON of weight with the third cyinder, but not such a significant amount that makes it pointless to have it. i think they should bring triples back for the larger cc engines. nothing sounds better than a tiple that is piped, its like an old muscle car . but dont get me wrong, twins are amazing too. they both have their advantages and their disadvatages.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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February 23rd 2009 at 11:45 AM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 6th 2009
Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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Quote originally posted by xcr440
really????
Quote originally posted by mmiller491
Quote originally posted by MasterSkitelz
The larger the cylinders the more weight thats moving up and down 7000 times a minute. thats hard on a crankshaft and I can see why the larger the engine the more prone it is to breakdown. But, the good part is that its under warranty, at least you don't have to pay for it, or fix it.
thats why i like triples, you get the power, and the reliability. in the 10 years ive had my SRX ive blown it up once and that was going 95 @ 8000 rpms for like 8 miles. i was young and stupid. the problem is that you gain A TON of weight with the third cyinder, but not such a significant amount that makes it pointless to have it. i think they should bring triples back for the larger cc engines. nothing sounds better than a tiple that is piped, its like an old muscle car . but dont get me wrong, twins are amazing too. they both have their advantages and their disadvatages.
i dont wanna go off topic in this thread, so i started my twin vs triple thread to have this disagreement there.
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February 23rd 2009 at 11:53 AM
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xcr440
Sundowners Trail Coordinator
xcr440 icefish's because having feeling in your fingertips is overrated.
Updated Over 5 hours ago
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12582 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 1st 2003
Location: St.Germain/Edgerton, Wisconsin, USA
Current Sled: 03prox700/97xcr440
2008-2009 Miles: 610
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Whats to disagree on? You said the added cylinder added a ton of weight. Picture proves your statement wrong.
a good beer drinker isnt a picky beer drinker
Loggers.... Working their ass off so you can wipe yours!
"Steep ground is when your cutting a notch and notice a mountain goat looking at you like you are crazy." - Hexan
woodbooga: (WOOD-boog-ah), n. regional dialect, common to areas of New Hampshire and Maine including the towns of Ossipee, Alton, Farmington, Acton, and Lebanon; one who attempts to obtain free firewood to fuel woodburning appliances in an effort to mitigate expenses related to home heating with fossil fuels. Frequently used as a term of derision by non-woodburners who mock the presence of loose bark and other wood waste in the beds of their pickup trucks.
2003 Pro x 700 almond/blue,10-66 black/red team 719 T-flow, 440 mains
1997 xcr440 my clutch kit, 380 mains,T-flow
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February 23rd 2009 at 11:55 AM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 6th 2009
Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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my apologies, i meant to say you dont add a ton of weight. i didnt notice i said that.
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February 23rd 2009 at 5:11 PM
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Polarisfreeeek
thinks the IQr is the best sled ever made!!!
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Group: Members
Member Since: February 4th 2008
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If Polaris got that 800 twin running right and reliable, they'd have an unstoppable motor!!!!
POLARIS-DOMINATION!!!
Go Big or Go Home!
Wide f#!kin' open!
When in doubt, floor it!
01 Pro-X 440
92 Indy 440
92 XCR 440
Brother-95 ZRT 800 136" slightly modded
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February 23rd 2009 at 5:23 PM
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Jerkyking
The voice of Common Sense...
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714 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: December 15th 2007
Location: Saint Ignace, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 Indy Trail
2008-2009 Miles: 331
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Quote originally posted by mmiller491
my apologies, i meant to say you dont add a ton of weight. i didnt notice i said that.
How can you be "Where every the snow is, Michigan, USA" ?
1997 Indy Trail Touring
1998 Indy Trail
2007 Honda Rancher ES 4x4
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February 23rd 2009 at 6:33 PM
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mmiller491
Adrenaline Junkie
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688 Posts
Group: Members
Member Since: February 6th 2009
Location: Where ever the snow is, Michigan, USA
Current Sled: 1998 SRX 700 Triple
2008-2009 Miles: 500
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.... how bout you ask me that personally and not go off topic in the thread...? once again a typo, meant to say where ever the snow is, Michigan. I try to be where there is snow... not saying im a nomad, but i try and find snow... thanks though bud.
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